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#1 RITZ

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Posted 28 November 2002 - 10:26 AM

I hope I don't offend anyone, but I find Brozza's "american-irish-english" accent annoying. In GE his accent was perfect and in TND. But when TWINE came out, some of his pronounciations were different.

I've noticed it much more in DAD(seen it twice).
I didn't mind Connery's occasional Scottish accent slipping through, but an american Bond doesn't sound good at all(no offence).

Your thoughts please....
:)

#2 Surrender

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Posted 28 November 2002 - 11:32 AM

during his parkingson interview me and my friends all commented on this irish twang that has appeared. we checked previous interviews and his accent has definately changed. could he be getting flack for forgetting his irish roots perhaps?

#3 RITZ

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Posted 28 November 2002 - 11:36 AM

Originally posted by Surrender
during his parkingson interview me and my friends all commented on this irish twang that has appeared. we checked previous interviews and his accent has definately changed. could he be getting flack for forgetting his irish roots perhaps?



You're probably right. I saw a clip of his new film "Evelyn" and he does have a strong irish accent - this film is all about going back to his roots

#4 Johnny Tower

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Posted 28 November 2002 - 11:50 AM

I've heard countless times that his acting in "Evelyn" is worthy of an Oscar nomination... let's hope for that. Yes, his accent seems different in this film, but certainly tolerable. It's Pierce for crying out loud... he's the man!

#5 General Koskov

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Posted 28 November 2002 - 08:38 PM

It's sad when an Irishman has to put on an Irish accent. He's not a character actor, so no accent is necessary. Isn't this what made Lazenby unpopular?

#6 Xenobia

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 03:21 AM

Folks...you have not lived until you have heard Brosnan's mighty morphing accent, during his days on "Remington Steele." He would go from English to Irish to somewhere in between and back to English..often in one short sentence. :)

Pierce's Irish accent comes out when he speaks of his homeland, or when he is there for extended periods of time (duh!) as he was when filming "Evelyn."

Now, I must say I find this talk of an American accent entertaining. I can well assure you...no matter what he sounds like in DAD (which, I grant you at times does head toward the Celtic), he never sounds close to American to me.

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 03:35 AM

Pierce Brosnan does not have an american accent,I have noticed american inflections popping up in his speech from time to time. Then again he has been living here in the U.S for years,his fading accent was bound to happen.

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Posted 29 November 2002 - 03:47 AM

Dude, stop knit-picking. I think Brosnan sounds fine.

#9 RITZ

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Posted 02 December 2002 - 03:05 PM

Here's a great line from TWINE:

BOND: "...that's nothing compared to what a 20 tonne nuclear bomb can do!"

#10 WhiteKnightBond

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Posted 03 December 2002 - 04:21 PM

Hmm...that's an interesting point being brought up here...but to tell you the truth it didn't bother me one bit, or maybe I just didn't notice it. To me Pierce doesn't sound American, he still has the old Irish/English twang.

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Posted 03 December 2002 - 04:25 PM

The irish comes on really strong in certain scenes of TWINE, particularly...

"The report Sir Robert bought was stolen..."

The first 2 times I saw it, I had NO idea what he was saying. It sounded more like, "Theriportserroberbaut was stolen..."

But American accent? No.

Dan

#12 DLibrasnow

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Posted 03 December 2002 - 04:27 PM

I think Brosnan sounds fine to me, and before you point out my location, I was born and raised in Scotland..

#13 B5Erik2

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Posted 03 December 2002 - 05:11 PM

Brosnan has a mid Atlantic accent. Somewhere between England and America. Throw in a bit of that Irish accent and there you go!

His accent became more American during his stint in Hollywood doing Remington Steele. He doesn't have nearly as much of an English(British) accent as Roger Moore or Timothy Dalton did.

Sean Conerry had his own accent going - mostly English with a bit of that Scottish sprinkled in. His accent became more Scottish as the series progressed. In NSNA his Scottish accent really came through - but he still came across as a British agent overall.

#14 SeanValen00V

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Posted 03 December 2002 - 06:08 PM

Luckily they never filmed DAD in Ireland, if his homeland brings the Irish accent back.


But I get what you mean, sometimes he sounds more English at times, I remember the opening of GE, hanging down in the toilet "Excuse me, I forgot to knock." That was his highest peak of English I remember.

#15 Turn

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Posted 03 December 2002 - 06:21 PM

I used to find Roger Moore's accent more distracting when he would pronounce his "A" sounds like "R". Such as in FYEO when he tosses Loque the dove pin and says "You left this with Ferrarer, I believe." Instead of Ferrara. Or he would pronounce Melina's boat the Triana "the Trianer".

#16 Morton Slumber

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Posted 04 December 2002 - 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Surrender
during his parkingson interview me and my friends all commented on this irish twang that has appeared. we checked previous interviews and his accent has definately changed. could he be getting flack for forgetting his irish roots perhaps?


Actually his accent changed mid-interview on Parkinson. Once he started talking about Evelyn he suddenly developed a heavy Irish accent. Very strange.

#17 Xenobia

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Posted 04 December 2002 - 06:53 AM

It's not Strange Mr. Slumber...just Pierce. When he is reminded of Ireland, and speaks of it, his accent becomes Irish, because mentally, for him, he is there.

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#18 Morton Slumber

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Posted 04 December 2002 - 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Xenobia
It's not Strange Mr. Slumber...just Pierce.  When he is reminded of Ireland, and speaks of it, his accent becomes Irish, because mentally, for him, he is there.

-- Xenobia



I see.:)

I'll have a glass of whatever you have been drinking, Barbara.

#19 Kingdom Come

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Posted 04 December 2002 - 06:14 PM

Its worth a note; the the Irish and American sound can be very similar.

#20 DLibrasnow

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Posted 04 December 2002 - 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Turn
I used to find Roger Moore's accent more distracting when he would pronounce his "A" sounds like "R". Such as in FYEO when he tosses Loque the dove pin and says "You left this with Ferrarer, I believe." Instead of Ferrara. Or he would pronounce Melina's boat the Triana "the Trianer".


Yeah we British have a tendency to put R's at the end of words, and drop r's when an "r" actually does exist..

#21 Jim

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Posted 05 December 2002 - 08:13 AM

Originally posted by Xenobia
It's not Strange Mr. Slumber...just Pierce.  When he is reminded of Ireland, and speaks of it, his accent becomes Irish, because mentally, for him, he is there.

-- Xenobia


On that logic, when he's reminded of being James Bond, mentally, for him, he can be James Bond.

So when's that going to happen?

#22 Morton Slumber

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Posted 05 December 2002 - 08:32 AM

This all reminds me of an incident that took place the other day. Somebody asked me my opinion of the 1945 Bettie Davis classic The Corn is Green. Moments after starting to discuss the film I suddenly, to the astonishment of all around me, started to effect a strong Welsh accent. They were convinced, in the end, that I had not taken leave of my sanity when I explained that:- "when I am reminded of Wales, and speak of it, my accent becomes Welsh, because mentally, for me, I am there."

The same thing happens when I talk about Q or daffodils. It's not strange.

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Posted 05 December 2002 - 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Turn
I used to find Roger Moore's accent more distracting when he would pronounce his "A" sounds like "R". Such as in FYEO when he tosses Loque the dove pin and says "You left this with Ferrarer, I believe." Instead of Ferrara. Or he would pronounce Melina's boat the Triana "the Trianer".

That's not unusual. I've noticed it most when hearing English F1 commentators referring to a driver named "Senner." Took me a guess or two to realize it was Ayrton Senna they were talking about :).

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 05:20 AM

Morton: You see you have proven my theory to be so. For me, when I think of my friends in the UK...the slighest hint of a British accent comes through, and I do start using words like "Mobile phone," "Lift," "Crisps," "Duvet," etc.

It's only when I am not in NYC, and speaking of my hometown does that ever famous accent come out.

And one more thing MS...you would be joining me in a vodka martini. You know the rest.

As for you Jim, according to some Bond fans, but not all, Mr. Brosnan IS Mr. Bond.

-- Xenobia

#25 Jim

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 08:36 AM

Originally posted by Xenobia
As for you Jim, according to some Bond fans, but not all, Mr. Brosnan IS Mr. Bond.

-- Xenobia


...or Jesus, according to "some".

Frankly I'm a little suspicious about this. Mr Brosnan, whose accent at all other times could perhaps be described as "Transatlantic" (being generous here) is interviewed promoting a film in which he has a substantial financial stake which is set in Ireland and thus must convince us that he can recover an Irish accent after years spent in that well-known suburb of Tipperary, Malibu, and strives to do this to avoid criticism that after decades away from the auld sod, the old sod sounds as convincingly Irish as Diego Maradona.

#26 Dr. Tynan

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 08:11 PM

There's a certain American accent that pronounces Rs like Ys. What accent is that?

For example if they were saying this (and no offense);

"You're new here, you've got to say the first thing that comes into your head"

They'd say it like this;

"Yaw noo heea, ya gotta say the foyst thing that comes inda ya head"

#27 JimmyBond

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 08:56 PM

Sounds like a Boston accent to me.

#28 Sal J

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 09:02 PM

Why The Fuss I understand Pierce can be a little muffeld at times BUT WHY ALL THE FUSS!!!!!!!

#29 Dr. Tynan

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 09:03 PM

Oh right :)

I was thought it was perhaps the people of "Noo Joysey" who spoke that way :)

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Posted 06 December 2002 - 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Xenobia
It's not Strange Mr. Slumber...just Pierce.  When he is reminded of Ireland, and speaks of it, his accent becomes Irish, because mentally, for him, he is there.

-- Xenobia

The same thing happened on Inside the Actor's Studio. They start by asking you about your childhood, and Pierce had a thick Irish accent. Then they asked about his boyhood years in England, and his accent fell halfway between Irish and English. Then they asked about his early years acting, in England, and it was pure English. It stayed pure English for the rest of the interview, until they got to Evelyn, and then SNAP it was Irish again.

I learned during that interview that Pierce was trained as a method actor. Method actors work from sense memory, so this training would cause him to become the Pierce he imagines he is. At least, this is the explanation that makes the most sense to me.

He doesn't sound at all American to me and never has.

And Sean Connery always sounded VERY Scottish to me. Moore even imitates him! And Fleming wrote Bond as Scottish in his last books to accomodate the accent.