#1
Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:15 PM
Was reading their preview of 2012's upcoming films this morning, the Skyfall description sort of stopped me dead:
The first James Bond film in four years. Daniel Craig returns. Sam Mendes directs. We get Javier Bardem AND Ralph Fiennes as bad guys. And we get to see the characters of Miss Moneypenny and Q come into this iteration of the franchise. Yeah, I'm excited for SKYFALL. The story - about a downed intel satellite and the scrambling of various government agencies to retrieve it - seems genuinely different than the plots we're used to. But Craig has brought to Bond the grit and grim that i've wanted ever since I saw my first Bond film (FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, if you're curious). I think Craig is the best version of the character yet - and yes, I've seen, and love, the Connery films - and I'd bet that Ian Fleming didn't figure on how this character has stayd so cool throughout the years. SKYFALL may just be what Bond fans have been waiting for.
Have I missed this up until now? Had this been suggested somewhere else? Or is it new? (*cough* fabricated *cough*)
I didn't think AICN typically made things up outright. Intriguing if true.
#2
Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:21 PM
Still, interesting though. Not sure how it'd tie up with the "M's past comes back to haunt her" thing.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:22 PM
#4
Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:28 PM
The concept of competing agents or governments racing to recover a secret of some kind isn't new. The trick, as always, lies in the execution. I'm not sure how reliable this report may be, but, if true, it may be a sign that EON is prepared to introduce a greater element of the fantastic into the Craig films.Sounds like a rehash of the ATAC MacGuffin.
Still, interesting though. Not sure how it'd tie up with the "M's past comes back to haunt her" thing.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:31 PM
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:38 PM
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 05:46 PM
#8
Posted 01 January 2012 - 06:07 PM
Would be a fantastic premisse.I wonder if it's some conceit that parallel to James Bond in the British government, other governments have had equivalently brilliant and super agents (Messrs Bardem and Feinnes, say), and it all becomes a mad scramble by these 00-panache equivalents to find this thingy.
#9
Posted 01 January 2012 - 06:47 PM
Oddly, just the othe other day, I was watching "Ice Station Zebra" - One of my favorites and a great movie if you haven't seen it.
Now, reading this and thinking back to my wishes for Bond 23 over the last few years, well, be careful of what you wish for.
- A stand alone Bond from the previous two - ala' Goldfinger, and a good old "follow/seek the prize (aka: MacGuffin) " sort of plot. FRWL and the Lektor, FYEO and the A.T.A.C. , The solex in TMWTGG et al.
Jim's notion of spy-vs. spy for a see who can get it first and hold on to it the longest and have it in the end bit could be wonderful. With the British stake being higher as the satellite may contain whatever info that would destroy M, it's a combination of Bond's loyalty to his job and to M herself.
I'd have to say this is our first solid tip as AICN rep has grown in terms of reliability consistantly over the years IMO.
So, let the continued speculation...er...continue.
From L.A. with Love on the first day of 2012 - Cheers.
#10
Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:01 PM
Give me a break.....I hope it is something original folks.
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:07 PM
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 07:26 PM
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Posted 01 January 2012 - 08:04 PM
#14
Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:05 PM
Mine was the climax of High Time to Kill - the race between Bond and The Union to get to the downed plane.My first thought was also FYEO.
Anyway, I'm not buynug into this (not yet). A quick search of Google News for "Skyfall" only reveals Ralph Fiennes' interview with The Daily Record. Nothing on plot.
#15
Posted 01 January 2012 - 10:31 PM
I wonder if it's some conceit that parallel to James Bond in the British government, other governments have had equivalently brilliant and super agents (Messrs Bardem and Feinnes, say), and it all becomes a mad scramble by these 00-panache equivalents to find this thingy.
That's a very interesting idea for a Bond film (albeit that the series has arguably given us 00-panache equivalents before - see Anya Amasova and Wai Lin, for instance, although there's an obvious difference when it comes to casting blokes in such roles). As long as it doesn't become some sort of buddy movie, with Craig, Bardem and Fiennes setting aside their differences for The Greater Good and high-fiving each other at the end and buying each other pints. That would not be on.
#16
Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:11 AM
Anyway, it's great that they're throwing in some real spy stuff.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:32 AM
#18
Posted 02 January 2012 - 01:56 AM
Sounds cool to me - definitely fits with the title, which has always sounded like an operational codename to me. "Skyfall" might be the emergency procedure the British government has when a satellite fails orbit, containing sensitive information (IE the incriminating kind from M's past).
True or not, this does sound cool to me as well. Spy versus spy.I wonder if it's some conceit that parallel to James Bond in the British government, other governments have had equivalently brilliant and super agents (Messrs Bardem and Feinnes, say), and it all becomes a mad scramble by these 00-panache equivalents to find this thingy.
Fiennes did say he was playing a government agent...
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 02:58 AM
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#21
Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:14 AM
Maybe he's unaware that it's not widely known.Interesting idea, but it's strange how he just casually stuck this in the middle of an article as if it was already a widely known fact.
Huh? The paragraph from AICN makes no mention of that - only that various agencies want to get their hands on it, which to me implies that it would be something of a race. I don't know where you're getting the idea of this collective approach from ... except maybe Jim's post, but I ignored that because I assumed it would just be snark.In a way, this idea strikes me as a reverse of Goldeneye. In that film, we have two agents who worked together but went go separate ways. In this rumour, we'd see what it would've been like if Bond decided to stay on and join the scheme.
#22
Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:22 AM
Interesting idea, but it's strange how he just casually stuck this in the middle of an article as if it was already a widely known fact.
That's what surprised me.
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Posted 02 January 2012 - 03:23 AM
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#29
Posted 02 January 2012 - 06:46 PM
(read with spanish accent )"Who says a villain is really...a bad person" - Javier Bardem at SF Press Conference. Different agencies with different agents all with the same agenda, ..., could make for the first Bond film without a true villain. Interesting.
"without a true villain" I doubt that a lot.
Anyway it is a little strange the "Fiennes-Finney" thing. If there is some kind of twist in the movie, I think it would be quite difficult that the fans wouldn´t know before the release of the film (remember Elektra-Sophie Marceau). So let´s hope the screenwriters hadn´t made that kind of "surprise" in the middle of a Bond movie.
By the way, I don´t know if it had been said in the forum. A couple of months ago Pilar Bardem (mother of Javier and also an actress) took a prize for his son and said, more or less:
"Sorry for Javier. He couldn´t came because he is trying to kill James Bond"
Not much but maybe she knows something that we don´t ¿?
#30
Posted 02 January 2012 - 07:51 PM
"Sorry for Javier. He couldn´t came because he is trying to kill James Bond"
Cool mom.