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[Pushkin]

Personally, I don't see this happening ... But here's the rumour:

http://www.cinemable...lain-41615.html

[TheREAL008]

I like Travolta, this would be cool with me.

[SecretAgentFan]

What´s this "direction they are going in" with the villain?

[Walecs]

What´s this "direction they are going in" with the villain?

 

I bet it has to do with Blofeld or the head of Quantum.

[SecretAgentFan]

But how does Travolta fit in there?

[elizabeth]

No thank you.

[Shrublands]

"They’re going a different way with their villain in this next film"

 

Yes, this was the bit that interested me most too. He's clearly talked to Broccoli and she's said something along these lines. 

 

This could mean that they are indeed planning to have Blofeld and they have specify ideas that would preclude Travoter, obviously.

Or perhaps, the villain is a woman or perhaps something else entirely.

[SecretAgentFan]

Or... he just tried to drum up business by inventing something like that.

 

Don´t get me wrong - I have nothing against Travolta, I like him in roles which suit him.  And maybe Sam Mendes is seeing something in him that will transform him into a great Bond baddie.

 

But right now, it seems very unlikely.  

 

I do believe that Bond 24 will have a female villain.  It seems like the next natural step, after terminating the female "M".  And it would create a new and potentially interesting dynamic between Bond and his nemesis.

 

Oh, wait - TWINE already had one.  But if they made Blofeld a woman?  Heck, that´s why Travolta is in the race (see "Hairspray").  They probably want to do a DAF remake!

[Odd Jobbies]

In a recent interview John Travolta has said that he told Barbara Broccoli how much he'd love to be a Bond Villain. Whilst she apparently loved the idea, she told him:

 

 

“They’re going a different way with their villain in this next film..."

 

 

So was she giving old Johnny the polite brush off, or is there truth to this?

 

If so, then just how far in 'a different way'  are they going?

 

Is it simply that the next villain won't be an Italian American with a recent  penchant for playing villains with strangely painted on facial hair and dodgy Eastern European accents?

 

Or, is the next villain perhaps someone very young, or very old, or very 'English', or most likely, a woman ?

 

Time will tell of course, but maybe this is our first reveal about the nature of Bond 24....

 

Here's the article:

 

John Travolta on his desire to play a Bond villain | Den of Geek

 

 

Oh, and as for Travolta as a villain, despite what i said above he'd probably be quite good (Pulp Fiction, Broken Arrow, Swordfish). And in the little seen 2013 survival thriller Killing Season  he holds his own against Robert De Niro. Travolta is aan avenging villain with (you guessed it) a dodgy Eastern European accent and strange facial hair.

He wouldn't be the worst Blofeld out there - he can do sinister pretty well - and he'd finally be able to dispense with the rumoured wig:  win - win situation!

 

 

Mods: Didn't realise this was already a thread. Thanks for moving this into it.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 12 February 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[Pushkin]

I just can't see him being the main villain or the henchman. Perhaps if he were willing to take on more of a character role that was associated with the villain it could work. But right now, I am not enthused by the idea.

[tdalton]

There are certainly worse actors that they could choose for the villain.  Then again, there are also better actors that they could choose as well.

 

Hopefully this talk about them "going in a different direction" means that we're getting a female villain.  We've never really had a true female villain.  The only female villains we've had have been co-villains along with a male villain who was either an equal or higher-ranking villain (Klebb/Grant and Bunt/Blofeld) or made to look like the main villain (Elektra/Renard).  It's about time we had a female villain who is known to be the villain of the piece from the outset and there's no question as to the fact that she's the one in charge.

[Odd Jobbies]

It's about time we had a female villain who is known to be the villain of the piece from the outset and there's no question as to the fact that she's the one in charge.

 

Well Blofeld is known to be the villain from the outset and there's no questioning his authority....  So could we be getting a female Blofeld (now the rights have cleared) ?

 

 

ETA: Casting a woman might help to get Eon around the problem of Blofeld having become a joke thanks to Austin Powers - put a fresh spin on it.

 

Personally i'd prefer them to keep Blofeld's balls, so to speak, and simply cast an excellent actor and give him great dialogue, but this does kind of add up, just a little.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 12 February 2014 - 07:40 PM.

[tdalton]

 

It's about time we had a female villain who is known to be the villain of the piece from the outset and there's no question as to the fact that she's the one in charge.

 

Well Blofeld is known to be the villain from the outset and there's no questioning his authority....  So could we be getting a female Blofeld (now the rights have cleared) ?

 

 

Do we know that Blofeld is the villain of Bond 24?

[Odd Jobbies]

 

 

It's about time we had a female villain who is known to be the villain of the piece from the outset and there's no question as to the fact that she's the one in charge.

 

Well Blofeld is known to be the villain from the outset and there's no questioning his authority....  So could we be getting a female Blofeld (now the rights have cleared) ?

 

 

Do we know that Blofeld is the villain of Bond 24?

 

Absolutely not, pure speculation on my part.

 

Just figuring that Eon have just finally won the right to use the Blofeld character and around that time something changed Mendes mind about doing Bond 24.... Pure speculation

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 12 February 2014 - 07:51 PM.

[tdalton]

I would hope that Mendes would want to put his own stamp on the franchise and deliver his own unique villain that could join the pantheon of great Bond villains rather than going back to something that has been done over, and over, and over again as Blofeld has been.

[thecasinoroyale]

I have to say that every film I've seen with Travolta playing the villain, I'm always impressed and enjoy his portrayal.

 

From 'Face/Off', to 'The Taking Of Pelham 123', his puts enough bang into his villains and certainly seems to have passion for creating a memorable character, so I'd gladly see him involved with the Bond team.

 

[Shrublands]

Or... he just tried to drum up business by inventing something like that.

 

Don´t get me wrong - I have nothing against Travolta, I like him in roles which suit him.  And maybe Sam Mendes is seeing something in him that will transform him into a great Bond baddie.

 

But right now, it seems very unlikely.  

 

I do believe that Bond 24 will have a female villain.  It seems like the next natural step, after terminating the female "M".  And it would create a new and potentially interesting dynamic between Bond and his nemesis.

 

Oh, wait - TWINE already had one.  But if they made Blofeld a woman?  Heck, that´s why Travolta is in the race (see "Hairspray").  They probably want to do a DAF remake!

 

I think the whole point of the quote "They’re going a different way with their villain in this next film" is that Travolta is NOT being considered for the villain in Bond 24. 

[SecretAgentFan]

True.  I was just messing around there.

 

But hey, thanks to Travolta we got at least a glimpse of news about BOND 24.

 

A different way with the villain.

 

Now, what could that be?

 

A woman?  Not one villain but many?  Hey, if comic book heroes can have a league of villains to fight off...

 

Sorry, still messing around.

[Odd Jobbies]

I would hope that Mendes would want to put his own stamp on the franchise and deliver his own unique villain that could join the pantheon of great Bond villains rather than going back to something that has been done over, and over, and over again as Blofeld has been.

I thought Mendes did that already with Silva (one of the best villain in the franchise).

 

He's said he has always been a big Bond fan, which means he may have emotional attachment to staples such as Blofeld (as i imagine do most of us here).

 

If so, i can see the opportunity to give us his version of Blofeld being very attractive to him.

 

I think the whole point of the quote "They’re going a different way with their villain in this next film" is that Travolta is NOT being considered for the villain in Bond 24. 

 

 

IMO it reads that a 'different direction'  means someone Travolta couldn't  play. Most likely answer to that is a woman.

 

Like i said in my first post here, the statement could've just been Barbara trying to be polite after Travolta put her on the spot, but Travolta doesn't seem to think so.

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 13 February 2014 - 09:57 AM.

[Shrublands]

Yep, it's not much to go on but I can't help thinking that we are looking at the possibility of a female villain or Blofeld.

Anyway, it's something to prompt a bit of speculation. 

[tdalton]

 

I would hope that Mendes would want to put his own stamp on the franchise and deliver his own unique villain that could join the pantheon of great Bond villains rather than going back to something that has been done over, and over, and over again as Blofeld has been.

I thought Mendes did that already with Silva (one of the best villain in the franchise).

 

He's said he has always been a big Bond fan, which means he may have emotional attachment to staples such as Blofeld (as i imagine do most of us here).

 

If so, i can see the opportunity to give us his version of Blofeld being very attractive to him.

 

 

Saying that they are big fans of Bond is pretty much a standard practice for the Bond directors as of late.  I really don't put much stock into it when they say it, as they're certainly not going to take the job and then state to the media that they don't really like the character and/or the series.

 

As for Silva, any memorability rests on the shoulders of Javier Bardem.  Bardem gives a heck of a performance, but I think he's one of the more overrated characters in the series (Silva, that is), given that he doesn't appear all that much in Skyfall and has a scheme that is so reliant on unlikely coincidences that it's very difficult to take seriously.  As memorable as he may end up being for the majority of Bond fans, I really believe that Mendes can do better, and I hope that he tries to outdo himself with the next villain rather than giving us yet another version of Blofeld.  

[S K Y F A L L]

He's just trying to hitch his wagon to Bond's star. I don't see what he could do that 10 other better actors could do. 

 

No thank you Gease Lighting.

 

Going to watch 'The General's Daughter' and 'Swordfish'. Also 'Basic' which I don't believe I've seen yet.

[The Shark]

IMO it reads that a 'different direction'  means someone Travolta couldn't  play. Most likely answer to that is a woman.

 

Never say never...

 

[SecretAgentFan]

He's just trying to hitch his wagon to Bond's star. I don't see what he could do that 10 other better actors could do. 

 

No thank you Gease Lighting.

 

Going to watch 'The General's Daughter' and 'Swordfish'. Also 'Basic' which I don't believe I've seen yet.

 

Greased Lightning, please.  And that was the car in that wonderful movie.

[Odd Jobbies]

This seemed like a pretty big piece of news to me. But either way, is there a reason why this story didn't make front page while it was getting more attention than other front page stories?  

 

Usually a new comment bumps a thread to the top of the front page, or have i got that wrong?  Anyone care to enlighten me of the CBN mechanics of it, thanks? 

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 15 February 2014 - 11:09 AM.

[SecretAgentFan]

I would not consider this real news about BOND 24, I´m afraid.  To put it on the main page would give it more power than it deserves.

 

Let´s face it:  Neither EON nor SONY nor any of the major players (Daniel Craig, John Logan, Sam Mendes) commented on or said something about John Travolta.

 

It was just Travolta claiming to have gotten together with Barbara Broccoli and expressing an interest in playing a Bond villain.

 

But John, if you really want to get on our main page, you have to give us more proof, alright?

[Odd Jobbies]

I would not consider this real news about BOND 24, I´m afraid.  To put it on the main page would give it more power than it deserves.

 

Absolutely right, this isn't news til it's confirmed. I didn't mean the 'News' part of the front page - sorry for confusing that - what i meant was the 'Latest Discussion Posts' part of the front page, below the 'Intercepted Headlines'.

 

It seems to me that a reply to any discussion in the forums bumps that thread to the top of the Latest Discussion Posts section, as it should. But not, it seems this thread.

 

ETA: BTW, thanks for the reply

Edited by Odd Jobbies, 15 February 2014 - 02:11 PM.

[Krest]

I think we can safely say this won't happen.  These ridiculous rumours are trotted out every other Bond year.

 

I seem to remember Whoopi Goldberg being touted as the next villain back in the early 90s for the then "Bond 17"!!

 

Bring on the Blofeld return :-))

[SecretAgentFan]

 

I would not consider this real news about BOND 24, I´m afraid.  To put it on the main page would give it more power than it deserves.

 

Absolutely right, this isn't news til it's confirmed. I didn't mean the 'News' part of the front page - sorry for confusing that - what i meant was the 'Latest Discussion Posts' part of the front page, below the 'Intercepted Headlines'.

 

It seems to me that a reply to any discussion in the forums bumps that thread to the top of the Latest Discussion Posts section, as it should. But not, it seems this thread.

 

ETA: BTW, thanks for the reply

 

 

Sure!

[Odd Jobbies]

I think a few are getting the wrong end of the stick with the title of this thread (no offence to Pushkin).

 

There's no rumour of Travolta being a villain in B24, that's ruled out. The quote to ponder is Babs saying that they're not going in that direction. Not a rumour, just a possible clue - a first piece of jigsaw to keep in mind when other pieces start appearing.