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The 007 Days Of 'Casino Royale'


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#1 Mister Asterix

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 12:29 AM

Some sources say the eleventh of November 1920, some late November of 1924; the day James Bond was born is shrouded in the ever-changing cloud of 007

#2 Mister Asterix

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 12:45 AM

The first article in the series is up.

Royale Mission: S-Branch Debriefing

#3 Zographos

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 09:09 PM

Did you write that all yourself? If so, will you make love to me...right now? :)

I'm impressed. Keep up the good work.


#4 Bryce (003)

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 09:23 PM

Very well done Mr.*

As ever.

#5 zencat

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 09:42 PM

Love it Mr. *

:)

#6 Mister Asterix

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 11:21 PM

Thanks everyone. :)

I hope you enjoy Barbara

#7 Xenobia

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 01:37 AM

Evan you are genius...and I have told you that many times.

As someone who resisted reading Ian Fleming until the last possible moment...please join us in the Blades Book Club, and embrace the man who gave us so many years of pleasure.

And by all means everyone, please enjoy these seven days of Casino Royale. Everyone has worked hard on their pieces, and I would like to think it shows. So please, show your appreciation of their work by reading and discussing these articles.

-- Xenobia

#8 Xenobia

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 02:01 AM

One more thing that I would be remiss if I didn't note:

Both Mr. Asterix and Tim007, as well as other members of the CBN Staff helped me a lot with assembling the translations for my article, and helping me put the translations into the context of the novel.

-- Xenobia

#9 Kernal Son

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 06:01 AM

Outstanding! :-)

#10 Agent 0011

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 02:06 PM

splendid....a much enjoyed piece....loving these days of casino royale :)

#11 ChandlerBing

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 02:08 PM

Casino Royale is a very underrated piece of literature that needs to be discussed more and more in the public forums. I tried to discuss doing a presentation of this book for my Lit class last fall at Southwestern. I almost gagged when my teacher told me it wasn't appropriate. I was made to do the Color Purple instead.

#12 Zographos

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 09:40 PM

Originally posted by ChandlerBing
Casino Royale is a very underrated piece of literature that needs to be discussed more and more in the public forums.  I tried to discuss doing a presentation of this book for my Lit class last fall at Southwestern.  I almost gagged when my teacher told me it wasn't appropriate.  I was made to do the Color Purple instead.


That's rough. :)

In Grade 10 English, our major project was to compare a piece of literature with its movie counterpart. I did "From Russia, with Love". I still remember my teacher saying "that was a Sean Connery one, right? Okay, that's acceptable." :)

In Grade 13 English, we were to compare two or more novels in some shape or form. I chose Fleming and le Carr

#13 Agent 0011

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 10:41 PM

Yea...i agree, same thing happened to me in my honors seminar class history and literature class i had to take last year...my professor said it wasnt distinguished enough....i did it anyway and the review board thought highly of it and liked the parallels w/ the cold war from a new perspective then the same stuff everyone always uses....score one for fleming!

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Posted 08 April 2003 - 10:43 PM

With all the translations in the 002 days of Casino Royale, what does "croupier" translate into english?
From the baccarat game.

#15 Mister Asterix

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 01:43 AM

Today’s article is posted. Our friend Bryce (003) supplied us with this terrific article looking at the man we all want to know about, James Bond:

Casino Royale: Who is this guy?

Enjoy.

#16 Bryce (003)

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 02:02 AM

Wow! Kind of awe inspiring to see it on the main page.

Mr. *, once we've all had our "days" posted, maybe we should have a special section for all of them in the archives.

Just a thought.

and my dear Xenobia - Wonderful article! If only my instruction in French had been so easy to put into focus.

I still know enough to order a martini, find a bathroom, start an international incident and get my face slapped....usually all at once;)

#17 zencat

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 02:11 AM

Xen and Bryce, wonderful articles both!

#18 Bryce (003)

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 02:15 AM

Thank you my friend.

Expect a bottle waiting in your room on the Queen Mary;)

#19 clinkeroo

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 04:47 AM

Originally posted by ChandlerBing
Casino Royale is a very underrated piece of literature that needs to be discussed more and more in the public forums.  I tried to discuss doing a presentation of this book for my Lit class last fall at Southwestern.  I almost gagged when my teacher told me it wasn't appropriate.  I was made to do the Color Purple instead.


Alice Walker vs. Ian Fleming. Funny how few people you see reading Walker outside of the university environment. People always try to paint Fleming as a racist, but Walker seemed to be incapable of writing a black male character that had even a single redeeming quality.
I believe I'll have the opportunity to comment on some of the literary merits of Casino Royale, but it would have been fun to see an article on the critical reception of the novel. Fleming's literary camp loved it, but the liberal intelligentsia reacted as if they had been gut shot. Funny how this still gets played out fifty years later in schools and universities across the Western world.

#20 Xenobia

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Jeff007
With all the translations in the 002 days of Casino Royale, what does "croupier" translate into english?
From the baccarat game.


That's a very good question. That word has come over to English, part and parcel. In other words, there really isn't a translation for it.

However, I have been informed of the meaning of that sentence Bond refers to as a vulgar way to say "We won't split hairs." It translates directly to "But let's not ******* the flies."

Thanks to Abdel for that!

It's nice to know that Bond will swear on occasion.

-- Xenobia

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Posted 09 April 2003 - 09:39 PM

My congratulations to you all for doing such a splendid job with analyzing the great piece of literature that is Casino Royale.:) I'm actually doing an ISU (Independent Study Unit) right now in English on the novel Moonraker, so this really fits in well. Mr.*: your imagination and creativity astounded me. Ask for a desk job at MI6 when you retire.:) Xenobia: As a student who has been studying French for the past 5+ years, I still managed to learn a lot from your article that they don't teach us in class. Feel free to give my class a lesson sometime.:) And Bryce. Bryce, to say the least, most people agree that you're the answer to "Who is this guy?" when it comes to defining James Bond. Good work.:) Good job, guys, including the other staff members who aren't directly credited. Can't wait for the rest.

#22 Mister Asterix

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 12:05 AM

John Cox has provided us with today’s installment. An excellent article about collecting the different versions Fleming’s first novel. Here it is:

The Collectible Casino

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 01:48 AM

Originally posted by Double-Oh-Zero
...And Bryce. Bryce, to say the least, most people agree that you're the answer to "Who is this guy?" when it comes to defining James Bond. Good work.:)


Thanks.

I am proud to say that I am the Bond fan who lives the lifestyle the best that I can.

Maybe someone else can write the "Who is Bryce?" article;)

Zencat, great piece! Someday you've really got to sit down with me and review my own literary Bond collection so I can have an accurate appraisal.

As ever, fine fine work my friend.

#24 Xenobia

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 02:46 AM

Zencat:

What can I say? Your article about the Collectible Casino Royale is all that I thought it would be and so much more!

I don't know what is more fascinating to me....your article, or trying to guess how many of those editions you own. :)

Very well done!

-- Xen

#25 zencat

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 03:00 AM

Originally posted by Xenobia
I don't know what is more fascinating to me....your article, or trying to guess how many of those editions you own. :)

All of them and more. :)

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 03:12 AM

That's right Zen...make the other Xen jealous. Gee thanks. ;-)

Again, well done.

-- Xenobia

#27 zencat

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 03:12 AM

Thanks, doll. :)

#28 Xenobia

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Posted 10 April 2003 - 03:40 AM

Originally posted by zencat
Thanks, doll. :)


*ahem* The name is Barbara. Not Barbie.

My figure is better than hers. I have prettier hair. And I can hold down a job.

Thank you very much.

:-D

(For those who are missing the tone, the above is sarcasm. :))

-- Xenobia

#29 Mister Asterix

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 12:48 AM

Today’s installment is an excellent article from Thomas Clink (known as clinkeroo in these forums). Here is the link:

The Royale Treatment: Casino Royale As Literature

Many, many thanks to Thomas for taking so much time and writing a very informative article.

#30 jwheels

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Posted 11 April 2003 - 01:30 AM

Are Earl Stanley Gardner, Dashiell Hammett, and Mickey Spillane's novels still in print?

Also, I think these articles so far are superb, and am looking foward to reading the final two