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[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

I would personally love it if they took the buried treasure money laundering scheme from LALD that has still never been adapted for film, but seeing as they haven't even taken that opportunity, I don't think they're interested in anything that could even be misconstrued as a remake.

Agreed on both points. I can imagine that other unused Fleming element, the Garden of Death, could be combined to the basic scheme of LALD, "Mr Bigs" island being like the Garden.

[L4YRCAKE]

I would personally love it if they took the buried treasure money laundering scheme from LALD that has still never been adapted for film, but seeing as they haven't even taken that opportunity, I don't think they're interested in anything that could even be misconstrued as a remake.

Agreed on both points. I can imagine that other unused Fleming element, the Garden of Death, could be combined to the basic scheme of LALD, "Mr Bigs" island being like the Garden.

There is SOOOOOOOOO much material from the books that they haven't used, and should mine for material for the films without having to do an outright remake. I think on the whole the novel You Only Live Twice would make a terrific film (under another name, of course. Garden Of Death, perhaps?), and I've been dying to see the garden of death and many, many elements from Live And Let Die make the leap to the big screen.

And I take it as an extremely good sign when Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes said they both reread all the books and watched the movies before taking on Skyfall.

[Single-O-Seven]

I would personally love it if they took the buried treasure money laundering scheme from LALD that has still never been adapted for film, but seeing as they haven't even taken that opportunity, I don't think they're interested in anything that could even be misconstrued as a remake.

Agreed on both points. I can imagine that other unused Fleming element, the Garden of Death, could be combined to the basic scheme of LALD, "Mr Bigs" island being like the Garden.

There is SOOOOOOOOO much material from the books that they haven't used, and should mine for material for the films without having to do an outright remake. I think on the whole the novel You Only Live Twice would make a terrific film (under another name, of course. Garden Of Death, perhaps?), and I've been dying to see the garden of death and many, many elements from Live And Let Die make the leap to the big screen.

And I take it as an extremely good sign when Daniel Craig and Sam Mendes said they both reread all the books and watched the movies before taking on Skyfall.

I think a lot of the unused elements from LALD and DAF could be combined to create a concept, set in the US, in which Quantum is utilizing a gold or diamond smuggling scheme while they try to reorganize themselves. It would be a good way to re-introduce and reshape the Quantum idea - they could even rename them. The Spang brothers could finally be brought into the films as the key villains, perhaps working for Blofeld or a Blofeld type.

[Miles Miservy]

Some films could be remade and some films should be left alone - OHMSS = as untouchable as the holy grail.

Films HAVE been remade already; conceptually of course....

TSWLM was a remake of YOLT (swapping out space capsules for submarines)
AVTAK was a remake of GF (swapping out gold for microchips)
DAD was a remake of DAF (satellite concept intact)
FYEO was a remake of FRWL (swapping out ATAK for LEKTOR)

So, it has been done. It probably will BE done again. Who knows? How remote is the possibility that SKYFALL will be a remake of some kind?

Edited by Miles Miservy, 12 October 2012 - 04:00 PM.

[Vauxhall]

Bearing in mind the Ocean's 11's sequel was Ocean's 12, could / would that make it Octopussy 9?

Nonapussy, presumably.

[L4YRCAKE]

Some films could be remade and some films should be left alone - OHMSS = as untouchable as the holy grail.

Films HAVE been remade already; conceptually of course....

TSWLM was a remake of YOLT (swapping out space capsules for submarines)
AVTAK was a remake of GF (swapping out gold for microchips)
DAD was a remake of DAF (satellite concept intact)
FYEO was a remake of FRWL (swapping out ATAK for LEKTOR)

So, it has been done. It probably will BE done again. Who knows? How remote is the possibility that SKYFALL will be a remake of some kind?

AVTAK was a remake of Goldfinger? Huh. Well, that'd never occurred to me before, now you're making me want to go back and rewatch it and I have to say AVTAK is one Bond I saw once and never had the desire...

I think Skyfall will have classic elements, but not a rehash of any older plot points, but who knows? I think it's going to delve into some new territory, hopefully build on the backstory they started talking about in Casino Royale, which we all may have known about from the books but has never really been present in the majority of the Bond films. I mean, had he ever mentioned his parents or that he was an orphan before that?

Plus... Silva, Silva, Silva. Who is that guy?? They're hiding his secrets pretty well...

[Walecs]

as untouchable as the holy grail.

Tell that to Indiana Jones.

Also.

MR was a remake of TSWLM (but in space instead of underwater).

Edited by Walecs, 12 October 2012 - 06:31 PM.

[AgentBentley]

Going for a remake would mean they don't have any new ideas left. Hope it never happens.

[elizabeth]

Absolutely not.

[seawolfnyy]

In my opinion, I think a remake could work if done right.

[dlb007]

Yes, Moonraker. While I do have a soft spot for that particular campy Moore film, I would love to see a straight-forward adaptation of the novel. Obviously, it would need to b e a period movie, especially with Drax' Nazi background. It could be a NSNA type film . . . maybe bring back Brosnan and let him and Tarantino have a go at it.

[Iceskater101]

Absolutely not.

I absolutely agree. I think a remake could work, but it would be very difficult and I would probably end up being disappointed... so I hope no other films are remade.

[IcedCamaro]

Something tells me there is a huge possibility they'll end up remaking OHMSS with Craig. Aren't they doing the whole "character arc from beginning to end" with him? Tracy should in theory appear at some point.

[L4YRCAKE]

Something tells me there is a huge possibility they'll end up remaking OHMSS with Craig. Aren't they doing the whole "character arc from beginning to end" with him? Tracy should in theory appear at some point.

That I have to agree with, I dunno about whether they're doing any 'beginning to end' thing with Craig, but Tracy seems an incredibly important part of Bond's history, even more so than Vesper. Hard to imagine them remaking OHMSS to do that, but I suppose it's possible. The problem is that the film version of OHMSS is already very close to the book, not to mention beloved by hardcore Bond fans.

I'd love to see Mendes do two more Bonds with Craig and then Christopher Nolan steps in and does a SPECTRE/Blofeld/Tracy trilogy, keeping Craig in the role. Of course, I'd also love to grow wings and fly like a bird and be able to breathe underwater like a fish...

[QuantumOfRoyale]

Something tells me there is a huge possibility they'll end up remaking OHMSS with Craig. Aren't they doing the whole "character arc from beginning to end" with him? Tracy should in theory appear at some point.

That I have to agree with, I dunno about whether they're doing any 'beginning to end' thing with Craig, but Tracy seems an incredibly important part of Bond's history, even more so than Vesper. Hard to imagine them remaking OHMSS to do that, but I suppose it's possible. The problem is that the film version of OHMSS is already very close to the book, not to mention beloved by hardcore Bond fans.

I'd love to see Mendes do two more Bonds with Craig and then Christopher Nolan steps in and does a SPECTRE/Blofeld/Tracy trilogy, keeping Craig in the role. Of course, I'd also love to grow wings and fly like a bird and be able to breathe underwater like a fish...

I wouldn't want a straight-up remake of OHMSS, but I would be actually very happy with a Craig Bond film that adapts elements of that story (Bond falling in love and getting married, Bond pursuing Blofeld, etc...)

I think another overall plot would have to serve as backdrop though, for the reasons previously mentioned.

[Redneck007]

No. No remakes. Move on to new stories.

[KM16]

I'd rather them use elements they haven't yet. I believe the suicide garden still hasn't been used, that could be rather interesting.

[Platapus94]

I hope they don't. Bond is classic, in my opinion the originals were better, Bond lived in the 60s. However, I do think that elements from the Fleming novels can be taken to make movies, as the films are usually very different to the original books.

[seawolfnyy]

Yes, Moonraker. While I do have a soft spot for that particular campy Moore film, I would love to see a straight-forward adaptation of the novel. Obviously, it would need to b e a period movie, especially with Drax' Nazi background. It could be a NSNA type film . . . maybe bring back Brosnan and let him and Tarantino have a go at it.

I think Moonraker could be updated without sacrificing much. Instead of a Nazi background, he could have a Soviet background or maybe Serbian. It could be done, but I think sabotaging a rocket would have to be updated to fit into the 21st century.

[Judo chop]

TMWTGG.

If for no other reason than to bring Loomis back.

But, of course, there are other reasons.

[Miles Miservy]

Going for a remake would mean they don't have any new ideas left. Hope it never happens.

You might be more right than you know. On an unrelated page, I read that 20th Century Fox is about to release DIE HARD 5.
The only 2 thoughts that made it into my brain were,
"Really??? Seriously???"

Edited by Miles Miservy, 23 October 2012 - 07:05 PM.

[Judo chop]

The conceptualization of DIE HARD 5 isn't necessarily a sign that writers are out of ideas. To the contrary, I think one has to have quite the imagination to continually and believably subject this poor cop character to such extreme and entirely coincidental circumstances.

[Connerybond]

The first three: Dr No, From Russia With Love and Goldfnger are iconic and should remain as they are. I would not mind On Her Majesty's Secret Service
with Craig.

[FOX MULDER]

"Die Another Day" and "The World Is Not Enough"... seriously.

Both had the potential to be great films, but ended up convoluted and badly acted (Denise Richards, Halle Berry)

[007jamesbond]

I think Dr.No, FRWL, Goldfinger, thunderball should not be remade as they remain faithful to the novel but after that it faithfull adaption disappears until CR......elements of YOLT novel and LALD is still possible and hope we do see it.......especially Garden of Death and smuggling coins which can be adapted to the 21 century.

[Redneck007]

I don't think any should be remade. They are glimpses into their time period. And all in some way are classics...especially the 1960s films. And I don't think a lot of Bond fans would be thrilled to wait a few years if a remake was announced. I would rather see new stories for the period they are made. And I can't see Wilson and Broccoli wanting to risk "bastardizing" Cubby and Harry's life's work (as well as countless dedicated directors, production designers, actors, etc.) by remaking it. You can't polish a turd but you also sometimes can't recreate a gem. Bond films are like fine wines...they get better with time. Another example of this are the Disney animated classics...no one is in a rush to remake those...they are classics in the truest sense.

Edited by Redneck007, 24 October 2012 - 01:44 PM.

[Iceskater101]

I don't think any should be remade. They are glimpses into their time period. And all in some way are classics...especially the 1960s films. And I don't think a lot of Bond fans would be thrilled to wait a few years if a remake was announced. I would rather see new stories for the period they are made. And I can't see Wilson and Broccoli wanting to risk "bastardizing" Cubby and Harry's life's work (as well as countless dedicated directors, production designers, actors, etc.) by remaking it. You can't polish a turd but you also sometimes can't recreate a gem. Bond films are like fine wines...they get better with time. Another example of this are the Disney animated classics...no one is in a rush to remake those...they are classics in the truest sense.

Yes exactly. this is the reason why they should not be remade.

[Tony_OO_Black]

I really hope not.

The good thing is that Wilson/Broccoli have such unprecedented control over Bond that they could two-finger any studio pressure to remake Fleming, which I don't think they'd ever do (out of respect for Cubby, if nothing else).