Saddam caught
#61
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:37 AM
#62
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:39 AM
Originally posted by Tarl_Cabot
I didn't see footage of Hitler at the concentration camps. :mad:
That's possibly correct, but we have paper documents pointing to his involvement with that. You're tagging something onto Saddam that you currently have no proof for.
You could probably try a lot of Western people on crimes similair to those on Dr Niles' list.
#63
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:43 AM
This is a good site to visit. It's not a BS site, which the net has plenty of. It offers some facts about the suffering of the Iraqis by Saddam.
http://www.indict.org.uk/index
#64
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:43 AM
#65
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:45 AM
Originally posted by Blue Eyes
That's possibly correct, but we have paper documents pointing to his involvement with that. You're tagging something onto Saddam that you currently have no proof for.
You could probably try a lot of Western people on crimes similair to those on Dr Niles' list.
There are criminals on every corner of the world but that doesn't mean Saddam's horrible crimes against humanity should be ignored.
#66
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:47 AM
Saddam had control of his country, even after defeat so I do pin the gassing on him Blue Eyes. But if your not satisfied with that then I'm sure we can find a whole laundry list of other offenses that merrit the trial and execution of Saddam Hussein.
#67
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:47 AM
Originally posted by booyeah_
Feeling bad for Saddam? Jail time? Are you confusing him with someone else? This guy didn't rob a bank, he butchered thousands and thousands of men, women and children. He's a monster that ranks up there with Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. It's easy to feel bad for him when its not your family members who are having their genitals cut off.
I don't see anyone condoning his actions, merely imploring that the US show restraint with this. The respective governments, governmental bodies and so on of Western powers have done enough over the years to already drag themselves down to Saddam's level. It's time they took the high road.
#68
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:49 AM
#69
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Tarl_Cabot
I'm sure we can find a whole laundry list of other offenses that merrit the trial and execution of Saddam Hussein.
Sure go right ahead, execute him, but you'll only be scum like him.
#70
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:53 AM
Originally posted by booyeah_
There are criminals on every corner of the world but that doesn't mean Saddam's horrible crimes against humanity should be ignored.
I don't recall every saying that they should be ignored.
#71
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:54 AM
but its like tom arnold in true lies 'the guy is a goddamn used car sales man, this **** just keeps getting better and better, well we gotta kill him thats a given.'
#72
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:58 AM
SH has involved the world not just the USA, so SH fate should be decided by UN or the Iraqi people. This is one time that the USA should not be 'gun-hoe'.
Merry Christmas,
Cheers,
Ian
#73
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:58 AM
Originally posted by MrDraco
I think if you widow of one of the men he killed or mother of a child he's order killed you'd fee a bit differently
I probably would. But then the law works on morals and rationale, not on emotions nor personal involvement.
#74
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:59 AM
And that is true(Castro pops to mind) but that statement has no relevance to Saddam's crimes, so I assumed you were trying to ignore his crimes or try to make them commonplace.
#75
Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:59 AM
"Poltical society exists for noble actions."
"well...all i'm saying is...what the ****s that mean?"
#76
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:00 AM
Maybe you should stop watching Bond films then because our hero kills the bad guys in case you weren't paying attention.
#77
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:01 AM
#78
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:02 AM
#79
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:04 AM
Cheers,
Ian
#80
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Bondian
Well if SH is going to be executed and displayed by the American's on the Disney Channel, your going to get even more enemy's I can tell you.
You'd need a channel that rates even better then that, Bush has an election to win. He's spending about $170 million on his campaign, there's a crime for you.
booyeah_
You posted "You could probably try a lot of Western people on crimes similair to those on Dr Niles' list."
And that is true(Castro pops to mind) but that statement has no relevance to Saddam's crimes, so I assumed you were trying to ignore his crimes or try to make them commonplace.
Yes it does have relevance. When Western governments choose to seek out their own people who act in their interest but commit such crimes, then they move closer to having the right to charge and exectue foreigners on such crimes. Until then they'll remain pathetic hypocrits.
#81
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:05 AM
#82
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:07 AM
Cheers,
Ian
#83
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Tarl_Cabot
Maybe you should stop watching Bond films then because our hero kills the bad guys in case you weren't paying attention.
Almost clever, if it weren't for the fact that you've confused fantasty with real life. But a nice attempt at an arguement all the same, I'm sure you're quite proud.
And if you don't want your tax to pay for his incarceration... well its paid for everything else so you have to see it through. He's your president.
#84
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:08 AM
#85
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:09 AM
How about a new channel?, the Bush and Blair Show.....BB.
Cheers,
Ian
#86
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:12 AM
Originally posted by Blue Eyes
Almost clever, if it weren't for the fact that you've confused fantasty with real life. But a nice attempt at an arguement all the same, I'm sure you're quite proud.
And if you don't want your tax to pay for his incarceration... well its paid for everything else so you have to see it through. He's your president.
are you a vet? Do you know any vets? Chances are they may have killed enemy combantants during their service. Are those veterans scum? Were the jurors, prosecutors and judges at Nuremberg, who sentenced eleven Nazi war criminals to death, scum?
#87
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:15 AM
Originally posted by Blue Eyes
I don't see anyone condoning his actions, merely imploring that the US show restraint with this.
Well I still would like to hear why some people actually feel sorry for this monster.
#88
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:16 AM
I was teasing about the Bond films...sorry, I thought we were having a polite disagreement. I don't wanna make enmies with the A Team.
#89
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:19 AM
Originally posted by Blue Eyes
He's spending about $170 million on his campaign, there's a crime for you.
1)Where did you get that figure?
2)What crime would he be committing?
Just curious.
#90
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:21 AM
Believe me mate I don't think that Daniel was being insulting. I would suggest that we all calm down now and let what's to be, be.
I just hope that ( although just announced on tv that SH will be treated as a war criminal ) he get's his 'just desert's', but is treated in a 'humane' manner. He HAS done some atrocious things but we live in a democracy and he should be able to have his say ( although information would be more appopriate ).
Cheers Mate,
Ian