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#1 DRESSED_2_KILL

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

Since there is a minority here not pleased with skyfall, I think its a good idea for all of us to have a thread where we can all discuss our negativity towards the film.

I was expecting Casino Royale 2.0, instead I
felt like this was a poor attempt at trying to
blend the old movies with the current style
of Craig's era. I heavily disliked all of the
things pointing back to the past bond films,
it was so retarded to include the gadgets on
the Aston Martin DB5, first off it doesnt even
make sense, in Casino Royale bond won that
car in the casino in a poker game bet with
Dimitrios . So basically the writers
completely forgot about that. Another thing I
highly disliked was Silva, wow what a stupid
villain. The story felt rushed and overall
boring.

Things I did like were the scenes of Bond
infiltrating Shanghai, hanging on the
elevator, being isolated on the beach
drinking. Basically the beginning was alright
but just went downhill. I thought the plot
and story was very unrealistic. Daniel Craig
was fed so many quips and one liners. The
one liners felt extremely forced and out of
place. Seriously I mean the line where Bond
said, " what a good waste of Scotch",
literally made me wana puke.
I can tell where the producers are heading
with the franchise and it feels awkward , out
of place and reliant on the past. I expect to
see the franchise going into another Pierce
Brosnan era with subpar plots and too much
action.
Casino Royale makes skyfall look like thrash
. I did like the scenes where Bond was
working out and training though. I feel the
writers should have emphasized way more
on bonds isolation during his time off duty.
Skyfall really missed the ball. I Also feel the
ending battle at Bonds house was
prolonged , boring, unrealistic and just
sloppy writing. I also really missed David
Arnold, Thomas Newman's soundtrack felt
out of place to me towards the end.

Let’s start with the opening scene. Someone
steals a list of secret agents from a
computer in a hotel room. First, this has already been done with Mission Impossible – start with something a little more original. Second, why was this information on a laptop in Turkey?
At least Mission Impossible had this info stored in an embassy

After Bond gets picked up in the SUV and
they take off after the bad guy (Patrice), they end up in a gunfight where Patrice takes out this gun with a double barrel supply of bullets.
He obviously can’t carry that in his jacket which is the point of a handgun for this. Why wouldn’t he just use automatic assault rifle? Also,how many bullets were fired during this scene –
and no one gets hit? What is this, GI Joe
(the cartoon)? You are a spy and an assassin and neither of you can shoot your target?

Next. So Patrice apparently uses depleted
uranium bullets. These are supposed to be
used because uranium is a denser material
soit can pierce through more materials such as
metal but they don’t go through the metal of
the Caterpillar when Bond is in it? Also, MI6
is able to find out how this guy is as apparently
only three “bad guys” in the world use
depleted uranium bullets. Only three guys in
the world use this type of bullet? Do they not
know that government agencies could track
them this way? Smooth moves Patrice!
Next. Bond is fighting Patrice on the train
(with a gun shot to his shoulder) and then
getsshot off the train. First, where did he get
shotthe second time? I saw where he was shot
the first time (shoulder) but where was the
second bullet wound? Also, he gets hit twice, falls off a train with enough height to kill someone, and still survives? Bourne rip off. Later, we find out that there were still bullet
fragments inside his body – he just left them in there? What was the point of that?

Next. the evil villain who we haven’t met yet
blows up MI6 by turning on the gas. Really?
You can access gas to a secured government
facility by internet? So a haggard Bond
comes back to MI6 and goes after Patrice in
Shanghai. First, we see Patrice just walk into
a building and shoot the security guard – why
was the front door not locked? No cameras
he was worried about? No one else in the
building at all to worry about walking in or
out

(cleaning crew, someone working late) who
would call the cops while he is stuck in the
building? We follow him upstairs to find out
he is about to assassinate some guy in another
high rise building. At first, I thought “oh, the
guy who is about to get shot has bodyguards
so the villain needs an assassin to take him
out.” Nope, those bodyguards work for the
villain so that means there are 4 people in
that room and 3 are with the villain but they
need to pay an assassin 4 million euros to
take him out? One of the three could’t have
brought a gun with them or knife and just saved the 4 million? Anyway, Bond lets Patrice kill the guy before doing anything. I understand Bond is supposed to be ruthless but that just sounds stupid. You let your enemy kill his enemy –
why wouldn’t you save him to see what value
he would be, I mean he is the enemy of your
enemy and all.

So in a homage to old Bond films, 007 finds
a clue in a poker chip which Patrice was
supposed to cash if for the job. Alright, a
little cheesy but alright (they wouldn’t have done that in Casino Royale). Hell, why didn’t they just wire him the money? Anyway, Bond
fights three guys in a casino with a briefcase full of money that he throws around like it is empty (I am thinking 4 million euros weighs quite a bit). Bond has a gun on him and he knows these guys want to kill him but he doesn’t pull it out and shoot or just say “hey, i have agun, get out of my way or I am going to shoot you.” Also, since when do these types of lizards eat people?

Next, he goes on a boat to hook up with the
typical Bond girl full well knowing that the
guys on the boat probably work for the main
villain. They just let him on board the boat?
And he gets to sleep with the villain’s girl?
Did she really not know she was going to die for doing this? What, she just could’t resist Bond so she sleeps with him right below all the
villain’s bodyguards? Why did they let him on
board and not immediately cuff him?
Next, the Bond girl dies (well that was
quick).

Suddenly, Bond is able to take out 5 guys at
the same time even though he was unarmed
and they all had guns. Amazing since he
couldn’t take out Patrice at the beginning of
the film even while he had a gun.
About that island. How did the villain (Silva)
get an entire island? Fear of a chemical leak
that evacuates an entire island and the
world press nor any country investigates?

Amazing!
So this former MI6 spy is also a genius
computer hacker? If he is not the hacker,
who is? They can just hack into the MI6 whenever they want? A little stretched.
Everyone is back at the new MI6
headquarters and the new Q plugs their computer system into Silva’s laptop which suddenly hijacks their computer system.

WHAT? This is the smartest computer guy at MI6 and he didn’t think this could happen? Really? Anyway, M is in a hearing with top government officials when
a train (with apparently no passengers)
plunges through a tunnel. When that happened and it would most likely be viewed as a terrorist attack, they kept on with the proceedings inthe courtroom? Wouldn’t they stop the proceedings to deal with something like this?

Then Silva and his henchmen just walk in the
courtroom by only shooting one security
guard at the entrance? One guard is it? And once inside, no one can kill the Silva with all the shots fired?

So Silva miraculously gets away and Bond
thinks the best solution is to go “off the grid”
instead of using all British intelligence to
track this guy down? He is in the UK where
cameras are everywhere and the they decide to go AWOL with M as bait. 2nd, they don’t stop to get any weapons along the way? While some
may like the old Aston Martin as a homage
to the best, I thought is was too cheesy and
absurd. When there is nothing new for a
franchise, it inevitably starts to feed on itself
with references to what was already done.
This is only the 3rd movie in this re-imagined
Bond –no need to start referencing the past
yet.

Skyfall? Seriously? Bond is apparently a rich
orphan? Stop stealing from Batman! He is an
orphan that did not come from money – that
is why he has a chip on his shoulder (as
diagnosed by the Bond girl in Casino Royale
on the train). This is a rip off of Harrison Ford’s
Witness (and not done as well). So I don’t
know why Silva didn’t attack at night under
the cover of darkness, but whatever. Also,
turning light bulbs into bombs? Was that M or
MacGyver? What exactly caused that big
explosion when the helicopter flew into the
house? Don’t think even a full fuel tank could
have caused that.

Next. M and the caretaker escape to the
church. Not really a bright idea to use a
flashlight so that the bad guys can track you.
Bond of course follows running in the open
across a frozen pond, not a bright idea to run
across in the open but whatever. So once he
was caught and Silva’s henchman is right
next to him with a gun, why did he not have his
gun not directly pointed at Bond? Was he hopingtoricochet a bullet off the ice at him? Wow, didn’t see that coming. Wait, I saw this in
Cliffhanger

When Silva reaches the church why were M
and the caretaker not ready for anyone to
come after them? Why would they assume no
one saw them walking over to the church? I
mean they did have their flashlight on.
In the end, Silva wants M to kill them both.
Some Bond villains are driven by money or
world domination but this guy is driven by his
mommy issues? Seriously? Silva is apparently
the best hacker the world has ever seen and
instead of rigging banks to transfer money
into his accounts or taking over countries, his
main plan is to get back at mum?
To summarize: this movie sucked and is
nowhere near the quality of casino royale

#2 stromberg

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:18 PM

Since we don't have a special place for the overjoyed Skyfall viewers, I don't see any reason for having a special place for the disappointed ones. You rightfully posted your general impression in the respective thread http://debrief.comma...fall/?p=1245709 and that's were it belongs and where it can be discussed. It would also have worked, had you posted the whole thing as your personal Skyfall review and have it discussed. But creating a thread with the premise of negativity... Nope, sorry.

 

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