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[MovieManOO7]

After all, EON does have the rights to CASINO ROYALE now. It would probably be more down-to-earth to avoid comparison with the 1967 spoof but if it was handled correctly (and with Brosnan!) it could be one of the best in the series.

Just as long as they don't make Bond too serious. Unfortunately, it seems like the producers have been mistaking a down-to-earth Bond as related to the character and not to the story. They should keep Bond's character fun (but to a point!).

I think Brosnan could perfectly adapt to the seriousness needed for CR and the humor.

~MovieManOO7
"All the time in a world that is not enough..."

[belvedere]

YES! YES! YES!

I would use the novel as the starting point - the first act can be in Monte Carlo (I know they used it on Goldeneye, but they reused Istanbul for TWINE, and Cuba was reused in DAD - first appeared in Goldeneye), and make Le Chiffre the head of some evil organization (SPECTRE? Does Eon own the rights to it now or does McClory still?). Then it can go on to exotic locales like Singapore.

[kevrichardson]

what purpose would it serve to move to exotic locations, the entire nove was ste in the south of France. it was about a another era , it who make more sense to keep the movie as simple as the novel.plus after 9/11. the need to travel aorund the world has on purpose. we need a Bond movie like OHMSS/Dr.No that sticks to one (1) local. this will also alow for more money spent on a better script and cast. make it a ensemble piece like FRWL.

[DLibrasnow]

I always thought Casino Royale was set in northern France....doesn't he talk about Le Touquet??

[General Orlov]

I have mixed feelings about CR as the next Bond-movie. I like the novel, I really do, but I don't think it has enough substance to be turned into an 100-or-so-minutes movie.

Actually, in the second half of the book (after Bond gets captured) there isn't too much happening. Bond gets captured and tortured, then miraculously rescued, spends a long time in hospital and then goes on vacation with Vesper. I can't see that this plot would work - especially not with today's movie-goers' expactions of a Bond-movie.

Sure enough, I'd love to see a more down-to-earth Bond next time rather than the overblown stuff we're getting at the moment. I just don't think that it would work with "only" CR.

I like the idea of taking CR as a starting point, though. Be there changes of place or note, I think that Fleming's novel needs to be expanded to make a good movie.

[MovieManOO7]

Originally posted by General Orlov
I have mixed feelings about CR as the next Bond-movie. I like the novel, I really do, but I don't think it has enough substance to be turned into an 100-or-so-minutes movie.  

Actually, in the second half of the book (after Bond gets captured) there isn't too much happening. Bond gets captured and tortured, then miraculously rescued, spends a long time in hospital and then goes on vacation with Vesper. I can't see that this plot would work - especially not with today's movie-goers' expactions of a Bond-movie.

Sure enough, I'd love to see a more down-to-earth Bond next time rather than the overblown stuff we're getting at the moment. I just don't think that it would work with "only" CR.  

I like the idea of taking CR as a starting point, though. Be there changes of place or note, I think that Fleming's novel needs to be expanded to make a good movie.

Actually, the book does go into detail about Vesper beign frightened by the man in the eye-patch (I don't recall his name or if he was even named - the last time I read the book was a year ago). The second half of the movie could feature Bond tracking him down and perhaps solving the mystery behind his miraculous rescue and/or Vesper's betrayal by not including Vesper's deus-ex-machina letter to Bond.

[belvedere]

Guys, let's get realistic - the cinematic 007 has evolved well beyond the primitive thrillers of fifty years ago. You need meat on the bones of Fleming's work.

Why can't they take the title, premise, characters, and some plot, and flesh out a bigger story from there?

[Jeff007]

They should at least use the title for Bond 21. We don't need what happened in the book to go on the screen.

Why don't they just make a story about TSWLM novel. JK
Oh wait, isn't that what Halle Berry wants. A movie with all Jinx and no Bond.

[kevrichardson]

The novel Casino Royale, as is would not make a good film is stupid. Yet in god;s name can horror film fans have say, Mary Shelly's Frankenstein. made. literal adpatation of the novel may work. in the original novel,bond is a cold, ruthless assassin,send on a mission to destroy LeChiffer. plain and simple, it can be expanded and re-arranged.Those of you ,who know your Fleming will realize that final after 40 year, Moonraker has made it way to the big screen. What DAD is ,it's the first half of tne novel, tranlated to the big screen. Graves is just a screen version of Hugo Drax from the novel. The notion of the enemy whose hiding in plain site. Remember, Drax was a nazi who hated Britain. Graves is a Norht Korean who hates the west, tranformed in to a western.Remember Drax in the novel can out of nowhere, with the aid of plastic suregry. He is knighted for services to Britain, and plots to destroy the UK with the Moonraker rocket. Bond spend the early part of the novel, attempting to figure out what he up took. Well this work for the 3/4 of DAD. Why can a talented screenwriter, be it Purvis and Wade,Michael France, Bruce Feirstein. with over a year just too work on the screenplay adpat Casino Royale. the romance part of the novel,the boring last 1/3(?) . most of than could simply be move around,updated. Serveral underuse female character,like Inga Bergstrom can return, too give the film a more romantic feel. Like said Hitchcock,in Too Catch a thief. Bond was never about machine-gun and the sort. it was about exotic Locals, adventure,mystery. Peopl who say that Casino Royale will not work , then would not in a Novel/film of FRWL. the book in the early part is nothing more than the Russian Secret Service palnning to assassinate James Bond. Yet in the Hands of Maibaum ,Trrance Young and other it is one of the greatest Bond films ever. The fight scene in the book is far more brutal, than in the film . yet the film version is the great fight scene in thehistory of motion pictures. Yet most we short change , Casino Royale jst can be update.