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[JSDude1]

Now that EON and Barbara Broccoli own all the McClory rights don't you think they should fold this movie into the official series?  I rather liked it.  I know technically this is a remake of Thunderball (my favorite JB movie), but I still liked it and consider this a separate adventure.   It would either go in between Octopussy and A View to A Kill or at the end of the series if they don't want to do this.  Plus it could actually be packaged with the EON movies then!!?

 

 

[freemo]

They've owned the film itself for a few years now, haven't they?

 

I think they're more likely to bury it, or burn it and send the ashes to the four corners of the earth.

[JSDude1]

I recently purchased the JB 50 Blu-ray on Amazon (with Skyfall) and had purchased NSNA months ago, all I know is that I will keep it with my EON collection.

[Bond... Raybond]

As someone once said (like it or loathe it) NSNA is an official Bond film. The guys who made it had the rights to do so. It's just is not an Eon Bond film - everything about it screams its difference. I remember liking it when it was released, even preferring it to Octopussy (I was 9 at the time), but time has not been kind to it and now it is just a curio for me.

 

Having said all that, it could only be counted as part of the Eon series, when they decide to release it in a boxset with all the other films. However, even then it will always be a different film. To make it an Eon film, you would need to add the gunbarrell and re-score it to include the classic Bond theme - or at least hints of it. And re-edit it to have a pre-title sequence, etc. Even the Craig films kept the nods to their heritage and feel like Eon Bond films, though the trademark/signature elements of the series were re-worked.

Edited by Bond... Raybond, 19 December 2013 - 07:40 AM.

[Turn]

Considered a Bond film, yes, obviously. Part of the official EON series, no. EON did not produce it nor had any part in its making, so although the company owns the rights it's not part of the series they made, just as Casino Royale '67 isn't.

 

That said, I'd like them to keep the title out there and not hidden away.

[TheREAL008]

No.

[Odd Jobbies]

Not in the Eon Canon, but it should be considered within the Bond canon.

[tdalton]

No, it shouldn't be considered part of the EON series.  There's no reason for it to be considered as such, since EON didn't make it. 

 

Aside from that, I guess it does quality as a Bond film, albeit a terrible one.

[stromberg]

No, it shouldn't be considered part of the EON series.  There's no reason for it to be considered as such, since EON didn't make it. 

 

Aside from that, I guess it does quality as a Bond film, albeit a terrible one.

Spot on.

 

NSNA should never be considered at all.

[Double Naught spy]

For all the reasons above - No!

[S K Y F A L L]

I think it would be cool if EON made it a special feature on the OP BluRay. I'd also like to see CR(54) and CR(67) as special features on the CR BluRay.

[seawolfnyy]

No.

I second this. The motion dies.

[billy007]

It's a Bond film,not a good Bond film but a Bond film nevertheless.

BUT IT IS NOT AN EON FILM!

[Guy Haines]

NSNA lacks the trademarks - the gunbarrel, the Monty Norman Bond theme and so on. So, in spite of the consolidation of film rights, it isn't part of the Eon canon. As a film, it is a Bond film, albeit one I always thought could have been better - though, in fairness, the makers of NSNA had the Eon lawyers to watch out for, so could not deviate greatly from the Thunderball storyline.

[Shaun Forever]

It's good to have an odd one out, a nice curiosity for new Bond fans.

 

 

 

Leave it as it is.

[Professor Pi]

It's a serious Bond movie, just not an EON one.  I treat it as the denouement of the series as Connery returns and Bond retires.  As such, it works pretty well on the heals of Licence to Kill or Skyfall (or any Craig Bond film for that matter.)  I'll even double it with with CR '67.

 

NSNA is forever a part of Bond history too.  It's more in tone with most of the EON series than most of the Brosnan movies.

 

The question is, whenever the next video format comes out, what will EON do with it?  Only then will we know if they'll acknowledge or ignore it.

[Syndicate]

NO

 

I think Eon and and MGM/UA will always consider it as a rogue Bond movie.

 

I don't even put it with my official James Bond movies. It with Mission Impossible, Mission possible Ghost protocol, From Paris With Love, Red, the Matt Helm movies and the 1964 Casino Royale movie. Where the section is the Super Spy movies in my  video collection. After that then comes the official James Bond movies.

Edited by Syndicate, 23 December 2013 - 07:08 AM.

[Grard Bond]

Ofcourse it should not considered as an official Eon Bondmovie, or part of the series, because it was not made by Eon. Period!

Edited by Grard Bond, 22 December 2013 - 12:32 AM.

[Shaun Forever]

It's a serious Bond movie, just not an EON one.  I treat it as the denouement of the series as Connery returns and Bond retires.  As such, it works pretty well on the heals of Licence to Kill or Skyfall (or any Craig Bond film for that matter.)  I'll even double it with with CR '67.

 

NSNA is forever a part of Bond history too.  It's more in tone with most of the EON series than most of the Brosnan movies.

 

The question is, whenever the next video format comes out, what will EON do with it?  Only then will we know if they'll acknowledge or ignore it.

 

 

 

I think there will always be some money to be made from the film, so I reckon we'll still see it on future formats.

 

 

 

One thing I would be interested to see, is an extended version, I've heard a lot was cut, including an actual death for Blofeld??

[Odd Jobbies]

 

One thing I would be interested to see, is an extended version, I've heard a lot was cut, including an actual death for Blofeld??

 

An extended cut would be a real treat - i\d pay through the nose to own that. However, now that Eon own the rights to Blofeld i don't see them allowing it.

[FLEMINGFAN]

NO!

[dtuba]

No, because I'm a completist and I don't want to have to buy this awful film.

[bill007]

No Bond Theme music.  No gun barrel.

 

No!

 

(This from one who grew up in the Connery era.)

[stromberg]

... though, in fairness, the makers of NSNA had the Eon lawyers to watch out for...

But then again, Eon had to watch out for McClory's lawyers for 20 films and 40 years. And he threw spanners into their work more than once. And they still managed to make a few good ones.

[Trevelyan 006]

To make it an Eon film, you would need to add the gunbarrell and re-score it to include the classic Bond theme - or at least hints of it. And re-edit it to have a pre-title sequence, etc. Even the Craig films kept the nods to their heritage and feel like Eon Bond films, though the trademark/signature elements of the series were re-worked.

 

Hey, if they took this approach I'd even give the film a fair and complete watch through, as I never have previously. In my own opinion, Never Say Never Again comes off as a cheap attempt (which it was to be fair). If they reworked the film and played with it a bit under the EON flag and enough time passed, I could possibly see it having a chance to assimilate in with the rest of the series. Emphasize on the possibly...

 

None the less, it would always oddly stick out to me personally because I'm so used to considering it as a blemish due to the film's unofficial roguishness after all these years. 

[ChickenStu]

No I don't think so. I've got the Bond 50 set and a copy of Never Say Never Again. My copy of the latter I just keep with my other Blu Rays (In alphabetical order of course). I think it's worth owning.

[S K Y F A L L]

I suppose NSNA at least deserves credit for being the first Bond film (if you want to call it that) to have a watch laser and the first black Felix Leiter.

Have I missed anything else?

Forcing EON to keep Moore around till AVTAK?...

I thought I read someone else make the same comment but lost the post...

[JSDude1]

I know someone posted a youtube video where they re-edited the opening sequence to include the gun barrel, as well as Dion Warwick's "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang" originally scheduled to be included with Thunderball...

 

This could work, though NSNA the title song should be mixed in there somewhere (like they included multiple tracks with Dr. No's opening).  Probably shouldn't re-use the TB opening sequence either, that should be redone.

 

However this concept may work if done right  !

[AirJordanFan93]

It is a Bond film but I wouldn't call it part of the EON series. EON had nothing to do with the production or filming of the film so I don't see why they should consider it part of their seires.