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[Monsieur B]

M informs Bond what has happened, and embarrased at how stupid she was to send 001 out and not 007 to stop the deal.

Wow, that makes it look like 007 the only agent worth having on Her Majesty's Secret Service. Not only would that overfeed Bond's ego (which he sure doesn't need), but that also would make all of the other 00s feel like crap if they ever found out. Then they would all pick on 007 and call him names. Not very nice at all. Or it just seems a little out of M's character to outright say that 007 is better than any other agent in her employ. And M would never call him/herself stupid. Maybe careless, but certainly not stupid.

On the whole, your synopsis seems to be decent contemporization on the story. Although I don't quite like the fact that the present Iran situation seems to be a big part of your plot. I would much prefer it to be simply mentioned in a line of dialogue rather than actually shown in the PTS.

One last thing I would like to point out (as I feel like I'm castigating your idea which surely is not the case). I don't belive that Iran would turn to China -- or even a Chinese -- for help in hiding their nuclear arms; rogue colonel or otherwise. I think this should be changed. Maybe you could mention in briefing that Colonel Sun and his renegades stole a nuclear weapon from an Iranian cache? It doesn't even have to be a nuclear weapon. Whatever happened to good old fashioned semtex, or gelignite, or even C4?

Okay, that's basically it. If I came off as belittling or anything of the sort, it was not intended to be so. Be that as it may, I encourage you to go to work with this idea; make a screenplay as you've done with “From A View To A Kill”. You could work this out to be a good treatment. It still may be just fan fiction but it's certainly of a different medium.

Whew.

[manfromjapan]

Why COLONEL SUN wouldn't work as a movie -

We have already had a Colonel Sun in DAD
The story is too political and out of date
The torture scene is too gruesome
Greece was used as a location in FYEO
The whole working with a foreign power has been done already - TSWLM,TND
'M' was kidnapped in TWINE
There is little action in the novel

[Gri007]

We have already had a Colonel Sun in DAD - Colonel Tan Sun Moon, It isn't exaclty Colonal Sun is it.

The story is too political and out of date - You update and change the plot a little

The torture scene is too gruesome - The torture scene in CR is a little cringe worthy, surly

Greece was used as a location in FYEO - Jamiaca was used in Dr No and LALD

The whole working with a foreign power has been done already - TSWLM,TND -One reason why you change the plot a little

'M' was kidnapped in TWINE - She can get kidnapped again

There is little action in the novel - Second reason to change the story a little.

All you need 'ManfromJapan' is some one like Dick Maibaum or Bruce Feirstein to work on the story, and you'll get a perfect Bond film.

[DamnCoffee]

Cool Gri007 very good answers

[Bond Maniac]

There is little action in the novel

Well the action that do happen are far more less interesting that many Gardner books and Cololonel Sun works better that way. The characters are flashed out and the movie flows at a excelente pace.

M' was kidnapped in TWINE

He was kidnapped here first so actually TWINE was the copy and it is a horrible movie so i discard it and wouldn

[Gri007]

I've been thinking about the plot for CS. What about mixing up some plots from Per Fine Ounce.

Probably get gold bicycle chains involved and Diamonds.

[Bond Maniac]

What about mixing up some plots from Per Fine Ounce.

Probably get gold bicycle chains involved and Diamonds.

I don

[Gri007]

I'm hoping to get started on a screen treatment of CS soon. I thought the some story line from Brokenclaw could work well with Colonel Sun. They are both set in the far east. It may be an idea.

What do you lot think,

And thank you Monseuir B, It is you who has encouraged me to adapt CS asap. Have you read my screenplay for 'From A View To A Kill'

[RazorBlade]

There were rumors floating around fast and furious in media in the early 1990s that Timothy Dalton would be appearing in a movie version of COLONEL SUN.

It's movie posters might have looked like this:

http://007art.free.f...ls/colonel1.htm

http://007art.free.f...ls/colonel2.htm

I'm sorry but that second poster looks gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But no one would go see that movie.

I'm hoping to get started on a screen treatment of CS soon. I thought the some story line from Brokenclaw could work well with Colonel Sun. They are both set in the far east. It may be an idea.

What do you lot think,

And thank you Monseuir B, It is you who has encouraged me to adapt CS asap. Have you read my screenplay for 'From A View To A Kill'

I hesitate to say anything as I don't know you Gri007 but as a screenwriter myself, who has seen friends become frustrated and burned out adapting material they didn't own the rights to, unless you do own the rights you might keep this project as one you simply do for the pleasure and what you learn from it.

If I stepped on any toes, I'm a bad dancer. Plus I've stepped on plenty of toes. Okay, no more jokes. -N- Merry Christmas

[Gri007]

I hesitate to say anything as I don't know you Gri007 but as a screenwriter myself, who has seen friends become frustrated and burned out adapting material they didn't own the rights to, unless you do own the rights you might keep this project as one you simply do for the pleasure and what you learn from it.

If I stepped on any toes, I'm a bad dancer. Plus I've stepped on plenty of toes. Okay, no more jokes. -N- Merry Christmas

It is for pure pleasure. Suppose a bit of fan fiction might be the word.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I feel Colonel Sun might work well either for Craig or possibly as an introduction to a new bond far into the futurte.


with that said Daltion's Colonel sun would of been amazing.

[Skudor]

The only problem is that they've already used the M kidnapping angle - and since that's really the gist of the story there isn't really much left, I think.

Having said that... they had Bond being tortured in a chair in The World is not Enough, which didn't stop them being faithful to Casino Royale, the kidnapping of M is of a whole different scale in CS, the locations could be changed (far east?, Stockholm's archipelago?) and the story beefed up in general.

[quantumofsolace]

Leave this as a great book . I don't need a film of this.

[Mr Twilight]

I think it's a waste to not film CS. Someone mentioned that most things already been used here and there, but with small changes in story, locations and so on, it will work great as a film. I'm would be happy to see...

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI'S EON PRODUCTION
presents
DANIEL CRAIG
as IAN FLEMING'S
JAMES BOND
in
COLONEL SUN
...

[sharpshooter]

Colonel Sun is one of the best continuation Bond novels written. There is some good material in there. Although, I feel that it should be left alone regarding any film treatment. Ideas have been taken from it and any updates/changes made for a film adaption are taking away what made it what it is.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I'm getting Colonel Sun hopefully for easter (i'll let you all know how and if it works out) and if it's ok with everyone i'm going to read it and try and come up with my idea for adaptation.


Though i doubt it will be good still I figure i'd givie it a shot.

[Dr. Noah]

I think CS would be a natural for Craig and Dench, in the relationship they established in CR.