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[SecretAgentFan]

You couldn´t be further from the truth.

 

Although I always love a "Naked Gun"-clip.

[Shrublands]

This helps explain the delay in finding a new distributor. 

 

Many rival studios believe that MGM is toying with re-entering the distribution business themselves and the new Bond film would be the film to launch this with.

 

http://deadline.com/...ett-1201770134/

[S K Y F A L L]

I've joked about EON doing it themselves, I didn't realize they have done it before. Is that what UNITED ARTISTS was?

This helps explain the delay in finding a new distributor. 

 

Many rival studios believe that MGM is toying with re-entering the distribution business themselves and the new Bond film would be the film to launch this with.

 

http://deadline.com/...ett-1201770134/

[Simon]

Without doing a search, UA was a Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford thing.

 

Not EON.

 

But I too have wondered as to why EON can't go it alone, but I believe it is because EON only have a 50% ownership of the deal.  So, they're all stuck until someone sells out.

 

Which will explain why MGM won't sell the golden goose.

[RMc2]

Without doing a search, UA was a Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford thing.

 

Not EON.

 

But I too have wondered as to why EON can't go it alone, but I believe it is because EON only have a 50% ownership of the deal.  So, they're all stuck until someone sells out.

 

Which will explain why MGM won't sell the golden goose.

 

Didn't UA distribute the Bond films throughout the 80s and 90s? MGM bought UA at some point, which is how EON ended up there, right?

 

UA's had a long and torrid history. Shame, because it's such a great studio in spirit...

 

The arrangement sounds hideously complicated.

[Shrublands]

 

Without doing a search, UA was a Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford thing.

 

Not EON.

 

But I too have wondered as to why EON can't go it alone, but I believe it is because EON only have a 50% ownership of the deal.  So, they're all stuck until someone sells out.

 

Which will explain why MGM won't sell the golden goose.

 

Didn't UA distribute the Bond films throughout the 80s and 90s? MGM bought UA at some point, which is how EON ended up there, right?

 

 

UA did more than that, they are the original studio behind Bond and distributed from the 60s.

UA merged with MGM just before Octopussy and that was when MGM got their first taste of the Bond business.

Harry Saltzman sold his 50% of Bond to UA before TSWLM.

To this day, the Bond licence is actually owned by UA & Danjaq.

[SecretAgentFan]

Good find, Shrublands - although Peter Bart is anything but objective about this.  As is the Nikki Finke-pushed-out deadline.com which basically does puff pieces for Hollywood now.

 

MGM may have found more cash flow resources - but to call it successful with its output is a joke.  Apart from the mild success of "Creed" last year every sequel or reboot (and that´s what they are doing) tanked big time.

 

But due to their commitments to Paramount and Warner it seems likely that Bond will be distributed by one of them.

 

Looking into my crystal ball: I don´t think it will be Warner, they are too panicked to shell out more money since they know that their expanded DC universe might collapse with the next films. 

[Shrublands]

Agreed about Peter Bart, he's had an axe to grind for years. There even appears to be a bit of animosity towards Eon, (he once wrote a poisonous article in Variety) from his days as a VP at MGM.

 

Forbes has this to say concerning the various studios and who will end up with Bond. They seem to feel that a whole package is being put together behind the scenes. Studio, director, star. Which is something I suggested might be happening a few days ago. 

 

http://www.forbes.co...t/#fb0af152557c

 

But i suspect this article is based on a bit of inside info and a lot of guesswork.

[SecretAgentFan]

Thanks, another good find.  

 

I wonder, however, whether even the forbes-article is mainly a mix of rumours and speculation.  No mention at all is made of Warner´s problems with the DC universe.  And the Nolan-Miller-Hardy connection smells of message board dreams.

 

Or nightmares.

[Shrublands]

I think it's of interest that the ever reliable Baz Bamigboye at the Mail had info concerning a meeting between Nolan, Broccoli and Wilson back in May of 2013.
 

It’s early days, but informal talks have begun between Nolan, his representatives and the powers behind the James Bond pictures, Barbara Broccoli and Michael G .Wilson...

...But as one of my Bond experts commented: ‘It does no harm for Broccoli and Wilson to talk with Nolan, even if nothing happens this time round.’

 
At the time, it was assumed this was for what would become Spectre. But it's perhaps telling that the source specifically says "...even if nothing happens this time round".

 

http://www.dailymail...t-007-film.html

[SecretAgentFan]

Nolan was very hot back then and remains a candidate, indeed, especially if WB gets involved.

 

I´d prefer a lighter touch...

[Simon]

Interesting articles, if heavy on speculation.

 

I must admit to thinking this MGM recurring deal with distributors would seem to have the potential to disrupt the flow of things on a regular basis as these deals are struck, lapse and then have to be put out to the market again.  It is a pity EON can't buy MGM's 50% share and strike their own deal with a distributor.

[Walecs]

My only problem with Nolan directing a Bond picture would be Hans Zimmer doing the score.

[SecretAgentFan]

For Nolan Zimmer always puts in an effort.  So...

[S K Y F A L L]

If Nolan would dirct a Bond I wonder if cinematographer Hoyte van Hoytema would return...

[dtuba]

Nolan and van Hoytema? The film would be dark, dreary and yellow tinged.

 

My head hurts just thinking about it...

[univex]

Nolan and van Hoytema? The film would be dark, dreary and yellow tinged.

 

My head hurts just thinking about it...

Depression starts to settle in doesn´t it?

I´d prefer a lighter touch...

Yes, definitely.

[S K Y F A L L]

Why didn't they use a 007 related name for Danjaq? Sounds like a stock.

 

Why not UNIVERSAL EXPORTS...

[RMc2]

I remember an interview with Nolan a couple of years ago where he confirmed EON spoke to him about Bond and he said "they don't need me right now". I took that to mean they discussed the possibility of him handling the introduction of Bond 7.

 

But things have changed since 2013, and Mendes has helped EON to such a stature at the box office and at AMPAS that I wouldn't be surprised if they don't consider Nolan again until his career needs a boost. He'd be cheaper that way...

[RMc2]

 

 

Without doing a search, UA was a Charlie Chaplin and Mary Pickford thing.

 

Not EON.

 

But I too have wondered as to why EON can't go it alone, but I believe it is because EON only have a 50% ownership of the deal.  So, they're all stuck until someone sells out.

 

Which will explain why MGM won't sell the golden goose.

 

Didn't UA distribute the Bond films throughout the 80s and 90s? MGM bought UA at some point, which is how EON ended up there, right?

 

 

UA did more than that, they are the original studio behind Bond and distributed from the 60s.

UA merged with MGM just before Octopussy and that was when MGM got their first taste of the Bond business.

Harry Saltzman sold his 50% of Bond to UA before TSWLM.

To this day, the Bond licence is actually owned by UA & Danjaq.

 

 

Ah, thank you!

[Shrublands]

I remember an interview with Nolan a couple of years ago where he confirmed EON spoke to him about Bond and he said "they don't need me right now". I took that to mean they discussed the possibility of him handling the introduction of Bond 7.

 

 

 

He also said this to Empire back in 2012 concerning Bond. He confirmed that he had spoken to Eon, but added.

 

“It would have to be the right situation and the right time in their cycle of things.”

 

 

I think that this also suggests him helping launch a new Bond, other than him wanting to direct an actor's last film, I'd say that's the only thing he could mean. 

[Shrublands]

Why didn't they use a 007 related name for Danjaq? Sounds like a stock.

 

Why not UNIVERSAL EXPORTS...

 

Danjaq is an amalgamation of the names Dana Broccoli and Jacqueline Saltzman.

[SecretAgentFan]

 

I remember an interview with Nolan a couple of years ago where he confirmed EON spoke to him about Bond and he said "they don't need me right now". I took that to mean they discussed the possibility of him handling the introduction of Bond 7.

 

 

 

He also said this to Empire back in 2012 concerning Bond. He confirmed that he had spoken to Eon, but added.

 

“It would have to be the right situation and the right time in their cycle of things.”

 

 

I think that this also suggests him helping launch a new Bond, other than him wanting to direct an actor's last film, I'd say that's the only thing he could mean. 

 

 

Personally, my love for Nolan´s work has diminished with time.  Right now, I would even consider him tonally wrong for the start of a new era.

 

Hopefully, EON feels the same...

[sharpshooter]

My only problem with Nolan directing a Bond picture would be Hans Zimmer doing the score.

I'd be really interested in a Zimmer Bond soundtrack. I dig his superhero scores, and Inception is another one of my favourites. Beautiful Lie from the Dawn of Justice soundtrack really hit me for six in the cinemas. Powerful stuff.

[S K Y F A L L]

 

Why didn't they use a 007 related name for Danjaq? Sounds like a stock.

 

Why not UNIVERSAL EXPORTS...

 

Danjaq is an amalgamation of the names Dana Broccoli and Jacqueline Saltzman.

 

Did not see that in my search. Kinda sweet but I guess out dated since Saltzman sold his shares...

[Shrublands]

 

 

Why didn't they use a 007 related name for Danjaq? Sounds like a stock.

 

Why not UNIVERSAL EXPORTS...

 

Danjaq is an amalgamation of the names Dana Broccoli and Jacqueline Saltzman.

 

Did not see that in my search. Kinda sweet but I guess out dated since Saltzman sold his shares...

 

 

But keeping it shows respect for the foundation and origin of the whole enterprise.

[S K Y F A L L]

 A glowing tribute, 

[SecretAgentFan]

Of course, a snappy new name like "CoolBond" would have improved everything.

[S K Y F A L L]

Most guys get their wifes flowers. CoolBond? Good one. 

What worries me about a 3-4 year cycle is that I think the film will always be following a tight formula.*

Edited by S K Y F A L L, 14 June 2016 - 07:29 PM.

[SecretAgentFan]

A tight formal indeed is something to worry about.