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The return of Goldfinger?


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#1 bleary_25

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:46 AM

I know some of us have been discussing the possibility of the return of Blofeld to the franchise, but I read somewhere recently that the writers have been seeding the return of another Bond villain. Purvis & Wade said to look closely at the name of the villains of the three Daniel Craig movies for a clue.

Mr White, Dominic Greene and Raoul Silva? Colourful allusions to Goldfinger?

#2 Mr Teddy Bear

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:16 AM

I have no idea where that information is coming from, but Purvis & Wade are not going to have any involvement in Bond 24 so I wouldn't bank on it.

#3 Iceskater101

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 04:42 PM

Let's hope not, I don't want any of the other Bond villains to return. I just want new, original ideas.

#4 tdalton

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

I certainly hope Goldfinger is not returning to the series. A remake of GOLDFINGER is literally the last thing I'd want the Bond series to attempt at this point.

Let's hope not, I don't want any of the other Bond villains to return. I just want new, original ideas.


Very much agreed. New and original characters are what EON should be developing right now, not re-hashes or re-imaginings of ones that have already been used.

#5 AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:53 AM

I certainly hope Goldfinger is not returning to the series. A remake of GOLDFINGER is literally the last thing I'd want the Bond series to attempt at this point.

Agreed 100%. Besides Gert Fröbe and Harold Sakata have both passed away. Who would hypothetically play Goldfinger in the remake, Eddie Izzard?

#6 tdalton

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:03 AM


I certainly hope Goldfinger is not returning to the series. A remake of GOLDFINGER is literally the last thing I'd want the Bond series to attempt at this point.

Agreed 100%. Besides Gert Fröbe and Harold Sakata have both passed away. Who would hypothetically play Goldfinger in the remake, Eddie Izzard?


I think that there are plenty of talented actors out there who could do a great job with the Goldfinger character. Stellan Skarsgaard's name immediately springs to mind. Finding someone to play Goldfinger wouldn't be the issue, I don't think. The problem would mainly just be that it would be a rehash of something we've already seen.

#7 sharpshooter

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

New and original characters are what EON should be developing right now, not re-hashes or re-imaginings of ones that have already been used.

Absolutely. I’d much rather a new character come into existence and pave his own way, like Bardem’s Silva. I'm not giving Goldfinger's return any serious thought. Just can't see it happening.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

The biggest problem with a new Goldfinger is that the story is one of the most dated in the Bond series. Nobody is concerned with gold in 2012. Just look at the GF reference in QoS. Michael G. Wilson said that Fields' body was covered in oil and left as an allusion to Jill Masterson to show that oil has supplanted gold as the world's most valuable resource.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:37 AM

I'd always love to see new interpretations of characters in Craig's universe, as we have with Moneypenny, Q and M...but as we've already experienced different actors taking on those roles at different times, that is almost expected.

Coming back for one film as the main villain, Goldfinger? I don't know - I think deep down I'd love to see a new take on him, his schemes and his battle against Bond, but at the same time I'd be worried imagination would be lacking with EON and it would mean more revival of the older, classic characters again.

Can't tell if it would be good or bad, taking in new fans, new generations etc, accepting Craig's Bond is a "re-boot" of the secret agents' career, so we hope him to encounter them in someway, don't we?

We long for Blofeld to return, so why not Goldfinger?

#10 sharpshooter

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:48 AM

M, Q and Moneypenny are constants - recasting is prevalent because of this, even if the latter two were absent in CR and QoS. You can’t say the same thing about Goldfinger, or any other villain for that matter. And I think comparisons would be just too strong. I don’t think this is like bringing back Batman villains like The Joker.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:00 PM


I certainly hope Goldfinger is not returning to the series. A remake of GOLDFINGER is literally the last thing I'd want the Bond series to attempt at this point.

Besides Gert Fröbe and Harold Sakata have both passed away. Who would hypothetically play Goldfinger in the remake, Eddie Izzard?

Jerry Stiller.

#12 AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

The problem would mainly just be that it would be a rehash of something we've already seen.

Exactly. Goldfinger probably is most iconic Bond film of them all - everything in that film simply works and it has become part of collective conciousness - it isn't too much of a stretch to say it is as much a untouchable classic in the eyes of general public as The Godfather.

And like seawolfnyy said, the story simply wouldn't work in contemporary setting.

#13 sharpshooter

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 11:54 PM

Exactly. Goldfinger probably is most iconic Bond film of them all - everything in that film simply works and it has become part of collective conciousness - it isn't too much of a stretch to say it is as much a untouchable classic in the eyes of general public as The Godfather.

And like seawolfnyy said, the story simply wouldn't work in contemporary setting.

Agreed. The Joker and all those types of villains have loads of different stories and interpretations to draw upon. Goldfinger only has the movie and the novel, which presents the same plot, albeit with changes. That's his story and his motivation, and he lives and dies in it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:00 AM

I do hope not. They tried that in the original DAF screenplay and thankfully they dropped this very stupid idea!

#15 Iceskater101

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:59 AM

No Blofeld either. Seriously I want new original ideas, I think it is extremely weird to bring back old villains. They have been done before.

#16 tdalton

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:00 AM

No Blofeld either. Seriously I want new original ideas, I think it is extremely weird to bring back old villains. They have been done before.


Well said.

The franchise needs to continue to look forward, not backward.

#17 Iceskater101

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:01 AM

Yep exactly. I am very adament about this, I don't want them to reboot any villains.

#18 tonyvenhuizen

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:11 AM

The biggest problem with a new Goldfinger is that the story is one of the most dated in the Bond series. Nobody is concerned with gold in 2012. Just look at the GF reference in QoS. Michael G. Wilson said that Fields' body was covered in oil and left as an allusion to Jill Masterson to show that oil has supplanted gold as the world's most valuable resource.


So we should be expecting a new, original villain: Oilic Crudefinger.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:54 AM

...look closely at the name of the villains of the three Daniel Craig movies for a clue.

Mr White, Dominic Greene and Raoul Silva? Colourful allusions to Goldfinger?

Blackfriar.

Or perhaps the Blue Man Group?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:16 AM


No Blofeld either. Seriously I want new original ideas, I think it is extremely weird to bring back old villains. They have been done before.


Well said.

The franchise needs to continue to look forward, not backward.


That's my opinion on the issue as well.

#21 seawolfnyy

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:03 AM


...look closely at the name of the villains of the three Daniel Craig movies for a clue.

Mr White, Dominic Greene and Raoul Silva? Colourful allusions to Goldfinger?

Blackfriar.

Or perhaps the Blue Man Group?


Or Blackbriar. Wow they really are going full on Jason Bourne.

#22 sharpshooter

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:56 AM

The franchise needs to continue to look forward, not backward.

I wouldn't mind seeing Quantum resurface in Bond 24. If they were to go 'backward', I'd prefer that. It would increase the importance and relevance of QoS. They established the organisation and can revisit them anytime they want. As we all know Goldfinger rested SPECTRE, and if Bond 24 has a bigger plot, eg. a worldwide threat, Quantum could fit.

#23 JimmyBond

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:22 AM

Yep exactly. I am very adament about this, I don't want them to reboot any villains.


What if they lose their boots? Are you saying they should go barefoot?

#24 Double-0-Seven

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:36 AM

Let's not forget one of the Dalton villains got the boot.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:18 AM

SIlva's a common Portugese name. I wouldn't read into it.