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[THX-007]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

That was absolutely brilliant. 

While it was good that Skyfall won two oscars (although sad Roger Deakins was again passed over, had a feeling of Life of Pi was going to get it) and Shirley and Adele's performances were good, the tribute in a word: sucked. It wasn't bad enough that Halle Berry introduced the montage but they made sure to sprinkle clips of her throughout the montage including the pretty shoddy looking effect of her diving into the ocean. I think its plainly obvious that when they couldn't secure all of the Bonds they went with Plan B, honor the music of the series...by playing three songs and not mentioning any of the key players (Monty Norman, John Barry, etc.)

[graric]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

I think its plainly obvious that when they couldn't secure all of the Bonds they went with Plan B, honor the music of the series...by playing three songs and not mentioning any of the key players (Monty Norman, John Barry, etc.)

Except, as has already been said here, getting all the Bonds together was never part of the plan...the Academy President denied it months ago, the Producers put out an official statment a couple of weeks ago: Sean Connery, George Lazenby and Roger Moore's representatives have all said that they were never asked to participate (along with Pierce Brosnan himself.) All evidence suggests that this was just a rumour started by someone in the press that everyone wanted to believe....even assuming they tried to get Sean Connery and his agent turned them down, why would they say they had never been asked? (They have been up front enough about not making public appearances in the past that to deny ever being asked just seems odd.)

As for honouring the music being 'plan B', the entire theme of last nights Oscars was honouring music so it makes sense that Bond music would be a part of that.
(Having said that they should have done a much, much, much better job of the tribute than that montage...even if they had a couple of memorable Bond lines mixed in with the thousands of action shots it would have done a slightly better job of showing what Bond is about.)

[THX-007]

 

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

I think its plainly obvious that when they couldn't secure all of the Bonds they went with Plan B, honor the music of the series...by playing three songs and not mentioning any of the key players (Monty Norman, John Barry, etc.)

Except, as has already been said here, getting all the Bonds together was never part of the plan...the Academy President denied it months ago, the Producers put out an official statment a couple of weeks ago: Sean Connery, George Lazenby and Roger Moore's representatives have all said that they were never asked to participate (along with Pierce Brosnan himself.) All evidence suggests that this was just a rumour started by someone in the press that everyone wanted to believe....even assuming they tried to get Sean Connery and his agent turned them down, why would they say they had never been asked? (They have been up front enough about not making public appearances in the past that to deny ever being asked just seems odd.)

As for honouring the music being 'plan B', the entire theme of last nights Oscars was honouring music so it makes sense that Bond music would be a part of that.
(Having said that they should have done a much, much, much better job of the tribute than that montage...even if they had a couple of memorable Bond lines mixed in with the thousands of action shots it would have done a slightly better job of showing what Bond is about.)

Had no idea that the Academy President had denied it since the day before the Oscars news outlets were still reporting on a possible Bond reunion. Still I think most people were still expecting at least one of the Bonds to show up. 

Personally I find it the excuse that the focus was on the Bond music because the show was honoring music/musicals pretty ridiculous. I guess if they were doing a tribute to the late Sydney Lumet instead they would be restricted just to showing clips from The Wiz =)

It was bad but it could've been worse, they could've done an interpretive dance number like they did a few years ago. 

[thecasinoroyale]

It's all been said, but I have to also say I was very dissapointed at the Movie Maker clip that anyone could have put together, and the fact there are greater montage clips that fans have made out there.

 

The orchestra played a lacklustre rendition of the themes, which was very damp.

 

Shirley Bassey and 'Goldfinger' bores me totally now at every James Bond event, and I think she's the only star who they can afford to get over to sing her song and she's got nothing else on to do. It's not even that good a theme song, and as you say, if anything it should have been maybe something like Adele singing 'Nobody Does It Better'. THAT song sums up James Bond. Bassey is starting to look artificial now, and the song is always sung half-hearted now.

 

Halle Berry representing 50 years? One actress who was panned by fans and critics for her performance in some reviews for 'Die Another Day'? Not even Michael G Wilson or Barbara Brocolli? Or hell, even the current Bond girl Naomie Harris! OR dare I saw Daniel Craig, or at least someone with a bit more relevance to the series apart from a random Bond girl who just is availiable to be there. Dissapointing turnout for Bond's biggest night as the Oscars.

 

And I know it wasn't about celebrating all things Bond at the Oscars, but if they go on about a "tribute to 50 years of James Bond", then they should have made it a bloody tribute and not just filler while people could go get drinks or use the loo.

 

[marktmurphy]

I must be the only one who did not enjoy Bassey's performance of Goldfinger last night. It didn't sound right to me.

 

You're not the only one. I thought Adele did a far better job. 

 

What really bugs me about Bassey singing Goldfinger is that it's not even a song that celebrates Bond. If they wanted to use a Bond theme that celebrates the character they could have (and should have) gone with "Nobody Does it Better," or "You know my Name." Both are wonderful songs about Bond himself while Goldfinger is just a song about...Goldfinger. Good song and all, but I'm getting tired of this perception that Goldfinger is the only "good" Bond film. There are 22 other films for crying out loud, it's time to get off of this line of thinking.

 

It's a bit of a classic. I can't really fault the choice; it's the original template for the 'Bond song'.

And wasn't even nominated for an Oscar.

[saint mark]

I doubt they could have done anything that would have satisfied the Bondfans except for giving Craig and SF an oscar, which neither deserved.

 

The show they put on was good enough to honour a 50 year old franchise, but there are a lot of movies that deserve some attention and afterall the Oscars is about celebrating cinema and they did.

[marktmurphy]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

 

Very nice; the song is a bit distracting in that weird form but a well-edited selection.

[Stubris]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown
yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing

ovation to the guy who put this together...

Goosebumps.

Edited by Stubris, 26 February 2013 - 11:21 AM.

[graric]

 

 

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

I think its plainly obvious that when they couldn't secure all of the Bonds they went with Plan B, honor the music of the series...by playing three songs and not mentioning any of the key players (Monty Norman, John Barry, etc.)

Except, as has already been said here, getting all the Bonds together was never part of the plan...the Academy President denied it months ago, the Producers put out an official statment a couple of weeks ago: Sean Connery, George Lazenby and Roger Moore's representatives have all said that they were never asked to participate (along with Pierce Brosnan himself.) All evidence suggests that this was just a rumour started by someone in the press that everyone wanted to believe....even assuming they tried to get Sean Connery and his agent turned them down, why would they say they had never been asked? (They have been up front enough about not making public appearances in the past that to deny ever being asked just seems odd.)

As for honouring the music being 'plan B', the entire theme of last nights Oscars was honouring music so it makes sense that Bond music would be a part of that.
(Having said that they should have done a much, much, much better job of the tribute than that montage...even if they had a couple of memorable Bond lines mixed in with the thousands of action shots it would have done a slightly better job of showing what Bond is about.)

Had no idea that the Academy President had denied it since the day before the Oscars news outlets were still reporting on a possible Bond reunion. Still I think most people were still expecting at least one of the Bonds to show up. 

Personally I find it the excuse that the focus was on the Bond music because the show was honoring music/musicals pretty ridiculous. I guess if they were doing a tribute to the late Sydney Lumet instead they would be restricted just to showing clips from The Wiz =)

It was bad but it could've been worse, they could've done an interpretive dance number like they did a few years ago. 

'News' sites are notorious for running with rumours long after they've been officially denied, most Bond related news sites tried to make it very clear there was no reunion planned (it doesn't take much scrolling down on Commander Bond's front page to find a statement saying there would be no Bond gathering.)
Having said that I think everyone was shocked by the lack of Daniel Craig (it seemed to be the most obvious thing in the world that the current Bond would be involved in a special tribute to the series...but only the Academy would think Halle Berry and a quick clip show are a 'special and unique' tribute to Bond, instead of trying to bring all the Bonds together!)

In anycase I was not trying to offer any excuse for the Oscar's Disappointing tribute, I was just pointing out that everything we know suggests that this was not the Academy's Plan B....As bad as that interpretative dance tribute was, at least it was memorable and looked like some effort had been put into it! Last Night's tribute was just another medicore montage, presented by one of the more mediocre Bond girls.

[nickjb007]

The show they put on was good enough to honour a 50 year old franchise, but there are a lot of movies that deserve some attention and afterall the Oscars is about celebrating cinema and they did.

Chicago got a better tribute than the Bond series did. And Chicago is a movie from 12 years ago. If there goal was to celebrate cinema they did a bad job, they mainly celebrated music in cinema.

[thecasinoroyale]

Was it not meant to be a "musical" celebration of film, the theme this year? With all the famous music cues when people got up on stage?

 

I don't know - but I have to say I did think the on-stage cast singing from 'Les Miserable' was pretty damn good for a live show! Better than Catherine Zeta-Jones miming anyway...

[FlemingBond]

It would have been nice if they'd had even ONE of the Bonds' there, and have them talk for a minute about the series contribution to movies, or even a montage of clips of people who worked on the films talking about it. Everyone has seen clips of the films. I'm glad they did something, but it could have been a little better.

[delfloria]

I'd take the Sheena Easton disaster over this years anemic fail, and that's pretty pathetic.

[007jamesbond]

I am surprise that the academy didn't bother asking Moore to come out and talk about Bond! I think Moore would surely go or just a video from him on the screen.......it not that difficult to do............sigh 

[larrythefatcat]

I finally saw the "tribute" and I'm glad someone let the editor borrow their Laserdiscs and old DVDs to put together a "cute" little video for the Oscars...

 

WOW

[THX-007]

 In anycase I was not trying to offer any excuse for the Oscar's Disappointing tribute, I was just pointing out that everything we know suggests that this was not the Academy's Plan B.

I know, I was just saying that I disagree with how the Oscars did the Bond montage by focusing more on the music than the history. In the end they kinda failed at both. It felt very half-assed. 

[scaramunga]

I was hoping for more of a tribute as well. pretty underwhelming. 

 

What happened with Tom Jones? 

 

http://www.thesun.co...Oscars-gig.html

[JimmyBond]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

 

I think the musical choice was a bit questionable, parts of Adele's song doesn't really work as a purely instrumental. But that was a bang up job. I especially liked putting M's poem over a montage of all six actors, worked extremely well.

[thecasinoroyale]

I agree Jimmy - the ending poem with the montage of actors actually gave me goosebumps. Summed up everything about thr 50 years of James Bond movies for me.

[S K Y F A L L]

Great video, for sure. I agree about the song, wouldn't have been my first choice. 

[Matt_13]

The Tennyson bit at the end gave me chills too. Nice work.

[Vauxhall]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw
Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

Really, really good. Superb.

[FredJB007]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw
Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

Really, really good. Superb.

One word......AWESOME!

[Professor Pi]

Chills on the Tennyson bit leading up to an all six Bonds gunbarrel!

 

If the 85th Oscars had put as much thought into their Bond tribute as they did for Chicago, or Les Miserables, or Star Trek, or even Seth MacFarlane's making Pierce a martini commercial ...

 

 

Now, if we want Shirley to sing something celebrating James Bond, it's called "Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang."

[SecretAgentFan]

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

 

Truly beautiful. Exactly what the Oscar tribute was not: moving audiences and defining what Bond has been through 50 years.

 

Obviously, the Academy does not get what 007 is all about.

[Iceskater101]

I didn't watch it, but it would have been cool to bring all the Bond's on stage and have a ton of people singing the different theme songs and stuff.

[trevanian]

With all due respect to Dame Shirley....Halle Berry and a clip reel.....not exactly Christmas was it?

Just proof that xmas DOES only come once per year.

 

The clips were a huge disappointment, especially given that Prologue (the best title folk EVER, from back when the guy was at his previous company and did stuff like Se7en to more current work like AMERICAN HORROR STORY) did the work. Couldn't believe how limp it was. 

 

The Bassey performance really grew on me as it progressed, but the Adelle thing was just nothing, which is all I could expect given that the song should have been called 'prozac - OD'd on prozac.' Hard to believe a talent like hers could turn out such drivel (practically stealing lyrics from that goofy background MAKE IT LAST ALL NIGHT song from FYEO, with the 'count to 10' nonsense), but then again, Eon spent a year and a half dicking around on using her and only settled in with it when she was probably a lot more concerned with having her child safely, so I suppose they got what they deserved. 

[larrythefatcat]

I forgot to mention it earlier, but I don't think anybody brought up the fact that the orchestra played 'Nobody Does It Better'... when Michael Douglas and Jane Fonda came out.

 

...I'm still confused as to why that happened...

Edited by larrythefatcat, 27 February 2013 - 06:37 PM.

[The Shark]

The Bassey performance really grew on me as it progressed, but the Adelle thing was just nothing, which is all I could expect given that the song should have been called 'prozac - OD'd on prozac.' Hard to believe a talent like hers could turn out such drivel (practically stealing lyrics from that goofy background MAKE IT LAST ALL NIGHT song from FYEO, with the 'count to 10' nonsense), but then again, Eon spent a year and a half dicking around on using her and only settled in with it when she was probably a lot more concerned with having her child safely, so I suppose they got what they deserved. 

 

This.

[Syndicate]

The tribute could have been better, the song I would have choosen would have been either For Your Eyes Only or Nobody Does It Better. Halle Berry would not have been my first choice as the one to present this tribute. I would have wanted  like Maud Adam, Izabella Scorupco or Jane Seymour to present it. Maybe even the three of them doing it together. But I guess they Halle Berry, because she is a Oscar winner for the movie Monster's Ball. One has to wonder IF she was not an Oscar winner at all, would they still have choosen her for it or who would they have gone with.

 

I would have throwen in some sceens with sayings like the famous one from Goldfinger, the ending of For Your Eyes Only when the Prime Minister calls (this would be at the start of the tribute), and Bolfed intrducing himself from You Only Live Twice. For one thing I would not just keep using a version of the Bond theme for the whole tribute.

Edited by Syndicate, 02 March 2013 - 09:41 PM.