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[DavidJones]

They waited for Mendes, so I think they will wait for Craig. Sadly, a middle-aged woman is infatuated with him and can't let go.

Edited by DavidJones, 25 July 2016 - 06:59 PM.

[Dustin]

I don't know how age figures in this. Or why it's important it's a woman. About whom we know next to nothing, at best we assume; this just as an aside.

As for 'can't let go' - there is a lot to be said about that. The wisest move would be to leave it unsaid. Bond fans tend to be not the best of judges when it comes to let things go.

[Tiin007]

Empire Cinemas: The next Bond movie is due to hit Empire Cinemas 2018. Don't rule out Daniel Craig's return as 007.

 

https://twitter.com/...636574469296128

[sharpshooter]

It would be the same gap between Skyfall and SPECTRE. That must have been long enough breathing space for Craig to recover.

 

And to be completely honest, I didn't think it would happen, but the whole Taylor Swift hysteria has put me off Tom a tad. 

[# 11]

Empire Cinemas: The next Bond movie is due to hit Empire Cinemas 2018. Don't rule out Daniel Craig's return as 007.

 

https://twitter.com/...636574469296128

I wouldn't be surprised if they're just quoting the Sun…

[Surrie]

And to be completely honest, I didn't think it would happen, but the whole Taylor Swift hysteria has put me off Tom a tad. 

 

I never was a champion of him as Bond in the first place, but with the addition of TS in the mix, even more so. 

 

 

I don't know how age figures in this. Or why it's important it's a woman. About whom we know next to nothing, at best we assume; this just as an aside.

As for 'can't let go' - there is a lot to be said about that. The wisest move would be to leave it unsaid. Bond fans tend to be not the best of judges when it comes to let things go.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. 

[thecasinoroyale]

#TomHiddlestonForBond

#TaylorSwiftForBondGirlAndThemeSong

 

I'm just irked that a company like EON, riding such a money machine like 007, can't or won't issue updates on the current situation. It feels like after every film there is a "jeopardy" surrounding the future. Nothing feels certain, or safe, anymore and it's unsettling.

 

I just want confirmation where we stand with Daniel Craig as Bond or not.

 

Personally, after everything, I'm ready for fresh blood and toning things down before we get another 'Die Another Day'.

[Dustin]

In all fairness, we as fans should sometimes remember that not everything in today's world revolves around Bond. Even the folks producing these films are not all solely living, breathing Bond 24/7. We will hear in time what news there is to hear. And we may safely trust that nobody is stalling the venture more than necessary intentionally. But for now we cannot do anything else but wait and see.

[Surrie]

I don't mind not having regular updates regarding where we stand with Bond - that's almost a part of the mystery surrounding the franchise. However, I can appreciate that sometimes it is annoying not knowing what to expect, but no one wants to show all their cards at once.

[Dustin]

No doubt, it is frustrating. But it's nowhere near as bad - yet - as things were after '89. Thankfully nothing indicates that sort of limbo would repeat itself now. Within at most one year we should see much clearer.

[SecretAgentFan]

I guess the impatience is mostly due to the constant stream of news and rumours that we are bombarded with in the age of the internet - which feels quite silly if one looks back at former years in which we got nothing but maybe the odd short magazine clipping.  

 

And really, it´s only 8 months since SPECTRE was in theatres.  Not getting any news for at least 4-8 more months would be perfectly normal.

[S K Y F A L L]

 

 

And really, it´s only 8 months since SPECTRE was in theatres.  Not getting any news for at least 4-8 more months would be perfectly normal.

Normal how? You mean NOT compared to any other franchise right?...

[Shrublands]

 

Empire Cinemas: The next Bond movie is due to hit Empire Cinemas 2018. Don't rule out Daniel Craig's return as 007.

 

https://twitter.com/...636574469296128

I wouldn't be surprised if they're just quoting the Sun…

 

 

My thoughts too.

[Dustin]

SecretAgentFan and myself belong to a generation where long stretches of basically nothing used to be the staple diet of Bond news for years. Even back in the golden days of the 24 month schedule we didn't hear a lot until one year after the last premiere. Not everybody back then trawled the Variety pages for Bond news and what good was it to report that XYZ has been trusted with writing a Bond script anyway? When you didn't know more the newspapers themselves just put such snippets often into their files for later reference.

The ordinary fan - for a given value of ordinary - typically heard about a Bond production when they started shooting, an event coming with a short notice at the back of the newspaper, basically containing nothing but the press junket.

When you wanted to know more you had to wait till they started letting the big news outlets and tv stations report from the set for a day or two. Often that was it until postproduction was almost done and the in-depth pieces started coming up some weeks prior to the premiere.

Those were the days...

[SecretAgentFan]

Indeed. 

[S K Y F A L L]

You two are always cleaning out the cobwebs in my brain. 

 

But at least you got the title of the next film at the end of the current Bond film. I'm having a hard time remembering, when did they stop doing that again?.... was AVTAK the last? or was it after they changed their mind on FYEO?...

[Single-O-Seven]

The end of Octopussy, naming "From A View To A Kill" as the next film, was the last time we saw a title.

[S K Y F A L L]

I take for granted that I was born in the Internet age. I remember printing off the Bond film list off the Klast web set when TWINE came out.

I was 11 and I collected them on VHS one at a time.

[SecretAgentFan]

Interesting news.  Pinewood will probably continue to draw big budget films like the Bond franchise.

 

http://variety.com/2...ton-1201825484/

[Dustin]

Pinewood must pull big budget productions, given the amount of investment and expansion the enterprise saw over the last few years. Remains to be seen how much tax incentives productions will see in the future. But one can't imagine whatever hardships they will encounter due to future developments the government wouldn't soften and cushion with initiatives of their own. It's a prestige object that's important beyond the mere number of jobs and money earned.

[wdj89]

they're only selling ownership but keeping the studios/business etc untouched as far as I can see

As long as the international movies keep coming to Pinewood then they'll be fine - even if the British industry itself takes a post Brexit dive

 

BUT - I would look for more investment in their Atlanta studios being the home of the Marvel movies for the foreseeable future (unless its derailed by another discriminatory law) and perhaps a new venture in NZ or Australia

[SecretAgentFan]

Judging from the DC problems Warner has and the current chief honcho actually coming from marketing instead of making movies, I sincerely hope that WB will NOT become the next distributor for Bond.

 

Right now, WB only is interested in "branding", not the quality of filmmaking.  EON will know that and try to object - but will MGM who only are in it for the money as well?

[Surrie]

If MGM has any understanding of the industry, above their gold-tinted spectacles, they'll understand that quality filmmaking will equal better returns on investment. 

[SecretAgentFan]

If only that were true...

[Dustin]

The state the industry is currently in doesn't much care for quality itself. It's nice if they can get it, more or less by chance. But the priorities lie elsewhere.

As far as branding goes, and Warner's interest in getting Bond to exploit that established brand, I doubt that they would be willing to agree on MGM's terms as long as MGM isn't willing to cut back on their own pound of flesh. There would be other, cheaper brands they could get their hands on.

[SecretAgentFan]

True.  Then again, boasting to have "BOND" now would stroke the ego of the WB exec and help him with the stock holders - regardless of whether this will pay off.

 

It´s all about appearances, sadly, and if Disney can say "We have Pixar AND Marvel", WB right now can only say "We have DC (and are ruining it)".  Yes, "Harry Potter" can probably be rebooted in a couple of years, too, but if this spin-off thing "Fantastic Beasts" will take off is another bet WB is currently nervous about.

 

So, to spend ridiculous money on getting BOND might appear at least attractive for the absurd power level thinking.

[Orion]

Disney ended up winning a long game by placing quality above all else and reducing the amount of executive meddling they were notorious for. Marvel have been flourishing under them and Star Wars (indeed Lucasfilm in general) has (so far) only improved under their banner.

Though given that they have Marvel, Star Wars and Indiana Jones, I don't see them wanting Bond.

[SecretAgentFan]

I also don´t think Disney would make a big push for Bond.

 

But make no mistake: they meddle.  Big time.  Ask Garreth Edwards...

[Orion]

I also don´t think Disney would make a big push for Bond.

 

But make no mistake: they meddle.  Big time.  Ask Garreth Edwards...

Oh all studios do, it's merely they've stepped down their meddling, which I think is more a comment on how bad they once where if this is what they're like when they're less hands on.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, there is a kind of quality control that studios should enforce (and some of the great execs do exactly that): getting a project done on time within the budget, keeping it in line with the promises made by the producers and the director, staying on the same page creatively.

 

Too many execs these days, however, do not come from a filmmaking background but are marketing or financial people.  They only care about "branding" and end results.  Which leads to this school of thought: what has worked before has to be repeated unless it does not work anymore.

 

In the case of Disney: STAR WARS VII worked big time.  ROGUE ONE has to work the same way (even if it was conceived as something very different).

 

Or in Bond´s case: SKYFALL was the biggest Bond ever.  SPECTRE has to use the same elements.