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[George White]

WIshful thinking, what if Moore made n 8th Bond if only to break Connery's record. Yes, he may have been 60 if it had been made, But I'd still like to see it in my dreams.

 

My idea.

Title - Risico, the Hildebrand Rarity

Tagline - Bond's Last Stand  

Vague plot - ending Moore's Bond career with a whimper. Begins with Bond placed on a suicide mission leading a bunch of younger operatives into a deadly raid. When they are split, Bond must carry on and fight for Britain. He returns to Mi6, who think of him as too old. Moneypenny's about to leave, Bond has to prove that he is able, and to rescue the 

Setting - Eastern Europe, perhaps .

Cast ideas are welcome. 

Villain - I had the idea of having Lewis Collins perhaps as Bond's treacherous second in command and supposed heir, Ian Stock, who betrays him and turns out seemingly to be a double agent, but is in fact an independent psychopath with eyes on taking Bond's crown for himself. 

[George White]

Girl - maybe an older actress, Vanessa Redgrave or someone of that vintage -  to show that Bond is on his last legs or perhaps a returning character. 

Campery  - relaxed, but still some humour. Q has become independent, sub-contracted to MI6, Q-Branch now based in a  large country manor. 

Ending - Bond, having killed Stock in a Carpathian clock tower drop flees with the surviving agents back through the Iron Curtain. The villain, no longer Stock but Russia (perhaps have Gogol seen as a kind of possible red herring) try to stop them, but Gogol reveals his true colours and eventually orders help, help who are initially not willing. Bond finally arrives in  London, and admits he's been screwed up by MI6, who could have sent their KGB allies. M basically is now Blofeld, in a ball-chair, with a (black) cat, feeding it milk from a saucer. Bond asks for his licence to be revoked. M refuses, saying that Bond will accept his calling again. Bond sniffs, and leaves to have dinner with the love interest. 

[Mr. Arlington Beech]

WIshful thinking, what if Moore made n 8th Bond if only to break Connery's record.

Moore did break Connery's record, NSNA it's not a proper James Bond movie, at least imo.

[glidrose]

Girl - maybe an older actress, Vanessa Redgrave or someone of that vintage

Why not Lillian Gish?

[George White]

indeed. Or Bette Davis grrrrr....

Roger is attracted to older women - see his marriage to Dorothy  Squires...

[Professor Pi]

I'm a Moore fan, but I'd rather have seen Dalton be given an earlier shot, or Sam Neil do Octopussy and A View to A Kill than have an 8th Moore film. 

[thecasinoroyale]

Whatever it may be, I would have easily seen Roger Moore do one more Bond. I found him fine and dandy in 'A View To A Kill', and maybe if he did an 8th it could have openly worked around his age BUT if the character of Bond is almost meant to be the same character, it would have been even more difficult to work from such an old age to a younger one.

 

Saying that, a 2 year transition from Roger Moore to Timothy Dalton regardless of age is a big leap anyway so I guess age wouldn't matter in the long run as long as 007 still dishes out his trademark style, wit and violence!

 

Love the Lewis Collins idea as the villain, a proper maniac and cut from 'The Professionals' image.

[tdalton]

I'm a Moore fan, but I'd rather have seen Dalton be given an earlier shot, or Sam Neil do Octopussy and A View to A Kill than have an 8th Moore film. 

 

Agreed, although I do like Moore's later films (from For Your Eyes Only onward) much more than his earlier films.  An eighth film would have simply been too many.

[glidrose]

I really like AVTAK, but even that was one film too many for ol' Rog.

[FlemingBond]

it was my understanding that when TLD was written they weren't sure who would play the part, so I'm thinking if Moore had returned it still might have been TLD that was the movie.

[Grard Bond]

Yes, and he would have been sitting on the flying carpet! No question about it!

[Guy Haines]

Roger Moore looked very well at the end of Octopussy, and I liked the ending as he and the leading lady rowed off into the sunset. That would have been a perfect send off. A View To a Kill was, I think, one movie too many. He looked older in that film, and was up against two much younger villains. It didn't look a good comparison.

 

I don't think an eighth Bond film for Roger Moore would have been a good idea, unless as a "brought out of retirement" scenario, and I'm not sure how you could do a Bond film with 007 as an agent lined up for "one last mission" and still continue the series. And I would argue that for any of the actors who have played Bond, not just Sir Roger. There comes a point when it is time to move on, however much fans and audiences might want someone to continue.

[ChickenStu]

 

WIshful thinking, what if Moore made n 8th Bond if only to break Connery's record.

Moore did break Connery's record, NSNA it's not a proper James Bond movie, at least imo.

 

 

That film IS based on a Fleming story. I don't count it as an official member of the series - but it is still supposed to be the same character Connery played originally. By that rationale, I class Connery and Moore as tied. 

[glidrose]

it was my understanding that when TLD was written they weren't sure who would play the part, so I'm thinking if Moore had returned it still might have been TLD that was the movie.

Not true. Hence the Maibaum and Wilson unfilmed treatment about Bond joining the service.

 

WIshful thinking, what if Moore made n 8th Bond if only to break Connery's record.

Moore did break Connery's record, NSNA it's not a proper James Bond movie, at least imo.

 
That film IS based on a Fleming story. I don't count it as an official member of the series - but it is still supposed to be the same character Connery played originally. By that rationale, I class Connery and Moore as tied.

I side with CS here. Tho' NSNA is an awful botch of a film, it is a real Bond film and therefore part of the series unlike CR'67.

 

Roger Moore looked very well at the end of Octopussy, and I liked the ending as he and the leading lady rowed off into the sunset. That would have been a perfect send off. A View To a Kill was, I think, one movie too many. He looked older in that film, and was up against two much younger villains. It didn't look a good comparison.

You've said this several times and you are 100% correct, sir.

 

I don't think an eighth Bond film for Roger Moore would have been a good idea, unless as a "brought out of retirement" scenario, and I'm not sure how you could do a Bond film with 007 as an agent lined up for "one last mission" and still continue the series. And I would argue that for any of the actors who have played Bond, not just Sir Roger. There comes a point when it is time to move on, however much fans and audiences might want someone to continue.

You are again correct, sir. Worse, RM is the actor least likely to satisfactorily play a Bond "brought out of retirement" precisely because he's the least rugged of the actors.

[Janus Assassin]

I do like the idea, but I don't think it would have worked. I was watching AVTAK recently and some scenes Roger looks good such as the chateau party and the break in Zorins lab. But one scene always gets me and it's when him and Lee are on the wharf talking about Zorin and he just looks like a grandpa. If they were to do a return film, Pierce would be better suited for a comeback/come out of retirement role. 

[S K Y F A L L]

Bad Idea IMO. 

 

7 is the magic number. Each series should be several films. 

 

The only one I would say should of done 8 is DC. Only because I loved M.G.W's idea about DC doing a Bond film every 2 years till the 60th Anniversary and surpassing Moore.  

 

BOND 23 2012 (50TH Anniversary/SF)

BOND 24 2014

BOND 25 2016

BOND 26 2018

BOND 27 2020

BOND 28 2022 (60th Anniversary) "6 Bond's 60 Years"

 

The extra film could make up for the one missing in the Dalton/Brosnan Era which is only 6. Imagine those wicked box sets 4 of 7.....

[glidrose]

The extra film could make up for the one missing in the Dalton/Brosnan Era which is only 6. Imagine those wicked box sets 4 of 7.....

Actually the Dalton/Brosnan/Lazenby era is 7. That's of course if one counts OHMSS as a real Bond film... Does anybody?

[00 Brosnan]

I liked Moore in the role, but I really couldn't see him in an 8th film. I don't think there was anywhere else he could take the character or much else the producers could do with him in the role. After AVTAK, it's painfully obvious a change in direction was needed.

[Guy Haines]

I'm puzzled, glidrose. In what sense is OHMSS not a real Bond film? It's based on an Ian Fleming novel - more closely than many - has all the requisite elements - girls, villains, cars, action, plus "that theme" - and of course it features James Bond as the lead character. True, the actor playing Bond lasted only one movie, but it is still, in my humble opinion very much a Bond film. One of the best, in fact, and the first I ever saw.

[glidrose]

I'm puzzled, glidrose. In what sense is OHMSS not a real Bond film? It's based on an Ian Fleming novel - more closely than many - has all the requisite elements - girls, villains, cars, action, plus "that theme" - and of course it features James Bond as the lead character. True, the actor playing Bond lasted only one movie, but it is still, in my humble opinion very much a Bond film. One of the best, in fact, and the first I ever saw.

Sorry, forgot to include the appropriate smiley

[Guy Haines]

And I had a sudden and unexpected irony failure!

[hilly]

If only he had called it a day after Octopussy...

 

Having said that, AVTAK was weak in so many areas ( casting- although not Christopher Walken,derivative script , painful comedy and dull action sequences) that any incumbent would have struggled to make it work...

[MooseWithFleas]

Here's Moore in 1987, 

 

I know makeup can do wonders, but I just don't think he would be believable. AVTAK was already pushing it, which Roger later admitted. I love Roger and he's my favorite Bond, but he went out at the right time.

[Colossus]

He's my fav Bond too, and honestly though i would have had no problem seeing him do TLD hahah!