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[Athena007]

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[center] "Young Bond Back to top #2 Johnboy007 Johnboy007 Commander CMG Veterans 6990 posts Location:Washington, D.C. Posted 27 January 2005 - 10:01 PM Pure dumbluck that it was found. Listened to the audio snippet that they had. Can't say that fishing is really all that exciting to watch, nonetheless listen to being described. Back to top #3 marktmurphy marktmurphy Commander Veterans 9055 posts Location:London Posted 27 January 2005 - 10:03 PM Seems decently written. Back to top #4 spynovelfan spynovelfan Commander CMG Discharged 5855 posts Posted 27 January 2005 - 10:40 PM I'm pretty impressed by the marketing so far. Someone seems to have actually put some thought in, which makes a change - the clock ticking down to the publication date in the form of a Bond-like bomb to defuse is fairly obvious stuff, but I'm amazed they've actually gone to all this effort. After years of neglect of the continuation novels, it comes as a bit of a shock to see something so well organised. Back to top #5 Simon Simon Commander Veterans 5884 posts Location:England Posted 27 January 2005 - 10:51 PM Poor old Benson, was there ever a website for his work? Amazing that there is faith in this when one would/might have thought there was greater scope for success with the adult thrillers. Still what has this web cost, Back to top #6 Athena007 Athena007 Commander RNVR Commanding Officers 12936 posts Location:H O L L Y W O O D Posted 27 January 2005 - 11:48 PM I wonder what's going to be on the site once they pass the "teaser" stage? Back to top #7 zencat zencat Commander GCMG Commanding Officers 25814 posts Location:Studio City, CA Posted 28 January 2005 - 12:59 AM Wow! How nice to come home, log onto CBn, and be completely surprised by a main page story! And a SilverFin story at that! Great find Johnboy. It's a good lookig site. Looks like this is the start of Young Bondmaina. Here's another tease. I'm currently reading SilverFin...I'll post my review on the day of the UK release (March 3). Don't ask me anything more. Back to top #8 deth deth Lt. Commander Veterans 2651 posts Location:Berlin, Germany Posted 28 January 2005 - 03:29 AM Looks like this is the start of Young Bondmaina. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! ........may I ask if you like it so far? Edited by Athena007, 28 January 2005 - 04:19 AM. Back to top #9 Tarl_Cabot Tarl_Cabot Commander Veterans 10505 posts Location:The Galaxy of Pleasure Posted 28 January 2005 - 03:34 AM Yeah we need a young Bond tv show. It'll have a boy hood age Blofeld as his best buddy who eventually will turn to the dark side becuase Bond stole his girl away from him by using his superior good looks, sex appeal and sociall adeptness; Blofeld will naturally have to destroy humanity...unless they pay reparations.And it'll have "cool" music everyweek announced at the end of the show. "Tonights episode featured the music of CREED". Back to top #10 Jim Jim Commander RNVR Commanding Officers 14266 posts Location:Oxfordshire Posted 28 January 2005 - 08:04 AM Obviously in the absence of having read it, but when one reads "George Hellebore, Lord Randolph Hellebore" does anyone else get a "Malfoys" feeling? I may turn out to be entirely wrong in that respect. But I can't help me feelings, I can't I tells yer. Back to top #11 Bon-san Bon-san Commander RNR Veterans Reserve 4124 posts Location:USA Posted 28 January 2005 - 12:00 PM Well, this looks like it's going to be a fairly pedestrian affair. This Randolph Hellebore smacks of a cross between a John Gardner villain and Mike Myers' Dr. Evil, in other words, rather lame. Back to top #12 Turn Turn Commander Veterans 6837 posts Location:Ohio Posted 28 January 2005 - 01:35 PM Well, this looks like it's going to be a fairly pedestrian affair.  This Randolph Hellebore smacks of a cross between a John Gardner villain and Mike Myers' Dr. Evil, in other words, rather lame. I was half-heartedly ready to accept this series for what it was until going to that site. As soon as I read the Hellebores description it reminded me of Draco and Lucius Mallfoy (spelling) of the Harry Potter series as Jim said. But in looking at it further, this whole things sounds like Harry Potter - an orphan with special talents goes to a prestigious private school where he runs afoul of a rich jerk and his rude dad, and becomes friends with a lanky boy (don't know if he has red hair but his name is Red, close enough) and a spirited girl. They then go on adventures where his talents will be tested. Will it be long before Bond finds out one of the villains is responsible for causing his parents' climbing accident and his influence will haunt Bond in future books? All we need is a whomping willow and we're all set. Back to top #13 hrabb04 hrabb04 Lt. Commander Veterans 1706 posts Posted 28 January 2005 - 02:17 PM A few years from now, E will do another one of those top 100 what were they thinking specials. Young Bond will be on there near the top of the list. Back to top #14 Joyce Carrington Joyce Carrington Commander CMG Veterans 4631 posts Location:Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posted 28 January 2005 - 04:30 PM Obviously in the absence of having read it, but when one reads "George Hellebore, Lord Randolph Hellebore" does anyone else get a "Malfoys" feeling? Oh, absolutely. But perhaps it is also because you could draw an Eton - Hogwarts parallel. Back to top #15 spynovelfan spynovelfan Commander CMG Discharged 5855 posts Posted 28 January 2005 - 04:44 PM I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s. Back to top #16 marktmurphy marktmurphy Commander Veterans 9055 posts Location:London Posted 28 January 2005 - 05:50 PM I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s. Whereas Fleming's villains with giant squid and mountaintop lairs were perfectly realistic? So what if it turns out to be a bit derivative? The concept already is (hallo Alex Rider) and heaven knows the film James Bond isn't exactly the only action hero out there- all it needs is a bit of style and a fun adventure plot, together with decent writing (which it seems to have judging by the extract- improvement on Benson, anyway) and that's all you need isn't it? Back to top #17 Qwerty Qwerty Commander RNVR Commanding Officers 85605 posts Location:New York / Pennsylvania Posted 28 January 2005 - 06:01 PM It's a good lookig site. Looks like this is the start of Young Bondmaina. Quite so! Glad to see them really getting publicity out for this. Back to top #18 Jim Jim Commander RNVR Commanding Officers 14266 posts Location:Oxfordshire Posted 28 January 2005 - 06:02 PM I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s. Fairly common to have them there - sons of the wealthy, sons of princes etc. Unless he's a Red Indian [am I allowed to say that any more?]. Significantly less likely. Back to top #19 Loyal Terrior Loyal Terrior Sub-Lieutenant Crew 126 posts Posted 28 January 2005 - 06:52 PM This is very cool! Nice find Johnboy007. I'll buy the book. Back to top #20 marktmurphy marktmurphy Commander Veterans 9055 posts Location:London Posted 28 January 2005 - 07:31 PM I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s. Fairly common to have them there - sons of the wealthy, sons of princes etc. Unless he's a Red Indian [am I allowed to say that any more?]. Significantly less likely. Good point now you mention it, Jim. Doesn't pretty much every drama set in an English public school feature at least one Indian boy prince? Back to top #21 Grubozaboyschikov Grubozaboyschikov Sub-Lieutenant Crew 207 posts Location:SMERSH HQ Posted 29 January 2005 - 09:38 AM Personally, this piece about teeming eels and an injured finger seems a bit repellent to me. Besides, I'd really like to know who designed this book cover? Does this person realise that this 'thing' resembles some strange hybrid between a decapitated spermatozoon and a tapeworm! Sorry for being too explicit. I doubt I'm gonna buy this book. Edited by Grubozaboyschikov, 29 January 2005 - 09:41 AM. Back to top #22 marktmurphy marktmurphy Commander Veterans 9055 posts Location:London Posted 29 January 2005 - 10:36 AM What do you mean by 'repellant'? Is the subject matter too strong for you? What? I hate the fact that so many of you that have already decided to hate this- you're James Bond fans but you can't even take one little change to your character? You cry out for more Bond books and demand them to be bestsellers (usually trotting out the 'warm blooded hetreosexuals' line), but you want one written in crayon by that Benson scribbler more than one which actually stands a chance of being successful written by a proven thriller writer? Yes, it may turn out to be rubbish, but why don't you actually try the thing before you moan about it? For god's sake- the guy above is actually judging this book by its cover. You lot don't deserve new Bond. Back to top #23 Grubozaboyschikov Grubozaboyschikov Sub-Lieutenant Crew 207 posts Location:SMERSH HQ Posted 29 January 2005 - 11:40 AM I mean IMHO the excerpt is not that presentable. As well as the design of the cover. Back to top #24 Bon-san Bon-san Commander RNR Veterans Reserve 4124 posts Location:USA Posted 29 January 2005 - 01:53 PM What do you mean by 'repellant'? Is the subject matter too strong for you? What? I hate the fact that so many of you that have already decided to hate this- you're James Bond fans but you can't even take one little change to your character? You cry out for more Bond books and demand them to be bestsellers (usually trotting out the 'warm blooded hetreosexuals' line), but you want one written in crayon by that Benson scribbler more than one which actually stands a chance of being successful written by a proven thriller writer? Yes, it may turn out to be rubbish, but why don't you actually try the thing before you moan about it? For god's sake- the guy above is actually judging this book by its cover. You lot don't deserve new Bond. Always a hoot to be criticized for one's criticism. Back to top #25 David Schofield David Schofield Commander Discharged 3026 posts Posted 29 January 2005 - 03:30 PM What do you mean by 'repellant'? Is the subject matter too strong for you? What? I hate the fact that so many of you that have already decided to hate this- you're James Bond fans but you can't even take one little change to your character? You cry out for more Bond books and demand them to be bestsellers (usually trotting out the 'warm blooded hetreosexuals' line), but you want one written in crayon by that Benson scribbler more than one which actually stands a chance of being successful written by a proven thriller writer? Yes, it may turn out to be rubbish, but why don't you actually try the thing before you moan about it? For god's sake- the guy above is actually judging this book by its cover. You lot don't deserve new Bond. Absolutely. I am quite happy to give the thing a try, PARTICULARLY after Benson. However, my first concern based upon what's been released (other than the fact that James Bond seems to go fishing - gee wisz, golly gosh!) is that the quote from the book on the website say "James did this", "James said that". I would have prefered even from a teen (and one who would be fighting in WW2 only a few short years later) a darker, more mysterious "Bond said..."Bond did...". Back to top #26 marktmurphy marktmurphy Commander Veterans 9055 posts Location:London Posted 29 January 2005 - 07:42 PM Always a hoot to be criticized for one's criticism. I think any criticism of something you haven't actually seen or had any experience of is a very valid thing to criticise, don't you? What are you actually judging Silverfin on? An extract of some fishing (because there's never been a detailed description of a leisure activity in a Bond novel before, has there?) a vague description of the concept and a book cover. Is that really enough to damn or praise it? Back to top #27 marktmurphy marktmurphy Commander Veterans 9055 posts Location:London Posted 29 January 2005 - 07:45 PM I mean IMHO the excerpt is not that presentable. As well as the design of the cover. An excerpt isn't 'presentable'? What does that mean? It doesn't look good enough? Or do you mean it isn't finished yet? What definition of the word 'presentable' are you using? If you're abusing his grip of the english language I think you'd better look in your own back yard first. Back to top #28 zencat zencat Commander GCMG Commanding Officers 25814 posts Location:Studio City, CA Posted 29 January 2005 - 07:56 PM Hey, marktmurphy. I agree with some of your points, but why not try and pull back a bit from the overly confrontational approach? I'd like people to still be around CBn when SilverFin comes out. Then we can direct our "passion" (negative or positive) at the book instead of each other. (And I'm sorry if this is overly confrontational. I just seem to be weirdly sensitive to this sort of thing today. Could be just me...) Back to top #29 DLibrasnow DLibrasnow Commander Enlisting 16568 posts Location:Washington D.C.. USA Posted 30 January 2005 - 02:51 AM A few years from now, E will do another one of those top 100 what were they thinking specials.  Young Bond will be on there near the top of the list. You really think that Silverfin will make that much of a ripple hrabb? Back to top #30 Righty007 Righty007 Discharged. Veterans Reserve 13051 posts Location:Station CLE - Cleveland Posted 30 January 2005 - 03:59 AM I'm really excited for this book! It's going to be awesome! *ducks* Back to top Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next Back to Charlie Higson (2005 - 2009) Reply to quoted posts     Clear

[Johnboy007]

Pure dumbluck that it was found.

Listened to the audio snippet that they had. Can't say that fishing is really all that exciting to watch, nonetheless listen to being described.

[marktmurphy]

Seems decently written.

[spynovelfan]

I'm pretty impressed by the marketing so far. Someone seems to have actually put some thought in, which makes a change - the clock ticking down to the publication date in the form of a Bond-like bomb to defuse is fairly obvious stuff, but I'm amazed they've actually gone to all this effort. After years of neglect of the continuation novels, it comes as a bit of a shock to see something so well organised.

[Simon]

Poor old Benson, was there ever a website for his work?

Amazing that there is faith in this when one would/might have thought there was greater scope for success with the adult thrillers.

Still what has this web cost,

[Athena007]

I wonder what's going to be on the site once they pass the "teaser" stage?

[zencat]

Wow!

How nice to come home, log onto CBn, and be completely surprised by a main page story! And a SilverFin story at that! Great find Johnboy.

It's a good lookig site. Looks like this is the start of Young Bondmaina.

Here's another tease. I'm currently reading SilverFin...I'll post my review on the day of the UK release (March 3).

Don't ask me anything more.

[deth]

Looks like this is the start of Young Bondmaina.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!


........may I ask if you like it so far?

Edited by Athena007, 28 January 2005 - 04:19 AM.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Yeah we need a young Bond tv show. It'll have a boy hood age Blofeld as his best buddy who eventually will turn to the dark side becuase Bond stole his girl away from him by using his superior good looks, sex appeal and sociall adeptness; Blofeld will naturally have to destroy humanity...unless they pay reparations.And it'll have "cool" music everyweek announced at the end of the show. "Tonights episode featured the music of CREED".

[Jim]

Obviously in the absence of having read it, but when one reads "George Hellebore, Lord Randolph Hellebore" does anyone else get a "Malfoys" feeling? I may turn out to be entirely wrong in that respect. But I can't help me feelings, I can't I tells yer.

[Bon-san]

Well, this looks like it's going to be a fairly pedestrian affair. This Randolph Hellebore smacks of a cross between a John Gardner villain and Mike Myers' Dr. Evil, in other words, rather lame.

[Turn]

Well, this looks like it's going to be a fairly pedestrian affair.  This Randolph Hellebore smacks of a cross between a John Gardner villain and Mike Myers' Dr. Evil, in other words, rather lame.

I was half-heartedly ready to accept this series for what it was until going to that site.

As soon as I read the Hellebores description it reminded me of Draco and Lucius Mallfoy (spelling) of the Harry Potter series as Jim said. But in looking at it further, this whole things sounds like Harry Potter - an orphan with special talents goes to a prestigious private school where he runs afoul of a rich jerk and his rude dad, and becomes friends with a lanky boy (don't know if he has red hair but his name is Red, close enough) and a spirited girl. They then go on adventures where his talents will be tested.

Will it be long before Bond finds out one of the villains is responsible for causing his parents' climbing accident and his influence will haunt Bond in future books? All we need is a whomping willow and we're all set.

[hrabb04]

A few years from now, E will do another one of those top 100 what were they thinking specials. Young Bond will be on there near the top of the list.

[Joyce Carrington]

Obviously in the absence of having read it, but when one reads "George Hellebore, Lord Randolph Hellebore" does anyone else get a "Malfoys" feeling?

Oh, absolutely. But perhaps it is also because you could draw an Eton - Hogwarts parallel.

[spynovelfan]

I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s.

[marktmurphy]

I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s.

Whereas Fleming's villains with giant squid and mountaintop lairs were perfectly realistic?

So what if it turns out to be a bit derivative? The concept already is (hallo Alex Rider) and heaven knows the film James Bond isn't exactly the only action hero out there- all it needs is a bit of style and a fun adventure plot, together with decent writing (which it seems to have judging by the extract- improvement on Benson, anyway) and that's all you need isn't it?

[Qwerty]

It's a good lookig site. Looks like this is the start of Young Bondmaina.

Quite so! Glad to see them really getting publicity out for this.

[Jim]

I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s.

Fairly common to have them there - sons of the wealthy, sons of princes etc.

Unless he's a Red Indian [am I allowed to say that any more?]. Significantly less likely.

[Loyal Terrior]

This is very cool! Nice find Johnboy007. I'll buy the book.

[marktmurphy]

I'd be interested to know what an American and an Indian were doing at Eton in the mid-30s.

Fairly common to have them there - sons of the wealthy, sons of princes etc.

Unless he's a Red Indian [am I allowed to say that any more?]. Significantly less likely.

Good point now you mention it, Jim. Doesn't pretty much every drama set in an English public school feature at least one Indian boy prince?

[Grubozaboyschikov]

Personally, this piece about teeming eels and an injured finger seems a bit repellent to me. Besides, I'd really like to know who designed this book cover? Does this person realise that this 'thing' resembles some strange hybrid between a decapitated spermatozoon and a tapeworm! Sorry for being too explicit. I doubt I'm gonna buy this book.

Edited by Grubozaboyschikov, 29 January 2005 - 09:41 AM.

[marktmurphy]

What do you mean by 'repellant'? Is the subject matter too strong for you? What?

I hate the fact that so many of you that have already decided to hate this- you're James Bond fans but you can't even take one little change to your character? You cry out for more Bond books and demand them to be bestsellers (usually trotting out the 'warm blooded hetreosexuals' line), but you want one written in crayon by that Benson scribbler more than one which actually stands a chance of being successful written by a proven thriller writer?
Yes, it may turn out to be rubbish, but why don't you actually try the thing before you moan about it? For god's sake- the guy above is actually judging this book by its cover. You lot don't deserve new Bond.

[Grubozaboyschikov]

I mean IMHO the excerpt is not that presentable. As well as the design of the cover.

[Bon-san]

What do you mean by 'repellant'? Is the subject matter too strong for you? What?

I hate the fact that so many of you that have already decided to hate this- you're James Bond fans but you can't even take one little change to your character? You cry out for more Bond books and demand them to be bestsellers (usually trotting out the 'warm blooded hetreosexuals' line), but you want one written in crayon by that Benson scribbler more than one which actually stands a chance of being successful written by a proven thriller writer?
Yes, it may turn out to be rubbish, but why don't you actually try the thing before you moan about it? For god's sake- the guy above is actually judging this book by its cover. You lot don't deserve new Bond.

Always a hoot to be criticized for one's criticism.

[David Schofield]

What do you mean by 'repellant'? Is the subject matter too strong for you? What?

I hate the fact that so many of you that have already decided to hate this- you're James Bond fans but you can't even take one little change to your character? You cry out for more Bond books and demand them to be bestsellers (usually trotting out the 'warm blooded hetreosexuals' line), but you want one written in crayon by that Benson scribbler more than one which actually stands a chance of being successful written by a proven thriller writer?
Yes, it may turn out to be rubbish, but why don't you actually try the thing before you moan about it? For god's sake- the guy above is actually judging this book by its cover. You lot don't deserve new Bond.

Absolutely. I am quite happy to give the thing a try, PARTICULARLY after Benson.

However, my first concern based upon what's been released (other than the fact that James Bond seems to go fishing - gee wisz, golly gosh!) is that the quote from the book on the website say "James did this", "James said that".

I would have prefered even from a teen (and one who would be fighting in WW2 only a few short years later) a darker, more mysterious "Bond said..."Bond did...".

[marktmurphy]

Always a hoot to be criticized for one's criticism.

I think any criticism of something you haven't actually seen or had any experience of is a very valid thing to criticise, don't you?

What are you actually judging Silverfin on? An extract of some fishing (because there's never been a detailed description of a leisure activity in a Bond novel before, has there?) a vague description of the concept and a book cover. Is that really enough to damn or praise it?

[marktmurphy]

I mean IMHO the excerpt is not that presentable. As well as the design of the cover.

An excerpt isn't 'presentable'? What does that mean? It doesn't look good enough? Or do you mean it isn't finished yet? What definition of the word 'presentable' are you using? If you're abusing his grip of the english language I think you'd better look in your own back yard first.

[zencat]

Hey, marktmurphy. I agree with some of your points, but why not try and pull back a bit from the overly confrontational approach? I'd like people to still be around CBn when SilverFin comes out. Then we can direct our "passion" (negative or positive) at the book instead of each other.

(And I'm sorry if this is overly confrontational. I just seem to be weirdly sensitive to this sort of thing today. Could be just me...)

[DLibrasnow]

A few years from now, E will do another one of those top 100 what were they thinking specials.  Young Bond will be on there near the top of the list.

You really think that Silverfin will make that much of a ripple hrabb?

[Righty007]

I'm really excited for this book! It's going to be awesome!

*ducks*