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[FlemingBond]

Bond and M 'partners"?

Don't forget the Bond girl . They're always trying to make her Bond's equal partner too.

Edited by FlemingBond, 15 March 2014 - 09:15 PM.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

I wouldn't mind seeing our new M more thanthe character was seen in pre-Brosnan days but I think he should be kept rather office bound. The idea of him joining Bond on a raid shooting henchmen feels preposterous.

[Iceskater101]

I love that Ralph Fiennes is in my two favorite franchises: Harry Potter and James Bond! 

 

That means I want more of M. 

[thecasinoroyale]

Call me old fashioned, but give me the days of the great Lee and Maxwell where they were an imposing presence in the Bond film, regardless of their 10 minutes or less screen-time.

 

They had a fixed role and their time with Bond was full of sharp dialogue, love-and-hate discussions and a real sense of trust between an employer and his best employee.

 

I don't want M to become a field operative, to spend more time out with a pistol than he does with paperwork. Yes, they can develop M's character for sure, but not every character in a Bond film now needs to have a weapon on them at some point.

 

Let's reign in the M plot of being kidnapped, attacked or blackmailed; the world is bigger than just hitting out at the head of MI6. Leave him to form a solid bond with 007 and keep his presence in and around MI6 and Parliament for more emotive, dramatic scenes rather than action packed shoot-outs and fights.

[ChickenStu]

Well I stand by what I said. I'd like the relationship to be explored more. It would be interesting if this new M was more of a friend to Our Man than a parent figure. There could be some funny one liners and jokes in that. Our Man comes in with a hangover and M says something like "I don't approve of you being out all hours and coming in here hungover Bond" to which Our Man replies with something like "With all due respect Sir, you were out with me and it was your idea to hit the Tequila Slammers..." 

Then they're interrupted by Moneypenny coming into the room with a file or something. 

[Pushkin]

Well I stand by what I said. I'd like the relationship to be explored more. It would be interesting if this new M was more of a friend to Our Man than a parent figure. There could be some funny one liners and jokes in that. Our Man comes in with a hangover and M says something like "I don't approve of you being out all hours and coming in here hungover Bond" to which Our Man replies with something like "With all due respect Sir, you were out with me and it was your idea to hit the Tequila Slammers..." 

Then they're interrupted by Moneypenny coming into the room with a file or something. 

 

I guess it depends on how elastic you get with characters. To me, I want the M on the screen to have some resemblance to the M in the books. But I know lots of others who are not as attached to the books and feel it's completely acceptable to remake things dramatically.

[tdalton]

 

Well I stand by what I said. I'd like the relationship to be explored more. It would be interesting if this new M was more of a friend to Our Man than a parent figure. There could be some funny one liners and jokes in that. Our Man comes in with a hangover and M says something like "I don't approve of you being out all hours and coming in here hungover Bond" to which Our Man replies with something like "With all due respect Sir, you were out with me and it was your idea to hit the Tequila Slammers..." 

Then they're interrupted by Moneypenny coming into the room with a file or something. 

 

I guess it depends on how elastic you get with characters. To me, I want the M on the screen to have some resemblance to the M in the books. But I know lots of others who are not as attached to the books and feel it's completely acceptable to remake things dramatically.

 

 

Having M turn out to be a buddy of Bond's that exchanges one-liners with him and goes out drinking with him would probably be enough to get me to walk out of the theater.  

 

As much as I love Fiennes as an actor, and there was a time where I would have liked to maybe even have seen him as Bond, M drastically needs to take a backseat in these films.  They're risking turning these films into, for lack of a better term, "buddy cop" films by having M almost as much of a lead in the film as Bond himself.  

Edited by tdalton, 01 April 2014 - 08:30 PM.

[ChickenStu]

 But I know lots of others who are not as attached to the books and feel it's completely acceptable to remake things dramatically.

 

I don't mean to sound sarcastic here - but have you actually ever seen a James Bond film? 'Cause buddy - that ship sailed a LOOOOONG time ago! 

Edited by ChickenStu, 08 April 2014 - 10:47 PM.

[tdalton]

Which is all the more reason to bring things back to Fleming.  It would be nice to see the characters from the novels, on the odd occasion, actually portrayed in the way they were meant to be portrayed.

[Turn]

I think there's a lot of room for an interesting, fresh take on the M-Bond relationship now that the mum thing is behind us. Personally, I am glad that's in the past.

 

I don't want to necessarily see M as parental figure, drinking buddy or action hero. I think there could be some potential as M seeming somewhat envious of Bond as he'd like to be in the field and seems capable of holding his own based on his actions in SF. And as he was so eager to get the previous M out of there maybe there are some other motivations that haven't surfaced yet, so who knows?

 

I'm excited to have an actor like Fiennes, who is relatively young and a good actor in the part.

[SecretAgentFan]

 

I don't want to necessarily see M as parental figure, drinking buddy or action hero. I think there could be some potential as M seeming somewhat envious of Bond as he'd like to be in the field and seems capable of holding his own based on his actions in SF. And as he was so eager to get the previous M out of there maybe there are some other motivations that haven't surfaced yet, so who knows?

 

 

Good points.  That would be interesting indeed.

[tdalton]

I think the best way that they could make Fiennes' M interesting would be to simply make him competent at his job.  The reason that he wanted Dench's M out so badly was that she was just terrible at her job.  Losing the NATO OC List was probably the final straw in a career that saw her employ 2 traitors (Vesper and Mitchell), the embassy situation with Bond, among other things, and that's not even going back into her first four films in the role when she was even worse at her job.