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[mummyboy11]

Hey guys!
 
I had to come here to chek if the rest of you also got the same feeling as I did watching Spectre.
 
After all the discussion about what actor should replace DC, and the comments of Daniel about wanting to take some time (slashing rists or only doing it for the money, etc...) which at the time sounded just like a tired ator talking after filming a hard movie...and NOW, after watching Spectre's last scene in which 

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Bond abandons MI6 with his "love" in the Aston...

 
Do you think this was planned 

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to make DC's exit? Kind of like what they did with Q in TWINE?
After all it's kind of like OHMSS but in reverse: leaving MI6, the woman, the car but this time even Blofeld didn't stood in the way.

 
I know the day will come, but I seriously thought DC would be the right guy to do at least one more film and reach the 5 mark and maybe do a stand alone film (with nothing related to previous plots, unlike the way it has been up untill now).
 
Oh well! Really liked the movie but ended up sad for the ending.
 
What do you think?

Edited by mummyboy11, 07 November 2015 - 11:35 PM.

[seawolfnyy]

I think he'll be back. He's already backtracked on the "I'd rather slit my wrists' comments. He's contracted for one more and while I think the film does end nicely for his exit, I think it's more likely being set up for the next film, when you-know-who inevitably escapes.

[Matt_13]

MGW recently said that there isn't a contract, actually. Hard to tell if he'll be back. It all depends how much money the film makes at the box office.

[mummyboy11]

Hum... Actually seawolfnyy, I think you have a point. That avenue of Mister B's revenge can be interesting. I mean they clearly can turn it around. It's not like - taking the words from Bond in CR - bond girls "have a long life expectancy". 

Or maybe this affair with Swann isn't that serious and they end up omitting it further along.

 

Matt_13, I'm not that convinced that DC's return will be tied up with the box office results. (or at least I don't want to be convinced LOL) I mean, Bond movies always did better than the previous one (in general). Skyfall was a huge surprise and I think having that as a measure would be a mistake. Everything went well with SF: Adele, emotional plot, Q, Moneypenny and the death of M, etc. I think Spectre may not reach 1 billion dollars. 

 

It's just that I think this wouldn't be the right time to switch actors. It doesn't feel right. I think people won't understand if they sacked DC...for what reason? (This of course, if he's willing to do one more. If he doesn't, fine!). 

[sharpshooter]

MGW recently said that there isn't a contract, actually. 

That changes things. Perhaps this really could be 50/50 as to whether he returns. 

[HoneyDiamond]

I would like him to return for a 5th, and I think he will. 

 

I didn't see the ending of Spectre to be anything more than the ending of that particular film. 

 

I don't know how the distribution rights changing hands will mean anything moving forward. 

[Gobi-1]

God I hope so. If Daniel Craig leaves I'll be satisfied with his tenure but quite frankly I'm not ready to see him go just yet.

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You just don't introduce Blofeld for a one off appearance. He must have his revenge, Blofeld escaping is the only thing that could lure Bond back to MI6.

[deth]

I didn't really think the ending was

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Bond leaving the service. It sort of made it sound like he was just off on a holiday for awhile. Even the I think the end was a bit bungled, I think they would have made a bigger deal of it if it was actually Bond retiring

 

So I can see Craig coming back without needing any plot explanation.

 

And certainly, he's actually aging quite well (better than I expected him to) ... he's got at least a couple more in him. But no more.

[plankattack]

My hunch has always been that he will. He got the co-producer credit - he is publicly credited with getting Mendes. He himself has said (on PBS's Charlie Rose show in the States) that he's really enjoying the work beyond acting itself. I suspect the attraction of having more "say" in the next film will be enough to bring him back.

If being more than "just an actor" is the career arc he's sees for himself, getting an apprenticeship on two Bonds (where he is ultimately supported by the safety net of a production that really doesn't need another producer) is the best way to form the next phase of his career.

SP is projected to do well, so with the distribution deal waiting to be done, EON (and to a lesser extent, the cast and staff) could be set to profit in a myriad of ways. I personally believe that EON are in a stronger position with a string of big hits and the promise of the same team returning; breaking in a new Bond could be a convenient sticking point for a studio looking for a better deal - "Hey - who's your new guy?" Or "so and so" has proved he's box office" etc etc.

DC's presence will be a line item in that negotiation to come. EON know it, potential studio suitors know it, and he must know it. IMHO, there's no decision on his next move until the distribution issue is settled.

[coco1997]

Every Bond actor has done a different number of films. Five films is a nice solid legacy to leave behind especially with the next one being the twenty-fifth entry in the franchise. 

[Trevelyan 006]

Oh, but he can't leave... The story isn't quite over yet. There's still a garden he's to visit. 

 

In all seriousness, I believe we will see Craig don the tux once more. Any more than that would be wishful thinking, I'd imagine. A producing credit can be spotted in SPECTRE for old Danny boy, so with him financially invested in the franchise at this point, I refuse to believe he'll just be packing up and going home.

 

James Bond may believe he's done, but we all know better than that!

Edited by Trevelyan 006, 08 November 2015 - 04:42 AM.

[casinoroyale75]

I think he will stay for two more, at least. I just read an article where the producers believe he's a lock for the next movie, just hasn't signed the contract yet. He seems reinvigorated as of late (press appearances, interviews, etc.). Can't imagine Bond without him.

[sharpshooter]

One more film is all I would be asking for. I'm not ready to say goodbye to this era just yet. While Daniel Craig is still young enough, I just feel he's thoroughly deserving of another. Get Waltz and the gang back, and then call it a day. If Craig's unsure even about doing Bond 25, I can't see him committing to 26.

[Double-Oh Agent]

Every Bond actor has done a different number of films. Five films is a nice solid legacy to leave behind especially with the next one being the twenty-fifth entry in the franchise. 

Yeah I believe Daniel Craig will do one more. The story from SPECTRE will and should continue into Bond 25 and that should conclude matters regarding the Craig Bond storyline. I think it's entirely possible/probable that EON and company will want him to return for a sixth film, but I'm not as convinced that Craig will want to do that. Personally, I hope he does one more and then we get Bond #7.

[coco1997]

I can't see Craig going any further than one more film. By the time the next one rolls around, he'll be at least 50 years old. Although Craig has aged well, I don't want another Roger Moore in AVTAK situation once he gets into his mid-50s. 

[tdalton]

Unless SPECTRE absolutely blows me away whenever I get around to seeing it (reviews don't sound promising, though), I think I'm OK with this being the end of the Craig era. I would hope with the newfound goodwill that EON has built up with the general public, that they'll actually set out to craft a story arc for the next Bond (or at least have a vague idea as to where things are going to go) rather than going by the seat of their pants with each successive film and then trying to recon things later that were never meant to be retconned.

[casinoroyale75]

I think Craig has the role for as long as he wants. BB has said as much. Craig concludes the arc started in 24 with 25, then (ideally, for me) I'd like to see him on two regular missions. The last Craig film featuring him training a replacement 007, who turns on him, and the "old lion" shows who is king of the jungle. Just me ranting, but that's what I'd like to see. The middle film you ask? Something totally original with no references to the past and very "gag" free. Also like to see it set in the U.S. One of the three must be named Risico (preferably the last one )

[Walecs]

The last Craig film featuring him training a replacement 007, who turns on him, and the "old lion" shows who is king of the jungle.

 

No.

[Harmsway]

I think Craig has the role for as long as he wants. BB has said as much. Craig concludes the arc started in 24 with 25, then (ideally, for me) I'd like to see him on two regular missions.

He's already looking quite old. He'd be looking ancient if he does three more.

Craig should only do one more.

[Dustin]

One more, I think. And a lot, according to the interview in THR, will probably depend on who's going to strike a deal with MGM. Literally everything's possible from there.

[deth]

 

I think Craig has the role for as long as he wants. BB has said as much. Craig concludes the arc started in 24 with 25, then (ideally, for me) I'd like to see him on two regular missions.

He's already looking quite old. He'd be looking ancient if he does three more.

Craig should only do one more.

 

 

personally I thought he looked less aged in this compared with Skyfall.

[Hockey Mask]

From the interviews on the talk shows he sounds like he will be coming back.

[TheREAL008]

Daniel Craig said on Charlie Rose that he wasn't finished. I think he'll do one more. Which is cool because I want him to tie with Sir Sean.

(NSNA does NOT count)

[JohnnyWalker]

I believe so, yes.

[deth]

Daniel Craig said on Charlie Rose that he wasn't finished. I think he'll do one more. Which is cool because I want him to tie with Sir Sean.

(NSNA does NOT count)

 

 

Well then he'd still have to do 2... Connery did 6.

[Pushkin]

I could handle Craig being around for another 3 films. While he is approaching 50, he looks great and my suspicion is that he will age better than either Moore or Brosnan (he was 49 I believe in DAD but did not look nearly as good as Craig - and I don't dislike Brosnan). If he were to stick around for 6 or 7 films, it would allow them to explore the aging issue a bit more. I don't think SPECTRE will do as well as Skyfall but I suspect it will do very well. 

[Dustin]

I think another 3 films is not realistic any more, even if Craig looked like 38 now. There will be pressure from the studios to retain that vaguely mid-30s persona of Bond, I don't believe they are ready to sacrifice that, no matter how successful the actor may be. And today 3 more films would mean close to a further decade with him in the role. That's out of the question.

[Pushkin]

I think another 3 films is not realistic any more, even if Craig looked like 38 now. There will be pressure from the studios to retain that vaguely mid-30s persona of Bond, I don't believe they are ready to sacrifice that, no matter how successful the actor may be. And today 3 more films would mean close to a further decade with him in the role. That's out of the question.

I think if the movies keep doing well the studio will be happy. So we can agree to disagree. Having said that, my hunch is that Craig probably does not want to spend another decade doing this. If I had to guess, I think the next one is his last one.

[deth]

Has the studio actually said they want to maintain the mid-30's persona? It seems as if Skyfall in no way fits that... (or this one for that matter)

[Dustin]

I don't think it's anywhere set in stone. Yet with some licence you can ignore the actual age of the actor and pretend he's 38 going on 45. The mid-30s pretense didn't hold water after about MR trough AVTAK. And DAD likewise was stretching it. But Bond is not meant to actually age beyond, well, say 48 or so. And since studios are looking at the younger audiences as their prime target their product is supposed to remain within a certain age range, not beyond.