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Continuity flaw in Casino Royale

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#1 Miles Miservy

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 01:54 PM

When the building collapsed and everything went into the canal (Vesper & the money included), how did White get his hands on the briefcase, just sitting there, dry and pristene?

#2 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:51 PM

Hm, nice question! Never thought about it really.

I guess when Gettler and the crew run into the building with Vesper and the case, it takes Bond a while to get in, and as they are running around taking defence positions inside, I presume one of the goons, or even Gettler, quickly meets Mr White and gives him the case for him to move to the next building, where we then see him watching at the end...?


Far-fetched I know, but I don't know the real answer...guess it's just one of the many movie fabrications we just have to deal with..!

#3 hilly

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 04:25 PM

I'd always assumed that, as it was light and in a waterproof samsonite case, it would have just floated to the surface.. But, let's face it, there are far more implausible things to deal with than that!

#4 MajorB

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:42 PM

Wasn't there even a shot of it floating at one point? Like hilly, I just assumed it floated to somewhere that White could fish it out of the water.

We never did see what happened to that case. Bond doesn't seem to have delivered it to M in Sienna. Maybe that's where he got a brand-new Aston Martin so quickly. . .

#5 AMC Hornet

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:21 PM

I've always wondered why David Arnold named the piece of music that accompanied Bond tracking Vesper down in Venice "The Switch"?

Nothing got switched that I'm aware of - unless it has something to do with Bond realizing that Vesper had switched sides.

Anyway, of course Bond didn't deliver the case to M, or get his new Aston Martin 'so quickly' in Sienna. As has been pointed out in other threads, it took time to track Mr. White to his Italian villa - time enough for MI6 to be satisfied that Mathis was innocent of collusion with Quantum and to set him up in his own Italian villa. I think it probably took M longer than that to decide she could trust 007 with another cherry Aston.

#6 Vauxhall

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:47 PM

I also just assumed that the case happened to float conveniently to the surface, where Mr White was able to fish it out of the water at his leisure, while Bond was busying himself with attempting to free Vesper.

#7 Binyamin

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 02:57 AM

Wasn't this addressed in one of the "behind the scenes" interviews on the DVD? Somebody admitted that they "lost track" of the briefcase and kind of hoped nobody would notice...

#8 x007AceOfSpades

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 05:35 AM

I've noticed it but never really thought of it as a flaw. Like some have stated, I always figured it floated to a close enough spot where White was able to grab it.

#9 DR76

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

I've noticed it but never really thought of it as a flaw. Like some have stated, I always figured it floated to a close enough spot where White was able to grab it.



I originally saw the suitcase floating in the water. Then I saw Mr. White walking away with it. It's possible that x007AceOfSpades is right.

#10 AMC Hornet

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

If you want a continuity flaw, what about the fact that the 'ellipsis' message was sent in July 2006 (according to what was printed on the security DVD at the Ocean Club) and that QoS takes place on the heels of CR, some time in 2008?

I have argued that Bond must have spent at least a few weeks recovering in the Italian clinic, then spent a few more wandering aimlessly with Vesper, and that the last scene must have taken place a good 18 months after the showdown in Venice, but others have argued that it wouldn't take that long to track down a cell phone, and that a gangster like Mr. White wouldn't keep a cell phone that long anyway. Exactly - that's why it took so long to track him down! Long enough for 007 to have gain some perspective and to present himself as the well-dressed, cool-as-ice blunt instrument that we've all come to know and love. Long enough for MI6 to clear Mathis and set him up up in a villa in Italy, anyway.

But not long enough, apparently, for Bond to cool down and seek Vesper's handlers dispassionately. All his emotional recovery is for naught once he has Mr. White in custody.

Ah, well, that was almost four years ago (long enough for Quantum to have either been decimated or to have regained lost ground). I wonder what James has been up to since?

#11 DamnCoffee

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Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

Continuity flaw in thread title. Fixed. :)

#12 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:58 PM

Ah, the dreaded continuity flaws... always happen because of rewrites and changes during production. Details that have been thought out get mixed up or lost. A typical writer┬┤s nightmare since he is always taking the blame...