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[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by Erik Rupp
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My first choice for Bond 20 is for them to FINALLY do a real version of "Casino Royale!" 2002 is th 50th anniversary of the publishing of the CR novel - the first James Bond novel from Ian Fleming!

My second choice would be to have EON revive S.P.E.C.T.R.E. and to cast PATRICK STEWART as Blofeld! (Charles Gray couldn't have been the REAL Blofeld!)

[rubixcub]

[quote]Blue Eyes (23 Mar, 2001 02:07 a.m.):
Shatterhand was a rumoured name for the villain in TND, it later became Carver but Shatterhand was never considered. In fact the name considered was 'Harmsway'.

Harmsway... subtle. Well, still, it'd be nice if they did use Shatterhand as a villain name & a title.

[Jacques Nexus]

[quote][b]Blue Eyes But I would also love to see Harmsway as a villains name!!! I think it was quite good.

Oh and while I'm thinking of it. In one of the scripts for TWINE Renard had a hawk that he had tamed and he could get it to attack people and pluck their eyes. Sounds weird but I have a feeling we'll see it return in a future film. Even maybe BOnd 20 ![/quote
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I agree, HARMSWAY is a great name for a villain. Why did EON change it to Carver ?. HARMSWAY could also make an interesting title. Renard's hawk could possibly appear in future...but somebody better tell EON it's been done before in a 1967 spy movie called ARABESQUE starring Gregory Peck & Sophia Loren; it's a really good film.

[rubixcub]

My only wish for Bond 20? Make it MEMORABLE. That's why Bond films have survived so long, because they're memorable. It'd be nice to have a villain with a memorable name for a change. Whitaker, Sanchez, and Carver aren't remembered by name even today, while Goldfinger and Dr. No are remembered vividly. That's why I keep touting "Shatterhand" as a good title for Bond 20. It's memorable, comes from Fleming (Blofeld's alias in YOLT, just the novel; the story and the alias got dropped in the screen version), and would make a great Bond villain name. They could take Guntram Shatterhand and make him into a new person. What do you think?

[rubixcub]

My only wish for Bond 20? Make it MEMORABLE. That's why Bond films have survived so long, because they're memorable. It'd be nice to have a villain with a memorable name for a change. Whitaker, Sanchez, and Carver aren't remembered by name even today, while Goldfinger and Dr. No are remembered vividly. That's why I keep touting "Shatterhand" as a good title for Bond 20. It's memorable, comes from Fleming (Blofeld's alias in YOLT, just the novel; the story and the alias got dropped in the screen version), and would make a great Bond villain name. They could take Guntram Shatterhand and make him into a new person. Not only that, but this next Bond film is Brosnan's fourth, and the fourth film each Bond actor does has a one-word title (Thunderball, Moonraker) and is larger than life, so Shatterhand as a Bond extravaganza would certainly be appropriate. What do you think about all of these ideas? I really want to know.

[Blue Eyes]

I think the biggest problem personally with Shatterhand is it's not a cool motto thingo like TWINE and TND - both which could be considered inspirational. But that's not to say they can't use it - I just like the inspirational element

MY BIGGEST CONCERN is that Purvis And Wade will bring back their usual element: some form of a nuclear weapon stolen....

God they better not do that!

[mrmoon]

Going on past record 20 should be the biggest. The fact its the 20th and the 40th anniversary at the same time plus, both Thunderball(Seans biggest) and Moonraker (Rogers Biggest) were both their 4th Film. So it looks promising and I don't think we'll be disappointed.

[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by CDS
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Yeah I agree, The Union should be introduced to the film series. And my choice for Le Gerant: Patrick Stewart.

[M_Balje]

Blue Eyes (04 Feb, 2001 11:03 a.m.):
Original Message by Damien Ristori
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Personally I would love to see Joe Don Baker portray another villain. I thought he did a great job as Brad Whitaker The Living Daylights.

He did his bet considering the amount of time he got on screen and was sertainly much more believable than Blofeld or Drax who were fantasy villains.

Others worthy of becoming a Bond villain

1 - Martin Kemp - Eastenders
2 - Gareth Marks - Jean Daniel from Bugs

Not possible Joe Donbaker playing in bond 20 the role of Jack wade his return of the movie's Goldeneye en Tomorrow never dies

[rubixcub]

Blue Eyes (24 Mar, 2001 11:42 p.m.):
"I said it somewhere in another post but I dont' know if I'd be entierely comfortable with Shatterhand as the title but I'd love to see it as a villains name.."

Why not a title?  I was suspicious when it was left off the title poll...

"Oh and while I'm thinking of it. In one of the scripts for TWINE Renard had a hawk that he had tamed and he could get it to attack people and pluck their eyes."

Yeah, I remember reading about that.  I was surprised it got dropped from the film.  Would've been memorable!  Pity the producers (real control freaks as I hear it) didn't think of it that way.  In fact, it seems they haven't been thinking of it that way since the new producers started (Onatopp and GoldenEye's teaser excepted).

"Sounds weird but I have a feeling we'll see it return in a future film. Even maybe BOnd 20 !"

Let's hope! It would've worked for Renard (and made him much more menacing). Perhaps was deemed too close to Oddjob's bowler trick. I dunno. It'd be nice to see it reappear, either way.

About your uncomfortability w/SHATTERHAND as a title, maybe this will help; you'll have to imagine the guy's voice who does these trailers:

"Pierce Brosnan, as James Bond 007, in the 20th James Bond action adventure, SHATTERHAND! [end of theme music, from DR. NO]

More later, maybe in fan trailers if I can figure out how to make one.

Dave

[Evil Doctor Cheese]

Once Brosnan is gone I think they will start to use The Union in the films. The fact that Brosnan is so uncertain over how many films he will make is probably putting the producers off using The Union. Just remember what happened when Lazenby got involved with SPECTRE missions and then there was the whole DAF fiasco... all very messy compared to when SPECTRE was something that Connery dealt with.

Also I bet that Bruce Fierstien will write in a joke in any of The Union films where Le Gerant will say to Bond "You can't get me I'm part of the union" and then break into the rest of the jingle!

Just a thought

[Blue Eyes]

Shatterhand was a rumoured name for the villain in TND, it later became Carver but Shatterhand was never considered. In fact the name considered was 'Harmsway'.

It's my belief that we wont' see Shatterhand used anytime soon.

And though there is the one word title pattern, that doesn't mean it will happen in Bond 20

Though Bond 20 will still be huge I think. It's 40 years since Dr. No and the 20th James Bond movie. I think thye'll ake it huge!!!

[007_Fanatic]

I do hope Bond 20 will be big, with huge sets for the villain's hideaway. The idea of having S.P.E.C.T.R.E is Ok, but its a bit of an old news now ain't it. Anyway who was that man on the pre-title sequence of 'For Your Eyes Only' was it Blofeld? Well if it was (and most likely it was or they wouldn't have shown him there in the first place) then it was Moore who actually killed Blofeld and SPECTRE. Because the only reason why the pre-title sequence in For Your Eyes Only is the way it is was because it ment to introduce a new Bond, and they just put Blofeld? in for old times sake.

[Blue Eyes]

SPECTRE probably won't return because of McClory's latest law suit and cause I remember reading something about Michael G Wilson saying they want to move on from it.

And the guy at the start wasn't necessarily Blofeld. It was EON's way of telling McClory "Stuff you, we don't need the character anyway!"

[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by Adam
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Was "Casino Royale" made as a comedy ?.
I don't think it should be remade , as it's now in Bond histroy, it wouldn't be right, because it's been done once no matter how bad it was. I think a book that hasn't been made should become a film or a whole new film created should be Bond20.

SEEYAS

[Blue Eyes]

Well funnily enough EON are remaining fairly tight lipped about the script - unofficially and officially. I know it's just been written etc... but nothing has leaked out. Which seems strange cause usually we get a hint of something somehow.

Actually I guess we've heard the Wai Lin news!!

But perhaps they intend to do an updated version of it!

Would be good, but it would have to be very updated to fit in!@

[mrmoon]

Bringing back SPECTRE is a MUST, I've wanted it since goldeneye. Along with the revival of SPECTRE we can then bring back the enormous and spectacuarly creative sets that have been missing for so long. And if the critics don't think its realistic enough they can KISS MY its fiction for god sake and the incredible size of the films is why its still alive today and why critics are still in a job (crap job that it is)

[rubixcub]

My only wish for Bond 20? Make it MEMORABLE. That's why Bond films have survived so long, because they're memorable. It'd be nice to have a villain with a memorable name for a change. Whitaker, Sanchez, and Carver aren't remembered by name even today, while Goldfinger and Dr. No are remembered vividly. That's why I keep touting "Shatterhand" as a good title for Bond 20. It's memorable, comes from Fleming (Blofeld's alias in YOLT, just the novel; the story and the alias got dropped in the screen version), and would make a great Bond villain name. They could take Guntram Shatterhand and make him into a new person. Not only that, but this next Bond film is Brosnan's fourth, and the fourth film each Bond actor does has a one-word title (Thunderball, Moonraker) and is larger than life, so Shatterhand as a Bond extravaganza would certainly be appropriate. What do you think about all of these ideas? I really wanna know.

[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by Damien Ristori
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Personally I would love to see Joe Don Baker portray another villain. I thought he did a great job as Brad Whitaker The Living Daylights.

He did his bet considering the amount of time he got on screen and was sertainly much more believable than Blofeld or Drax who were fantasy villains.

Others worthy of becoming a Bond villain

1 - Martin Kemp - Eastenders
2 - Gareth Marks - Jean Daniel from Bugs

[Blue Eyes]

I said it somewhere in another post but I dont' know if I'd be entierely comfortable with Shatterhand as the title but I'd love to see it as a villains name..

But I would also love to see Harmsway as a villains name!!! I think it was quite good.

Oh and while I'm thinking of it. In one of the scripts for TWINE Renard had a hawk that he had tamed and he could get it to attack people and pluck their eyes. Sounds weird but I have a feeling we'll see it return in a future film. Even maybe BOnd 20 !

[Jacques Nexus]

Blue Eyes (27 May, 2001 04:00 a.m.):
I think the biggest problem personally with Shatterhand is it's not  a cool motto thingo like TWINE and TND - both which could be considered inspirational. But that's not to say they can't use it -  I just like the inspirational element.

You like cool motto type titles ?. So do I but one word titles are good too. GOLDFINGER, THUNDERBALL, MOONRAKER, OCTOPUSSY, GOLDENEYE and not to mention...SHATTERHAND....plus mine...ZIGGURAT & SILVERTONGUE.

[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by Erik Rupp
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The "comedy" version of CASINO ROYALE that was made back in 1967 did not even remotely resemble the Ian Fleming novel. The novel has never REALLY been adapted for the big screen. It is one of the best Bond novels, and should get the same big screen treatment as the rest of Fleming's Bond stories. Before EON moves forward with new stories, they should finish up with the classics. And none of Fleming's novels are more "classic" than CASINO ROYALE.

[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by Erik Rupp
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I'm pretty sure EON does have the rights to S.P.E.C.T.R.E. since Kevin McClory lost his court case - the judge determined that he did not renew his rights to THUNDERBALL in time, which was the only point of contention on EON using S.P.E.C.T.R.E. - so now they should be free to use S.P.E.C.T.R.E. since they appear in several novels that EON definitely own the rights to.

Lets see a return of S.P.E.C.T.R.E. - OR a new adaptation of CASINO ROYALE! Either way is fine with me.

[rubixcub]

mrmoon (23 Mar, 2001 07:46 p.m.):
Going on past record 20 should be the biggest. The fact its the 20th and the 40th anniversary at the same time plus, both Thunderball(Seans biggest) and Moonraker (Rogers Biggest) were both their 4th Film. So it looks promising and I don't think we'll be disappointed.

I had at one point noted that myself. Although some say YOLT was Connery's biggest (I think they were probably right, too). Let's hope for the best, and I still think Shatterhand, even if it has no chance, would still make a good title and a good villain name. Call me what you will, I stand by that opinion (and all my other ones, too).

[Blue Eyes]

He'd probably make a good Blofeld as well cause he's a brilliant actor.

But as Le Gerant I'd be happy

[Blue Eyes]

Original Message by Ryan
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Scrap SPECTRE. Bring in The Union from Raymond Bensons novels

[The Admiral]

Yes, then they can bring Anthony Hopkins in as Number 1!

[The Admiral]

They'll make it as good as they can to beat all the rest as it's the 20th.

[Blue Eyes]

I personally can't see them bringin SPECTRE back as much as I'd like it. I'd love tosee the Union now. Depending on how the latest books goes

[Jacques Nexus]

Blue Eyes (04 Feb, 2001 11:09 a.m.):
Original Message by CDS
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Yeah I agree, The Union should be introduced to the film series. And my choice for Le Gerant: Patrick Stewart.

Jean-Luc Picard and Le Gerant; both are French characters. How very clever.