From Russia With Love
#1
Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:50 PM
I just tried to look at FRWL from another point of view
#2
Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:53 PM
#3
Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:55 PM
I mean stealing the Lector. Its more fantastic than surfing on ice, or going outerspace.Fantastic? Yes. When I first joined CBn in 2003, I hated From Russia With Love. Now I enjoy it. The most fantastic Bond film? No.
#4
Posted 06 August 2004 - 12:52 AM
See, Righty. You can change your opinion on a film. You'll be an NSNA fan in no time.Fantastic? Yes. When I first joined CBn in 2003, I hated From Russia With Love. Now I enjoy it. The most fantastic Bond film? No.
I also wasn't a big FRWL fan years ago, but over the last decade or so this film's stock has risen higher and higher. It's one of those films the cliche "They don't make them like that anymore" applies to.
You can have your Jaws and Oddjob henchmen. I still count Red Grant as the most frightening villain in the series.
#5
Posted 06 August 2004 - 02:59 AM
I agree YOLT. This is the is most fantastic. Realism should be the benefactor in the series, but I guess fantasy elements are the edge in the series, quite sadly. Bond films could never be as good as From Russia with Love.No I am not joking. FRWL is always been considered as the most realistic, the Bond film close to Fleming etc. However in todays world FRWL just seems like ultimate fantasy. In our 'new' world and especially in the new film sector, surfing, going to outer space, big explotions are all very usual things. But stealing the lector from the Russians? This is what I call fantasy.
I just tried to look at FRWL from another point of view
"It's the biggest, it's the best! It's Bond and beyond!"
#6
Posted 06 August 2004 - 03:02 AM
That's right! Never forgot Chris's original comments on From Russia With Love and then bam! "I like From Russia With Love!!"See, Righty. You can change your opinion on a film. You'll be an NSNA fan in no time.Fantastic? Yes. When I first joined CBn in 2003, I hated From Russia With Love. Now I enjoy it. The most fantastic Bond film? No.
#7
Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:00 AM
#8
Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:02 AM
Hmm, perhaps fantasy with the grounds of realism.No I am not joking. FRWL is always been considered as the most realistic, the Bond film close to Fleming etc. However in todays world FRWL just seems like ultimate fantasy. In our 'new' world and especially in the new film sector, surfing, going to outer space, big explotions are all very usual things. But stealing the lector from the Russians? This is what I call fantasy.
#9
Posted 06 August 2004 - 10:29 AM
Yes, I totally agree.I agree YOLT. This is the is most fantastic. Realism should be the benefactor in the series, but I guess fantasy elements are the edge in the series, quite sadly. Bond films could never be as good as From Russia with Love.No I am not joking. FRWL is always been considered as the most realistic, the Bond film close to Fleming etc. However in todays world FRWL just seems like ultimate fantasy. In our 'new' world and especially in the new film sector, surfing, going to outer space, big explotions are all very usual things. But stealing the lector from the Russians? This is what I call fantasy.
I just tried to look at FRWL from another point of view
"It's the biggest, it's the best! It's Bond and beyond!"
#10
Posted 06 August 2004 - 01:17 PM
#11
Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:11 PM
I WILL NEVER LIKE Never Say Never Again!See, Righty. You can change your opinion on a film. You'll be an NSNA fan in no time.Fantastic? Yes. When I first joined CBn in 2003, I hated From Russia With Love. Now I enjoy it. The most fantastic Bond film? No.
I also wasn't a big FRWL fan years ago, but over the last decade or so this film's stock has risen higher and higher. It's one of those films the cliche "They don't make them like that anymore" applies to.
You can have your Jaws and Oddjob henchmen. I still count Red Grant as the most frightening villain in the series.
#12
Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:19 PM
#13
Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:20 PM
It seems fantastic in todays world when there are all these other fantastic elements everywhere. But it does not back in 1963 when there was not the amount of fantasy, especially space themed events there are in movies currently?No I am not joking. FRWL is always been considered as the most realistic, the Bond film close to Fleming etc. However in todays world FRWL just seems like ultimate fantasy. In our 'new' world and especially in the new film sector, surfing, going to outer space, big explotions are all very usual things. But stealing the lector from the Russians? This is what I call fantasy.
I just tried to look at FRWL from another point of view
#14
Posted 06 August 2004 - 06:24 PM
#15
Posted 06 August 2004 - 06:53 PM
Always found that interesting. While it was one of the best scenes to take a note from, it doesn't even compare to the original in North by Northwest.I've always seen FRWL as more along the lines of "Alfred Hitchcock on steroids". The MacGuffin, the updated version of the crop dusting scene, the train stuff, etc.
#16
Posted 06 August 2004 - 06:56 PM
#17
Posted 06 August 2004 - 06:57 PM
Agreed, not something you'd ever see in a Bond film today, but it's low key and it works.Oh absolutely but it's still a cool scene.
#18
Posted 07 August 2004 - 01:36 PM
#19
Posted 07 August 2004 - 03:58 PM
and i know a lot of young folk dont like it because of its slow pace, lack of exsplosions, shoot em up and all the things we have today but righty has shown that some of the young are coming around and taking to this film and i am glad of that
#20
Posted 07 August 2004 - 05:27 PM
Steven Jay Rubin in his Bond Encyclopedia points out that From Russia With Love is probably one film that today's younger audience wouldn't appreciate. That is most likely true for some occasional fans, but for many of the young Bond fans on here, like myself, it seems to be a favorite.and i know a lot of young folk dont like it because of its slow pace, lack of exsplosions, shoot em up and all the things we have today but righty has shown that some of the young are coming around and taking to this film and i am glad of that
#21
Posted 07 August 2004 - 07:08 PM
#22
Posted 07 August 2004 - 07:33 PM
#23
Posted 08 August 2004 - 08:18 AM
#24
Posted 08 August 2004 - 02:05 PM
Exactly. I kept looking at that and wondering who or what was Blofeld. Didn't find out until the first time I saw You Only Live Twice.I always liked the question mark next to Blofeld's name in the closing credits.
#25
Posted 09 August 2004 - 07:15 PM
Never understood everyone's fascination with NbyNW ... I've watched it six or seven times over the last couple decades, and except for the superb score, it just doesn't ever really work for me. The crop dusting scene never seems cut right, with the plane crashing into the tanker just seeming like something from another movie.Always found that interesting. While it was one of the best scenes to take a note from, it doesn't even compare to the original in North by Northwest.I've always seen FRWL as more along the lines of "Alfred Hitchcock on steroids". The MacGuffin, the updated version of the crop dusting scene, the train stuff, etc.
I don't think Hitchcock could hold a candle to Orson Welles (I don't even think PSYCHO would exist w/o Welles' TOUCH OF EVIL to inspire Hitchcock), but I grant there are some terrific Hitchcock flicks out there (NOTORIOUS, SHADOW OF A DOUBT, REBECCA, and as I recall, SECRET AGENT and LADY VANISHES) ... even so, I'd take FRWL over NORTH anyday.
#26
Posted 16 August 2004 - 06:40 PM
It is a realistic film, but still it has the larger than life SPECTRE organization and its crew, I consider this film not only a 007 success, but also an amazing movie, regardless if you
#27
Posted 16 August 2004 - 06:59 PM
I think YOLT's been brainwashed by the Soviets...(stealing from Russia is fantasy! We will win the Cold War! )No I am not joking. FRWL is always been considered as the most realistic, the Bond film close to Fleming etc. However in todays world FRWL just seems like ultimate fantasy. In our 'new' world and especially in the new film sector, surfing, going to outer space, big explotions are all very usual things. But stealing the lector from the Russians? This is what I call fantasy.
I just tried to look at FRWL from another point of view
Seriously though, FRWL doesn't take place in our 'new' world. Intelligence isn't called what it is because of explosions and moonraker lasers. The plot of FRWL is hardly fantastic. SPECTRE offers something to Bond whom they wish to capture, and creates a defector to seduce and trick him, much like British intelligence dumped a body on a beach in France in WW2 laden with fake credentials and letters home to convince them that the misleading intelligence documents on his person were real. Romanova was the same concept, she seems genuine and brings a genuine lektor to lure Bond and MI6 into a trap.
Anyways, I still disagree. Espionage isn't walking around like Rambo in a tux. Now granted, someone launched an RPG at MI6's castle a few months ago. But I guess I missed that thing where a North Korean got gene therapy, posed as a British playboy and tried to blow up the South with his diamond powered laser satellite, was that on CNN recently? Yeah, that's not fantasy.
#28
Posted 16 August 2004 - 10:44 PM
#29
Posted 17 August 2004 - 07:22 AM
#30
Posted 17 August 2004 - 07:23 AM
It's fantasy, but it lacks the style that Bond films with fantasy had before. The Spy Who Loved Me for example. Die Another Day needed more focus on the plot.But I guess I missed that thing where a North Korean got gene therapy, posed as a British playboy and tried to blow up the South with his diamond powered laser satellite, was that on CNN recently? Yeah, that's not fantasy.