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Could Skyfall be the one to remember Daniel Craig's era as Bond?


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#1 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 03:10 PM

Casino Royale was a great way to kick off a new Bond and to introduce Daniel Craig. Quantum Of Solace, in my opinion, failed short to impress as a Bond film, but was somewhat still enjoyable. Seeing the photo's, production videos, and all these trailers and tv spots is making me think. Could this be the one that Craig will be remembered by the most? Like all the other actors who have portrayed Bond, they all have that one special Bond film that they are all remembered by. I believe Skyfall could be the one for Daniel Craig.


What are your thoughts on this? Am I alone on this one here?

#2 Chief of SIS

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 03:14 PM

Man, we got this hype train on full throttle this time don't we?

(Do not think I am belittling your comment Ace. I am also very excited. I am just commenting on the general atmosphere.)

#3 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 03:18 PM

I know what you mean Chief. It's certainly got me all wound up and on the edge of my seat waiting for November to come. Just something I was thinking about the other night while watching Thunderball hehe.

#4 DominicGreene

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 03:47 PM

If any Craig film can top Skyfall it WILL be remembered.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:47 PM

As it stands, I think 'Skyfall' will have the memorable elements as a classic James Bond film and a memorable one for Daniel Craig to shine in with the right tools.

Still hard to decide if it will eclipse 'Casino Royale', but I feel it will as everyone loves the debut Bond, but as we know, others are often loved and remembered greater for the right Bond ingredients, and 'Skyfall', with the plot, villain, music, titles, THE line and hopefully gunbarrel, could be the perfect mix and Craig's standout Bond film!

#6 DamnCoffee

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:11 PM

I've been getting the brilliant feeling that this is definately the Bond movie we've been waiting for. Casino Royale is not a Bond film. It's a brilliant origin story that just happens to involve a character called James Bond in it. I think that's why it suceeded, because it was so different. With Skyfall, we have Craig fully settled into the role, with everything that makes a Bond movie. I think most people had misgivings about Quantum of Solace, and EON have realised where they went wrong. They've had 4 years to work on Skyfall, and they have a fantastic director at the helm. I've always tried to have low exepectations with movies. incase I get dissapointed. With this though, I can't shake off the overwhelming feeling that Skyfall will be something very special. Everything released so far, especially the footage, looks beyond promising. I got this feeling with Casino Royale, as well.

Edited by Mharkin, 03 August 2012 - 07:12 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 08:13 PM

Oh I forgot one other ingredient we NEED to have more than anything....a soundtrack with the James Bond theme going through!

No more of that teasing stuff like 'Quantum Of Solace' had. That did the job as a tease for the man himself, but we're on Bond territory now so god hoping we have the music back!!

#8 Matt_13

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 08:52 PM

I was more than confident that Casino Royale would never be topped. Now I'm not so sure...

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:28 AM

I think this movie has the potential/probability of being a classic Bond in the same way that Goldfinger kind of set the mark. I think though the difference is there is an indication that Craig's Bond is going to have potential continuity and a trajectory as a character, so it should be interesting to see how well he can pull that off and where there is to go with a character like James Bond. It seems in many ways every Bond since Goldfinger has been a clone or variation on Goldfinger in a sense, and I hope Craig's Bond parts ways with this trend. So far I think Bond's character is so simple that it makes him complex and most of the films have taken the path of least resistance with him.

Skyfall's success as a Bond film hinges on three things (in my opinion, of course):

1) Whether or not Silva will be a classic, worthy, iconic villain, (fingers crossed, but he does look a little silly so far, but the story will make it work or not. We may have a performance on par with Heath Ledger's Joker.)

2) How M's relationship with Bond will change, move forward, or whatever happens, and

3) Whether Craig's performance is classic or just a bunch of clips of the latest technology that will be dated in five years the way much of Brosnan's movies felt. I think Bond's jump into the train car as he adjusts his cufflinks has settled that debate for me already.

#10 seawolfnyy

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 07:05 AM

I'll reserve judgement until it comes out, but Skyfall looks very much to be the movie that Quantum should have been if it had gotten a full script and better directing. That said, for what Casino Royale did for the franchise, I believe that CR will still be the most recognizable Craig Bond film.

#11 tdalton

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 07:21 AM

Skyfall does indeed look very good at this stage, from the limited material we've seen from it, but trailers and hype surrouding a film have led to disappointment before. Hopefully Skyfall delivers the epic that its trailers so far have promised, but until it proves itself, Casino Royale will be the film that is remembered by the vast majority as Craig's best.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 09:30 AM

Skyfall looks in every way to be as epic as promised, i had a good feeling from day one, at the start at the press conference. I then started to get a little concerned by the amount of London footage seen, but then that i have seen the full trailer and it feels just right, It looks like all the classic ingredients are there. I'm well excited. This film could do what TSWLM did to the Moore era. My only concern is that they don't get to carried away and do another Moonraker. If things carry on like they are then Craig could have the strongest era of Bond.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 09:56 AM

I'd like to think that Quantum Of Solace was Craig's Moonraker, it may well prove to be an important lesson best learned early on.

And I say that as a fan of Moonraker. ;)

#14 Vauxhall

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 12:02 AM

By its very nature as the Bond movie to change the direction and tone of the franchise, many people will always think of CASINO ROYALE first when asked to name a Craig-Bond title. If SKYFALL is as commercially and critically successful as we hope it may well be, that could go a long way to changing that.

Either way, the core of what we know about SKYFALL's story and composition can certainly give it sufficient grounds to ultimately be known as the best piece of cinema to feature James Bond. Time will tell.

#15 JimmyBond

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:37 AM

Who knows. Since Craig may still do a few more (I'm hoping for a total of five, myself) Craig's defining Bond film could still be a ways off. Or...it could be Casino Royale.

Only time will tell.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:50 AM

It will take a lot to top CR, but I hope that they've done it.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:24 PM

does anyone know if Quantum will appear in Skyfall? Or will Skyfall be the Goldfinger of the Craig era and be the one that omits it?

#18 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:46 PM

does anyone know if Quantum will appear in Skyfall? Or will Skyfall be the Goldfinger of the Craig era and be the one that omits it?


I remember Craig said that he was done with that storyline and organization and wanted to move on to another new adventure. Since the four gap between Skyfall and Quantum Of Solace, I like to say that, yes, Bond is done with that and in the four year period has done other missions. Maybe in the future they may try to conclude what was started, MAYBE. As for now, Skyfall is here(almost haha)

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:57 PM

I think Quantum are out of future Bonds. It was a thin attempt to link a Fleming title to a Craig movie plot, and giving him a new SPECTRE but with the daft plot of monopolising water in Bolivia and an inept old man who keeps getting shot as the main man and villains like Le Chiffre who was the best one, and Greene who was so boring, the Quantum vibe started weak and ended weak. There was no greater, evil scheme nodded at, no greater city/country a target and people's lives at stake, no nuclear weapons or hint of menace so they tried for a new SPECTRE and it bombed, so hopefully, sad to say, Quantum should be left to rot now and give Craig stand alone villains and evil to battle!

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:25 PM

I hope you're all right on this. If Craig and company succeed in knocking this one out of the park, the huzzas will have every right to go on for years. Fingers crossed!

#21 Binyamin

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 06:32 PM

I believe they've learned their lessons from Quantum and are doing everything properly this time.

Note also, that the longer the time period between Bond films, the better the result seems to be. The long wait from LTK gave us Goldeneye, from DIE they delivered Casino Royale... and now they have had plenty of time to arrange everything properly for Skyfall.

So yes -- the stars have aligned for this one to be a truly epic Bond.


And that, I believe, was my 1,000th post on CommanderBond.net . How time flies!

#22 L4YRCAKE

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:00 PM

I believe they've learned their lessons from Quantum and are doing everything properly this time.

Note also, that the longer the time period between Bond films, the better the result seems to be. The long wait from LTK gave us Goldeneye, from DIE they delivered Casino Royale... and now they have had plenty of time to arrange everything properly for Skyfall.

So yes -- the stars have aligned for this one to be a truly epic Bond.


And that, I believe, was my 1,000th post on CommanderBond.net . How time flies!


Congrats, friend! Here's to 1000 more. :)

#23 jorgem

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:06 AM

Skyfall should become Daniel Craig's DAD, just like Brosnan did that film in order to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the franchise. That was 10 years ago!

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 08:48 AM

I hope 'Skyfall' will NOT be Craig's 'Die Another Day', because that film was hyped no-end, but then on face value it was a horrid Bond film and the fall-out afterwards pretty much helped stop Brosnan's run of Bond and usher in a new direction for the franchise.

This, I hope, as said in other threads, could be the 'Goldfinger' or 'The Spy Who Loved Me' for Craig's run.

#25 jorgem

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:50 PM

I hope 'Skyfall' will NOT be Craig's 'Die Another Day', because that film was hyped no-end, but then on face value it was a horrid Bond film and the fall-out afterwards pretty much helped stop Brosnan's run of Bond and usher in a new direction for the franchise.

This, I hope, as said in other threads, could be the 'Goldfinger' or 'The Spy Who Loved Me' for Craig's run.


And that's why the release of every Bond film were switched from odd to even numbered years since 2002. Bond 23 supposed to be released on 2007, which would become the perfect year for Bond.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 03:10 PM

I'll be remembering the Craig era for both his previous films CR and QOS which I think were simply classics. They blew me away!!!! Obviously because of one simple factor - Mr Craig himself and the way he portrayed OO7.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:19 AM

Who knows. Since Craig may still do a few more (I'm hoping for a total of five, myself) Craig's defining Bond film could still be a ways off. Or...it could be Casino Royale.

Only time will tell.


I was actually going to say just that, and then realized I probably already said that in this thread :P Judging from all we now know about Skyfall, I think it very well could be his "Goldfinger." I still think Casino Royale will be the one to remember since it was so different, and also because it was the first (and so far only) Bond film that received almost unanimous praise.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:13 AM

Casino Royale set the bar pretty high. Very hard to top not only a movie based on a Fleming novel, but amovie based on the very first Bond novel. The story we all hoped against hope would finally be told and told well by the franchise.
Skyfall is on my mind so much that I found myself humming the theme song on and off through the work day today.

But as much as I'm waiting with baited breath for it to open, I would be pleasantly surprised if it tops CR.

#29 Armand Fancypants

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 09:14 PM

Note also, that the longer the time period between Bond films, the better the result seems to be. The long wait from LTK gave us Goldeneye, from DIE they delivered Casino Royale... and now they have had plenty of time to arrange everything properly for Skyfall.


The longer gap after TMWTGG also delivered TSWLM.

That being said, the theory doesn't always come off... we had to wait 3 years to get DAD.

#30 Iceskater101

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 11:28 PM

I think it very well could be. It might be hard though because Casino Royale was so good. I don't know, we shall see!