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Welcome James! - thoughts on 'SPECTRE' (SPOILERS)


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#31 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 01:17 PM

I'm not slating Newman at all for what he has done for the two Bond films, my only comment is that the tracks that were used to really stand out were re-jigged 'Skyfall' cues. I'd have liked fresh music to maybe connote Bond and Oberhauser's connection (akin to 'Skyfall' track) and a new action piece of music for the car-chase.
 
Just something so I didn't think about 'Skyfall' watching action.

 
But using themes is something every composer does.  Barry did it.  Williams did it.  I see no difference here.


I'm all for themes, as I find that is an obvious cue between films or characters. I admit 'Skyfall' worked when played during the Rome funeral as it made links to Bond and Oberhauser and their past probably at Skyfall Lodge.

Like 'The Force Theme' in Star Wars and Barry with the basic James Bond theme - they tie characters into a series of films.

IMO Newman should have used a new variation of the Bond theme to root 007 down in his action, and not just use cues from 'Skyfall' itself as they didn't mean anything. The action music from 'Skyfall' was good for that film, and I just wanted something new for this one.

Every Star Wars film and Bond theme have different cues for action; be it to mix their location or mood, and I felt this is where Newman lacked in 'SPECTRE' and just re-used basic cues that had gone before rather than do even more new tracks.

The BIG decider (assuming he returns with the team) is what we have in store for Bond 25.

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 12:54 AM

What's the reference to the the Hildebrand Rarity? ... must have missed it. 



#33 Vauxhall

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 01:05 AM

What's the reference to the the Hildebrand Rarity? ... must have missed it. 

 

The safe house in London: "Hildebrand Rarities".



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 01:14 AM

 

What's the reference to the the Hildebrand Rarity? ... must have missed it. 

 

The safe house in London: "Hildebrand Rarities".

 

 

 

Oh yes, of course! How did I miss it...



#35 Professor Pi

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 10:40 AM

 

 

What's the reference to the the Hildebrand Rarity? ... must have missed it. 

 

The safe house in London: "Hildebrand Rarities".

 

 

 

Oh yes, of course! How did I miss it...

 

 

Loved that part!  And now we don't have to worry about "The Hildebrand Rarity" becoming a Bond movie title either.



#36 DaveBond21

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 01:43 AM

 


 

Please do one more, Daniel. Please. 

 

 

 

I completely understand that people may feel that there's some kind of finality about SPECTRE, but if anything there's a lot in the film that points towards a continuation. The shot of Blofeld on the bridge just staring at Madeline, which clearly points towards Blofeld wanting a specific type of revenge, and then there's the ending itself which screams of On Her Majesty's Secret Service and we all know what that means. I feel that people who don't know the series that well could be totally fooled into believing that it's *clearly* Craig's final Bond film, but to the contary, even though it rounds up Craigs first three films, there's much more of a sense of it all paving the way for something much bigger, that casual audiences won't see coming.

 

 

Blofeld staring at Bond and Madeline - he was jealous. He has never had a relationship, never been in love. He realises how his life is a waste if he can't have what they have - walking off into the sunset.

 

Everything he has done to Bond over 4 movies was done because his dad looked after him!

 

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