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#31 Mark_Hazard

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 11:47 AM

And Mr. Bizwas hasn't raised his head yet.



#32 Major Tallon

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 01:02 PM

They not only haven't cast the show as yet, they haven't even decided on a city to stage it in.  Even assuming they have a script, and I'm not convinced of either, there's a long way between having a product and actually mounting a show.  But if they can get a special effects man who knows his stuff, they can "bring on the twelve she-devils," and if they get a beautiful leading lady and someone to set it to music, perhaps they can "have it on Broadway by Christmas" (YOLT, chapter 19).

 

Yes, there's a Bond line for everything.



#33 Blofeld's Cat

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 05:32 AM

Well, Hugh Jackman does have the stage chops.

I must admit Jackman seems to be the best "fit" on stage as Bond, at the moment.



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Posted 08 July 2015 - 10:04 AM

Posted today from the official 007 Facebook page:

Danjaq LLC and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc confirm that have not licences any rights to Merry Saltzman or her production company to create a James Bond musical. Danjaq and MGM jointly control all live stage rights in the Bond franchise, and therefore no James Bond stage show may be produced without their permission.


That sorts that out then. 



#35 tdalton

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 10:33 AM

Good to see that this is coming to an end.  It was obvious that Saltzman hadn't "secured the rights", since there was no way that EON was going to allow this to move forward.  



#36 Major Tallon

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 10:46 AM

I can just see the headline in Variety:  "Bond Musical Hits Sour Note."



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Posted 08 July 2015 - 03:36 PM

I can just see the headline in Variety:  "Bond Musical Hits Sour Note."

 

"Thunderbawl".

 

"For Your Eyes Only - Because It'll Make Your Ears Bleed".



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Posted 08 July 2015 - 03:52 PM

 

I can just see the headline in Variety:  "Bond Musical Hits Sour Note."

 

"Thunderbawl".

 

"For Your Eyes Only - Because It'll Make Your Ears Bleed".

 

 

Or, the obvious: "Licence Revoked - Bond Musical Terminated"



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Posted 08 July 2015 - 04:02 PM

Brox Blox Saltz Schmaltz

Double-O Show a No-Go



#40 Call Billy Bob

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 05:30 PM

"Licence to Sing and Dance? Not a chance."

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 09:41 PM

And Mr. Bizwas hasn't raised his head yet.


"I was born with this unlucky sneeze, and what is worse, I came into the world the wrong way round. Pundits all agree that I am the reason why my father fell into the village pond and drowned."
 
 

They not only haven't cast the show as yet, they haven't even decided on a city to stage it in.  Even assuming they have a script, and I'm not convinced of either, there's a long way between having a product and actually mounting a show.  But if they can get a special effects man who knows his stuff, they can "bring on the twelve she-devils," and if they get a beautiful leading lady and someone to set it to music, perhaps they can "have it on Broadway by Christmas" (YOLT, chapter 19).
 
Yes, there's a Bond line for everything.


Again, you are a genius, sir.
 
 

Posted today from the official 007 Facebook page:

Danjaq LLC and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc confirm that have not licenced any rights to Merry Saltzman or her production company to create a James Bond musical. Danjaq and MGM jointly control all live stage rights in the Bond franchise, and therefore no James Bond stage show may be produced without their permission.


Fantastic. Official confirmation.
 
 

Good to see that this is coming to an end.  It was obvious that Saltzman hadn't "secured the rights", since there was no way that EON was going to allow this to move forward.


Probable, but not obvious.

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 10:15 PM

Brox Blox Saltz Schmaltz

Double-O Show a No-Go

-a-go-go.



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Posted 08 July 2015 - 10:31 PM

Seriously though, what the hell made them think they could put on this show!?



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 12:21 AM

Seriously though, what the hell made them think they could put on this show!?

Needed to get their name into the papers and on the websites. There weren't to many Google results for "Merry Saltzman" before this story. Probably some other project in the works that needs a little extra PR on the side...

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 04:12 AM

 

Seriously though, what the hell made them think they could put on this show!?

Needed to get their name into the papers and on the websites. There weren't to many Google results for "Merry Saltzman" before this story. Probably some other project in the works that needs a little extra PR on the side...

 

Yeah, most likely. Maybe a biog on Harry?



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

Merry Saltzman responds to the disclaimer from EON/MGM:

"We are producing a parody, no permissive rights are required from Eon, Danjaq, MGM et al to produce our show; it will not infringe on their intellectual property.

"Eon, Danjaq, and MGM's statements are accurate as far as they go. [My company] Placeholder Productions' and my statements are also accurate. Placeholder did not claim to have purchased rights to a stage production from Eon et al (nor did we intend to imply we had).

"Placeholder did (and did claim to) purchase rights to a James Bond musical parody written by Dave Clarke with music and lyrics by Jay Henry Weisz.

"The key word here is 'parody'. Parody, the courts have repeatedly upheld, is fully protected under the fair use principle of the US Copyright Act of 1976 and, as such, does not require permission from the owners of the intellectual property being parodied."

Producers said James Bond: The Musical will have an original storyline and feature "several Bond villains, plus some new ones" as well as "our own Bond girl".


http://www.playbill....-planned-352900



#47 Major Tallon

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 03:08 PM

I rather think that a federal court is going to conclude that this purported parody is no joking matter.

 

It sounds more like "Mission Impossible" to me.



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 03:39 PM

Someone's looking for trouble.

 

"The Empire will strike back"



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:05 PM

Oddly, I figured this would be the only angle they could take. Have some experience in entertainment law and copyright law, the Parody factor had to come into play on this as it's the only venue that *could* be exploited.

 

As is my understanding however, the Parody statute does hold water, within the context of such, it's only upon agreement by the party being parodied (i.e. - Like Weird Al doing a song - Before he can, an agreement with the artist or rights holders has to be agreed to) and the same goes for films that mock any big property. Hence, you have the right to do it as an original work, but you still have to clear it.

 

Eon and/or IFP aren't going to go for this.



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:15 PM

As is my understanding however, the Parody statute does hold water, within the context of such, it's only upon agreement by the party being parodied (i.e. - Like Weird Al doing a song - Before he can, an agreement with the artist or rights holders has to be agreed to) and the same goes for films that mock any big property. Hence, you have the right to do it as an original work, but you still have to clear it.

I've read and listened to multiple interviews with Weird Al where he states that he's not required by law to get artist permission - he just does it as a personal courtesy. Though I could be mistaken.

#51 Major Tallon

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 07:23 PM

They can try and pass it off as a parody if they like, but if they're using the Bond name, the number 007, the Secret Service background, the concept of the Bond girl, the notion of Bond being sent on missions for the British government, and the actual names of Bond villains, they're creating a new, original work incorporating critical elements of the world of James Bond, a character they don't own, and I'll venture that it'll take more than adding a few jokes to have it deemed a permitted parody under the Copyright Act.



#52 New Digs

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 07:32 PM

They can try and pass it off as a parody if they like, but if they're using the Bond name, the number 007, the Secret Service background, the concept of the Bond girl, the notion of Bond being sent on missions for the British government, and the actual names of Bond villains, they're creating a new, original work starring James Bond, a character they don't own, and I'll venture that it'll take more than adding a few jokes to have it deemed a permitted parody under the Copyright Act.

 

 

I think that is right. I for one would not invest my money on anything that is associated with the EON series and the cinematic conception of James Bond without securing the requisite permission, parody or no parody. 



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 08:57 PM

They can try and pass it off as a parody if they like, but if they're using the Bond name, the number 007, the Secret Service background, the concept of the Bond girl, the notion of Bond being sent on missions for the British government, and the actual names of Bond villains, they're creating a new, original work incorporating critical elements of the world of James Bond, a character they don't own, and I'll venture that it'll take more than adding a few jokes to have it deemed a permitted parody under the Copyright Act.


I support your interpretation. Further, I question to what extent can a parody get away with being a parody. If, say, this were a stage parody of many famous fictional creations, then I suspect that the show's producers may have an easier time claiming parody especially if Bond only briefly appears and the context is clearly parody. If it were a five minute sketch, again, I suspect the show's producers could get away with it - think of all the tv shows that have parodied Bond and done so by name and in person. But when it's a full-scale two-hour show all about Bond, then I see the project hitting shaky ground.

Besides, who has deeper pockets? Hint: it ain't Merry Saltzman.

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 09:00 PM

I agree, Glidrose.  I think the length and standalone nature of the work are likely to be important components of the question of whether this is a parody, or a violation of Dajaq's intellectual property rights.



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Posted 09 July 2015 - 09:03 PM

Now I´m even more sure that this thing will never happen or flop instantly.

 

Merry Salesman must be terribly angry at EON and starved for cash.

 

In any event, she will not be allowed to use the name James Bond or any other name in that universe.  Or is this a "Johnny English"-musical?



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Posted 10 July 2015 - 12:40 AM

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 02:13 AM

 

As is my understanding however, the Parody statute does hold water, within the context of such, it's only upon agreement by the party being parodied (i.e. - Like Weird Al doing a song - Before he can, an agreement with the artist or rights holders has to be agreed to) and the same goes for films that mock any big property. Hence, you have the right to do it as an original work, but you still have to clear it.

I've read and listened to multiple interviews with Weird Al where he states that he's not required by law to get artist permission - he just does it as a personal courtesy. Though I could be mistaken.

 

Well, Weird Al is sort of a badge of honor for many music artists. But, it's not so much rewriting the lyrics, but the use of the music that has to be addressed even if it's a cover band providing it. 

 

 

They can try and pass it off as a parody if they like, but if they're using the Bond name, the number 007, the Secret Service background, the concept of the Bond girl, the notion of Bond being sent on missions for the British government, and the actual names of Bond villains, they're creating a new, original work incorporating critical elements of the world of James Bond, a character they don't own, and I'll venture that it'll take more than adding a few jokes to have it deemed a permitted parody under the Copyright Act.

 

Exactly. Bond is all but public domain in some respects. *IF* (big bloody "IF" ) a bunch of us Bond geeks wanted to pursue something like this, we'd damn well get our DB5's in line and find out "If" we could before touting it. Most skits or references in films and TV shows are original and done in the sense of "homage" and/or parody. Hell, I know I've seen two in the last week on primetime. The Simpsons episode "You Only Move Twice" is awesome. The SNL skit with Steve Martin "Bullets Aren't Cheap" equally fun. 

 

But a whole "Broadway Show" is just a pipe dream. BB and MGW are going to squash this.



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Posted 10 July 2015 - 05:16 AM

I suppose Merry Saltzman could create a "spy musical", a parody of the entire superspy genre adapted for the stage. That might even be a fun idea. But this feels like an attempt by a lazy nobody to cash in on daddy's legacy. Once that angle is foreclosed, I see her slithering away. 



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Posted 10 July 2015 - 11:44 PM

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 03:15 PM

I've been pretty forthright in stating that this musical won't happen, but in the spirit of the Den of Geek article, I decided to suggest a selection of song titles (and hopefully not just silly ones) for a show in the extraordinarily unlikely event such a production were to be licensed and staged.  So here goes:

 

1.  The name's Bond, James Bond.

2.  Moneypenny, you look lovely.

3.  Eyes only.

4.  Good old Q (big production number).

5.  With my Walther PPK.

6.  Everything that glisters is gold.

7.  The Spectre in your eyes.

8.  Shaken, not stirred.  (Comic relief --                                                                                  Waiter:

                                                                                                                        A glass of red wine, sir?    

                                                                                                                                              

                                                                                                                                                Bond:

                                                                                                                                                               Don't be absurd;

                                                                                                                       A dry martini, shaken, not stirred.             )

9.   Domino

10, Finale:  Keep the British end up;

                   The name's Bond, James Bond (Reprise);

                   The James Bond Theme (Instrumental; film version).

 

 

OK, anybody got any contributions?