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[Redneck007]

Will the Quantum storyline be sown up either in Bond 24 or 25? Skyfall is obviously a new story apart from Quantum (have not seen it yet). Maybe the pattern is like Connery's (Dr. No & FRWL were SPECTRE, GF was separate, and TB, YOLT, Lazenby's OHMSS, DAF were SPECTRE/Blofeld). If Quantum is indeed the modern day SPECTRE maybe Bond 24 will resume with at least Quantum involved in the plot. Craig's first two (CR/QOS) were Quantum, SKYFALL was a different villain. I see a pattern even if it may not be intentional.

[thecasinoroyale]

Oh I don't know...

It had potential to be a new criminal team for Bond to counter, but they appeared weak, pathetic and just boring in 'Quantum Of Solace' so glad they were scrapped.

If Silva in 'Skyfall' was the head, or a top agent, in the Quantum organisation, then it could have been a great idea without the 'QOS' link. If Logan pens a 2-part story and brings Quantum back, he really needs to improve them and make them more of a threat, and not an almost pantomine organisation who spread evil by negotiating land deals and spending money - we need some terrorism, kidnapping, extortion - the usual things that made SPECTRE so memorable AND some very menacing and memorable men working for it.

Mr White, Mr Greene, Mr Slate and others were too old, boring and not very imposing to make me, and probably other audiences, care what Quantum does next.

I don't want them to come back and take over another 2-part story they mess up.

[Redneck007]

I agree. They were weak in QOS although I like the opera scene with the Quantum agents communicating. Maybe not a full movie devoted to Quantum but maybe a pre-title sequence with Bond eliminating Mr. White or whoever. It seems like the head of Quantum would be a multinational corporate exec-type. Maybe infuse a little Fleming from 007 in New York and have the head of Quantum based there. Maybe a female head of Quantum? That would be interesting.

Edited by Redneck007, 30 October 2012 - 04:23 PM.

[Messervy]

Mr White, Mr Greene, Mr Slate and others were too old, boring and not very imposing to make me, and probably other audiences, care what Quantum does next.

I beg to differ. I think this is precisely a good thing: they're not Over-The-Top lunatics, they're your average political/economics leaders, bent to an evil cause. It works much better this way: evil lurks in the shadows, in shades of grey, at the hands of an unnoticeable evil-bent elite. Much scarier I think.

[Iceskater101]

They shouldn't show up. I mean I think they just didn't seem like very strong villains to me.

[SecretAgentFan]

Mr White, Mr Greene, Mr Slate and others were too old, boring and not very imposing to make me, and probably other audiences, care what Quantum does next.

I beg to differ. I think this is precisely a good thing: they're not Over-The-Top lunatics, they're your average political/economics leaders, bent to an evil cause. It works much better this way: evil lurks in the shadows, in shades of grey, at the hands of an unnoticeable evil-bent elite. Much scarier I think.

I agree completely. And I did not consider them weak in QOS. Even if one member has been put down by Bond, it was clear that this organization is extremely far-reaching and dangerous. And they do not tolerate failure, as evidenced by Mr.Greene´s demise.

And Bond is already on their radar, so... lots of possibilities here!

[tdalton]

I thought that they were on the road to being a great villainous organization, but given how much EON seems to want to distance themselves from QUANTUM OF SOLACE and the fact that there will have been at the very least a six year gap since their last appearance (if the rumors of a 2014 release for BOND 24 are true), I think we've unfortunately seen the last of Quantum. I'd love to be wrong on that, though.

[Harmsway]

I wouldn't be that surprised if EON brought them back. Quantum is still so vaguely sketched that they're malleable into whatever EON would need them to be.

[Redneck007]

Mr. White always seemed to find a way to escape Bond and MI6's clutches so it seems the top brass of Quantum are the real pros. If EON can somehow get Jesper Christensen to return as Mr. White I would welcome it. Or just release the deleted ending scene from QOS.

[marktmurphy]

I have no interest in seeing them again. There is nothing interesting about them- there is nothing to them. It's a name, a pin badge and the idea of a load of baddies. Yes, that means they could become interesting if someone stuck interesting bits onto them, but it is worth rescuing a non-idea like that?

They should have been called 'Solace', anyway.

[QuantumOfRoyale]

Mr. White always seemed to find a way to escape Bond and MI6's clutches so it seems the top brass of Quantum are the real pros. If EON can somehow get Jesper Christensen to return as Mr. White I would welcome it. Or just release the deleted ending scene from QOS.

Deleted ending scene??

[Redneck007]

There was a rumored deleted ending with Mr. White and Guy Haines that was cut.

[Vauxhall]

Mr. White always seemed to find a way to escape Bond and MI6's clutches so it seems the top brass of Quantum are the real pros. If EON can somehow get Jesper Christensen to return as Mr. White I would welcome it. Or just release the deleted ending scene from QOS.

Deleted ending scene??

The final scene was originally intended to be Bond going to Guy Haines' house, shooting Mr White and introducing himself to Haines.

[Harmsway]

Yep. The ending with Mr. White getting killed was shot two different ways, too. (After Bond offs Mr. White, Haines asks Bond, "Who are you?" In one version, Bond just smiles. In the other, he actually says the whole line, CASINO ROYALE style.)

Yes, that means they could become interesting if someone stuck interesting bits onto them, but it is worth rescuing a non-idea like that?

If they want a more "unified" Craig era, sure. The return of Quantum would bring things full circle, with Bond fully confronting the enemies of his early days as a Double-O. (It would also have the side effect of making the set-up for the organization in CASINO ROYALE seem a bit more worthwhile than it does now.)

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Mr White, Mr Greene, Mr Slate and others were too old, boring and not very imposing to make me, and probably other audiences, care what Quantum does next.

I strongly disagree. Quantum reminds me of SPECTRE of the novels, being a gang of neatly dressed businessmen in the game for profit instead of guys in matching boiler suits bent for world domination.
I'd rather see Quantum dealt properly with blofeldesque leader than the return of nehrusuited cat enthusiast commanding hordes hired from Henchmen R Us.

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 30 October 2012 - 07:03 PM.

[The Shark]

Quantum reminds me of SPECTRE of the novels, being a gang of neatly dressed businessmen in the game for profit...

Isn't that exactly how they're portrayed in THUNDERBALL's (the film) boardroom scene?

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

Quantum reminds me of SPECTRE of the novels, being a gang of neatly dressed businessmen in the game for profit...

Isn't that exactly how they're portrayed in THUNDERBALL's (the film) boardroom scene?

Yes, but to many SPECTRE seems to mean hollowed volcanoes, etc.

I don't also buy the claim that Quantum has to be ditched since too much time has passed since QoS or that movie sucked, etc. All one needs is a line or two of expositionary dialogue - M could say to Bond "yet unverified intel suggests Quantum organizations involvement" and the game is set: Bond is the hero and Quantum are the bad guys.

[thecasinoroyale]

I would see Quantum back, but just want them to do something better than try to control Bolivian water - slick and shady villains are ok, but none of them really get their hands dirty, it's all hitmen and contracts put out. At least some of SPECTRE got their hands dirty.

I will welcome them back if they are dealt with better than 'Quantum Of Solace' and I actually felt their plans were worthy of Bond to thwart.

[Redneck007]

They can use the unused QOS footage (Haines/White) as a flashback if needed if they can't get the actor that portrayed Mr. White.