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[Bruce Wayne]

To me, Casino Royale was a near perfect Bond movie. I liked how Martin Campbell handled the cinematography and the various camera angles.

One of the important aspects was that he gradually made Bond feel like he belonged in an upscale world. Look at how he shot the casino, but also the scene in the train where Bond meets Vesper for the first time. It felt like he was someone with the means who carries himself in that world of splendour.

I liked the lush colors of not only the Bahamas and the lake at Switzerland, but also the way he captured the interior settings as beforementioned the casino or even The Ocean Club.

You can see that Bond is a womanizer by the way he speaks with the lady at the desk about Mr. Dimitrios. Smooth and suave. A few scenes before two ladies with tennis rackets glances at Bond. Every other Bond had been glanced by ladies throughout the series.

 

Quantum of Solace was bleak, I didn't get any of those lush colors and Bond felt like he was bankrupt. Yes he looked that cheap. Still some suaveness saved it for he was a smooth operator with Fields.

 

Skyfall...some order is restored in giving Bond his high-class look. But oh no, what happened in the Macao scene!?! Everything is literally orange!

This to me is the greatest distraction in the last Bond movie. The whole movie has every night scene drenched with the orange filter. Especially the Macao scene which is a bloody shame. You have so much detail here and colors that are completely going to ruins.

 

Now, in the early trailers of Spectre, I again see this orange color grading again predominantly in night scenes. This will greatly detract me from the movies story.

Why oh why does Sam Mendes want this! Take a look at this page:

https://yearlaterevi.../11/09/skyfall/

 

Please give Bond back his suaveness and smoothness in color!

[Walecs]

I share your feelings regarding Quantum of Solace and I hope that SPECTRE will be similar to CR and less orange-ish.

[Mr_Wint]

This thing with heavy color grading (=teal and orange) is a trend in Hollywood right now and it is not likely to go away just yet. It is much cheaper to do films this way (no need to worry about color matching on the set if all colors are removed in post-processing).

[dirtymind]

I'm not a fan of the orange color grading. I mean, look at the trailer. The sky is supposed to blue, not yellow/brown/orange.

Edited by dirtymind, 21 August 2015 - 04:46 PM.

[Hansen]

Go back ro CR black & white

[DaveBond21]

I thought that this thread was going to be about how "personal" this Bond movie looks like it's going to be.

[SecretAgentFan]

To me, Casino Royale was a near perfect Bond movie. I liked how Martin Campbell handled the cinematography and the various camera angles.

One of the important aspects was that he gradually made Bond feel like he belonged in an upscale world. Look at how he shot the casino, but also the scene in the train where Bond meets Vesper for the first time. It felt like he was someone with the means who carries himself in that world of splendour.

I liked the lush colors of not only the Bahamas and the lake at Switzerland, but also the way he captured the interior settings as beforementioned the casino or even The Ocean Club.

You can see that Bond is a womanizer by the way he speaks with the lady at the desk about Mr. Dimitrios. Smooth and suave. A few scenes before two ladies with tennis rackets glances at Bond. Every other Bond had been glanced by ladies throughout the series.

 

Quantum of Solace was bleak, I didn't get any of those lush colors and Bond felt like he was bankrupt. Yes he looked that cheap. Still some suaveness saved it for he was a smooth operator with Fields.

 

Skyfall...some order is restored in giving Bond his high-class look. But oh no, what happened in the Macao scene!?! Everything is literally orange!

This to me is the greatest distraction in the last Bond movie. The whole movie has every night scene drenched with the orange filter. Especially the Macao scene which is a bloody shame. You have so much detail here and colors that are completely going to ruins.

 

Now, in the early trailers of Spectre, I again see this orange color grading again predominantly in night scenes. This will greatly detract me from the movies story.

Why oh why does Sam Mendes want this! Take a look at this page:

https://yearlaterevi.../11/09/skyfall/

 

Please give Bond back his suaveness and smoothness in color!

 

So, anything else - the story, the actors, the editing, the score - won´t interest you more than the color grading of the images?

[Bruce Wayne]

Of course, everything you mentioned - the story, the actors, the editing, the score, will interest me. I've been an avid James Bond fan for over 35 years now.

But this color grading thing just distracts me the most. Therefore I mentioned Casino Royale, in which I found it less intrusive.

 

Let me elaborate a bit more why I think SPECTRE will be disappointing to me.

 

The score - The last two movies used the classic James Bond theme very, very sparingly. QoS' score didn't fit well within the movie. Skyfall also had little variation to my taste.

Again, and this might sound repetitive, in CR, you could distinctly hear that they took the score and made it into this almost grand classical theme and it worked beautifully. for example, look at the scene where he gets his Aston Martin and says "I love you to M".

 

The story - this is where I hope they give Bond back his allure with women and the high-class world he moves in. I mean give us a sense that he demands only the best. Even if it has to be a concoction of a device just to get the best cup of coffee (live and let die anyone), this is what sets him apart from everybody else. Otherwise you could have him running around in a t-shirt and blue jeans...and in the last couple of films I didn't get that sense that he truly seeks the best in the things he owns, you know the way he carries himself.

Personally, and I think a lot of people will disagree with me on this one, is to give Bond a little bit that bumbly, stumply look with which Sean Connerry portrayed him. If you look at those films, you see Bond escapes with the hair on his back because he is just extremely lucky with a bit of wit thrown into it.

I would find it very satisfying if he finds himself in a situation he escapes of with just dumb luck and makes a witty banter about it.

 

The editing- I know the shaky cam can be very effective for making it feel 'real'. But still I hope Sam Mendes will use it sparingly. The scene between M and Bond in Skyfall where he returned and broke into her apartment, I found the shaky cam very distracting.

 

The dialogues - Skyfall actually had a few good scenes where the dialogue stood out. Silva's monologue about rats in a barrel. Brilliantly done! I hope they can continue this in SPECTRE.

 

At the end of the day I just hope we will get a good Bond movie where we can see the traits of him in his role.

[Trevelyan 006]

The dialogues - Skyfall actually had a few good scenes where the dialogue stood out. Silva's monologue about rats in a barrel. Brilliantly done! I hope they can continue this in SPECTRE.

 

At the end of the day I just hope we will get a good Bond movie where we can see the traits of him in his role.

 

When it comes to tight dialogue, I don't think we'll have too much to worry about. We've already heard one of the most memorable lines in recent memory in the trailer. I'm looking forward to more gems along the way, which is almost a guarantee. 

 

Besides, Waltz's delivery is unmatched. At the very least, we have that to look forward to!