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James Bond the psychopath?


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#1 Sark2.0

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 05:30 PM

I haven't posted in awhile, and I don't see this video posted anywhere, so I figured I'd just jump right in. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=A8md1Jdm4SE Basically, a psychologist gave out a questionaire t film critics which tests for psychopathic tendendcies and asked them to rate iconic film characters on the various metrics. Bond came out strongly as a functional psychopath. 

 

What do you all think of this? Is it accurate? What does it mean for attempts to delve deeper into Bond's psyche that we've seen in the Craig films? In regards to accuracy, I'm unsure. Bond is certainly a much darker hero than most traditions ones. Frankly, I think he would be doing basically the same job wherever he was born. If Bond is a psychopath, perhaps trying to 'plump his depths' is a mistake, as there's not a whole lot there. or at least people might not like what they see. 



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 01:28 AM

that's one of the most ridiculous thing's I've ever heard.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:16 AM

care to elaborate?

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 01:49 PM

He kills people for a living.  He uses women, yet, sometimes tries to be their knight in shining armor.  He has huge self-destructing tendencies.

 

Yep, that is psychopathic behavior.

 

And that´s what makes him such an interesting hero.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:20 PM

What a load of bollocks.

 

1. Considerable superficial charm and average or above average intelligence.

2. Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking.

3. Absence of anxiety or other “neurotic” symptoms. Considerable poise, calmness and verbal facility.

4. Unreliability, disregard for obligations, no sense of responsibility, in matters of little and great import.

5. Untruthfulness and insincerity.

6. Antisocial behavior which is inadequately motivated and poorly planned, seeming to stem from an inexplicable impulsiveness.

7. Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior.

8. Poor judgment and failure to learn from experience.

9. Pathological egocentricity. Total self-centeredness and an incapacity for real love and attachment.

10. General poverty of deep and lasting emotions.

11. Lack of any true insight; inability to see oneself as others do.

12. Ingratitude for any special considerations, kindness and trust.

13. Fantastic and objectionable behavior, after drinking and sometimes even when not drinking. Vulgarity, rudeness, quick mood shifts, pranks for facile entertainment.

14. No history of genuine suicide attempts.

15. An impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated sex life.

16. Failure to have a life plan and to live in any ordered way  (unless it is for destructive purposes or a sham).

 

4/16.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 08:48 PM

I found this http://www.counselin...ychopathy.phtml questionaire, which I attempted to answer how I imagine Bond would. Here's the questions and my answers.

 

1. I can be very smooth, engaging, charming, slick. I can give a very self-conscious and confident impression, and it is hard to make me speechless; I can talk someone into the ground if needed.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

2. I can be very self-assured, opinionated, even a braggart. Sometimes I might have an inflated view of my abilities and be cocky.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

3. I can be shrewd, crafty, sly and clever - if needed, I can also be deceptive, unscrupulous, underhanded, manipulative, and dishonest.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

4. In my life, I have repeatedly used deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for my personal gain; to be honest, often I don't have much concern for the feelings and suffering of others.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

5. I often don't feel much concern for possible losses or suffering of the persons I leave behind. Actually I feel that some of them didn't deserve it better for their dullness or the way they behaved towards myself.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

6. People have told me that I can be quite cold to others. I can be and behave very gregarious - but still, I don't have very warm feelings for the majority of people I'm surrounded with. If such feelings exist, they can pass quickly or turn into open conflict if my interests are violated.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

7. I would say that I have a lack of feelings toward people in general; and I know that some people think I am cold, inconsiderate, or call me tactless.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

8. If something goes wrong, I rarely take full responsibility but tend to manipulate or to put the blame on others to divert from my own failures.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

9. At times, I feel a strong need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation, I get bored easily. This might result in me taking chances and doing things that are risky. Carrying tasks through 'to the bitter end' or staying in the same job for a longer time can feel very difficult for me.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

10. Significant amounts of the money I have made I have made by intentionally exploiting or manipulating others. With 'classic' forms of work, I often feel a lack of motivation, a problem with my self-discipline, or to complete my responsibilities.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

11. There are times when I can't help to be irritable, annoying, impatient, to threaten others, be aggressive (verbally or physically). I already found myself in several situations when I couldn't control my anger and temper anymore, leading to serious conflicts, bans or friendships breaking up.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

12. I have failed several times to develop and execute long-term plans and goals. It would be fair to say that I live a nomadic existence and lack direction in life.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

13. Occasionally, I find myself in unpremeditated situations out of a lack of reflection or planning or consideration of the consequences of what I start with. It is hard for me to emotionally resist temptations, frustrations, and urges. I have a tendency to rash, to act unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

14. I can have hard times to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments, such as paying bills or loans, to keep up the standard of my work or contractual agreements.

DOESN'T APPLY

15. I remember lying, stealing, cheating, bullying, fire-setting or vandalizing before I was 13. By then, I also already had been drunk for the first time, or used drugs or had sex. If I had already been running away from home at (or before) that age is another reason to click 'applies'.

DOESN'T APPLY

16. Between the age of 13-18, I had problems related to crimes, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or out of a lack of a empathy.

DOESN'T APPLY

17. In my life, I already had an experience of a probation or other conditional release being revoked due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

DOESN'T APPLY

18. It is hard for me to commit to long-term relationships. Compared to others, the commitments I make are relatively inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

19. I have hard times committing to romantic relationships (or don't even want them). I have had many brief relations and affairs, and my choice in sexual partners can be very indiscriminate depending on my mood and chances. I can have several relationships at the same time - and am not shy to talk about my 'sexual conquests'. When I feel the urge to do so, I can act very enticing and convincing to 'coerce' others into sexual activity.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

20. In my life, I did many things that could be considered criminal by a court, even if I have never been arrested or convicted so far. Regardless of that, I usually feel a positive emotional kick whenever I get away without consequences.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

21. I think that I have a certain awareness of weak spots in our system and or society. Sometimes this skill comes in useful to get what I want.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

22. I often exaggerate my achievements and talents. I expect people to show respect or even accept me as superior, regardless of me having commensurate achievements or not.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

23. Sometimes, I find myself fantasizing about unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

24. I would think that I am "special" and unique. I prefer to associate with people of similar status and/or think that only they can fully understand me.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

25. Admiration is something I can never get enough of. At times, I actively look out for it and can feel bad if I don't receive it.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

26. I can be very disappointed or even angry if I am not treated the way I was expecting it or if things don't go my way / as I was expecting it.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

27. I can be quite envious of others, or sometimes I can't help the feeling that others are envious of myself.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

28. I know from myself that I can be quite arrogant and haughty at times.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

29. My behavior or the way I feel is different from what is expected or accepted in the culture I grew up in in at least 2 of the following areas:
a) the way I perceive and interpret things, people, and events
B) the range, intensity of my affects or the 'appropriateness' in the way I display my emotions
c) control over my impulses and gratification of my needs
d) the way I relate to others and handle interpersonal situations.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

30. The deviation mentioned in question #29 either feels completely justified to me - and when it doesn't, it is anything else than easy for me to take another perspective or to adapt my behavior to fit in. The deviations mentioned are not restricted to just one "triggering" stimulus but can affect a range of personal and social situations
(if you answered #29 with "doesn't apply", select it here as well).

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

31. Refering to #30, the fact that my relationships or certain situations can be affected by my difficulties to adapt, is causing me distress and/or has a diverse impact on my social environment at times.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

32. My first memories of feeling or behaving differently (as mentioned in question #29) go back to my late childhood or adolescence.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

33. I don't suffer from organic brain diseases, injuries, or dysfunctions.

YES I DON'T

34. To feel good in a group of people, I need attention - just listening for long time makes me feel uncomfortable.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

35. My interactions with others often have a sexually seductive or provocative undertone (some might see it as inappropriate).

FULLY APPLIES

36. My emotions can shift rapidly - maybe that's because as a matter of fact, they usually don't go very deep.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

37. I give lots of attention to my physical appearance to draw positive attention to myself.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

38. In my speech, I emphasize emotions and impression over detail.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

39. I tend to dramatize and exaggerate my display of emotions and can be quite theatrical.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

40. Certain circumstances or people can have a strong influence on me, to the extent that I might change my plans or goals. I'd call myself suggestible.

DOESN'T APPLY TO ME

41. Sometimes I am not sure whether the relationships I have are as intimate as I consider them to be. But then, I am not sure if I really need the full amount of depth - if I don't feel right, I might as well move on to surround myself with people who appreciate me more.

SOMEWHAT APPLIES

42. Generally, I am hungry for excitement and good entertainment, and to be honest, I love situations where I'm the center of attention.

FULLY APPLIES TO ME

 

Results are:

 

There is no clear indication that you might have a
psychopathic / antisocial personality disorder.

You reached, however, 68.75% of Factor 1 which captures the core personality traits of psychopathy that define the interpersonal and affective deficits of this personality disorder (e.g. shallow affect, superficial charm, manipulativeness, lack of empathy) and that are correlated with narcissistic personality disorder, low anxiety, low empathy, low stress reaction and low suicide risk. But Factor 1 is also associated with extraversion and positive affect - affected persons usually score high on scales of achievement and well-being, so some aspects of the personality disorder may even be beneficial for the psychopath (in terms of nondeviant social functioning or if it comes to profit from manipulation or lies).
You reached, however, 22.22% of Factor 2 which captures the traits of antisocial behavior (e.g. criminal versatility, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, poor behaviour controls, juvenile delinquency) and is associated with reactive anger, social deviance, sensation seeking, anxiety, increased risk of suicide, low socio-economic status, criminality, and impulsive violence.
You reached, however, 100.00% in other relevant traits that can indicate this personality disorder.
You might have certain traits of antisocial or psychopathic personalities but certainly not in a form that would justify a personality disorder diagnosis according to the standards.
Score: 19 of 38

 

This would indicate that Bond has some sociopathic tendencies, but not enough to diagnose a personality disorder. Like SecretAgentFan said, I think Bond's dark side makes him a much more interesting character than, say, superman.