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[x007AceOfSpades]

The P99 fit Brosnan I'm my opinion for his films.

It was good for Craig In Casino Royale. But I think the PPK is more for his his hard edge style.

PPK is a small, but effective pistol. Its lightweight and can be concealed more easily than the bigger P99.

[Skudor]

There's something very BOND about the PKK, small and pitiful looking as it may be.

[x007AceOfSpades]

There's something very BOND about the PKK, small and pitiful looking as it may be.

Exactly! Its just weird not having Bond have it.

[Leon]

Wow, another one of these threads?

PPK. Always.

[Double-0-7]

AR-7 (stated as .25 but is actually .22LR) - FRWL
Walther P-38 - GF
Binelli 12 shotgun and assorted spearguns - TB
S&W model 10, .38 - YOLT
Sterling MK. IV - OHMSS
Piton gun - DAF
S&W M29 .44 - LALD
Custom triggerless rifle - TMWTGG
Sterling MK IV, ski pole-rifle and bolt/gas gun - TSWLM
Holland & Holland double barrel shotgun - MR
M-16 & Walther P-5 - OP
Winchester pump action .12 ga. shotgun - AVTAK
WA-2000 sniper rifle, AK-47 - TLD,
Taurus 99 9mm, Speargun w/ line, Signature camera rifle - LTK
AK-47 - GE
AK-47, HK MP5 and MP5K - TND
Colt .45 - TWINE
Mac-10, .38 S&W - DAD
Browning HP, HK MP5 - CR
HK MP5, Sig PR26 and Beretta 93 LS - QOS

I *think* that covers it. Granted, mostly from memory and one or two I'd like to double check, but that's for another day.

Not that 003 pays much attention to weapons or anything!

I've had the pleasure of shooting a nice selection from his arsenal, and there isn't a clunker in the bunch.

[x007AceOfSpades]

For list of weapons in Casino Royale
http://www.imfdb.org...o_Royale_(2006)


For list of weapons in Quantum Of Solace
http://www.imfdb.org...antum_of_solace

[Bryce (003)]

I do stand corrected on a few. Medrono's gun. Looked like a long slide Beretta, but alas, another Sig.

HK have so many variations of the same gun. Yeah, the UMP.

My memory must be going.

Cheers for the links though!

[x007AceOfSpades]

I do stand corrected on a few. Medrono's gun. Looked like a long slide Beretta, but alas, another Sig.

HK have so many variations of the same gun. Yeah, the UMP.

My memory must be going.

Cheers for the links though!

No problem Gent. I did look like a long slided Beretta.

I'm sure once more images for Skyfall are released and we get the first trailer, the site update it's directory for Skyfall with images and info on the weapons used in the film.

[larrythefatcat]

Well I for one have always wanted to see the scene in which Bonds Beretta jams and leads to the incident M mentioned. Was hoping it would happen in Casino Royale...and in the same vein really wanted him to be first be seen driving a new Bentley continental (rather than that product placement Ford...) before earning his Aston Martin.

That said I'd be happy with both...the PPK with the tux,and the P99 with casuals/combat gear.

I know it's been a while since this post was made, but the Beretta jamming incident was a reference to the end of FRWL... since the movie version of that was filmed after Dr. No (obviously) I'm guessing we won't ever see that situation.

[occhile007]

Thanks for the help

I'll sort it out for you, don't worry.

Mharkin.

Remember in DAD, the teaser poster showed a beretta with a silencer. I wonder if this was the producers inside joke or something. Also, this was probably a goof, but if you watch Dr. No, the scene where he is shooting at the Dragon at nighttime , it will switch from the ppk to a 1911 colt. So, techincally, he used a beretta, ppk and colt. Just saying.

Another thought I had, should 007 use a silencer in this film? we haven't seen the silenced ppk since TND.

[larrythefatcat]

Thanks for the help

I'll sort it out for you, don't worry.

Mharkin.

Remember in DAD, the teaser poster showed a beretta with a silencer. I wonder if this was the producers inside joke or something. Also, this was probably a goof, but if you watch Dr. No, the scene where he is shooting at the Dragon at nighttime , it will switch from the ppk to a 1911 colt. So, techincally, he used a beretta, ppk and colt. Just saying.

Another thought I had, should 007 use a silencer in this film? we haven't seen the silenced ppk since TND.

I wouldn't necessarily say that the Dr. No change in guns was a goof... there are many bits of intentional discontinuity in that film.

[British Chap]

Bond should always use the PPK. So happy to see him with it in the new still.

Wish they would've equipped him with it in the Goldeneye remake.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Thanks for the help

I'll sort it out for you, don't worry.

Mharkin.

Remember in DAD, the teaser poster showed a beretta with a silencer. I wonder if this was the producers inside joke or something. Also, this was probably a goof, but if you watch Dr. No, the scene where he is shooting at the Dragon at nighttime , it will switch from the ppk to a 1911 colt. So, techincally, he used a beretta, ppk and colt. Just saying.

Another thought I had, should 007 use a silencer in this film? we haven't seen the silenced ppk since TND.

Silenced or loud.

Go loud or go home.

Go silent or go home.

It doesn't really matter to me.

prefferably loud when he has no choice but to use it. and silent when he's doing recon and stealth work.

[Triton]

The PPK was released by Walther in 1931. Isn't the gun long in the tooth at 80-years-old? I believe that Bond fans are too attached to gun out of nostalgia. Jeffrey Deaver gave Bond the Walther PPS (Polizei-Pistole Schmal) in his recent re-boot book Carte Blanche.

It seems old-fashioned to see Daniel Craig carrying the Walther PPK in the recently released still from Skyfall. The film series should follow suit and retire the PPK and replace it with the P99-derived PPS.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The PPK was released by Walther in 1931. Isn't the gun long in the tooth at 80-years-old? I believe that Bond fans are too attached to gun out of nostalgia. Jeffrey Deaver gave Bond the Walther PPS (Polizei-Pistole Schmal) in his recent re-boot book Carte Blanche.

It seems old-fashioned to see Daniel Craig carrying the Walther PPK in the recently released still from Skyfall. The film series should follow suit and retire the PPK and replace it with the P99-derived PPS.

I don't mind the PPK, I think it suits him. The P99 just seems out of place with Craig as Bond.

Now the PPS, that I DON'T mind at all, if I had to choose either the PPK or the PPS, I would choose the PPS hands down.

[Triton]

I always felt that the introduction of the P99 in Tomorrow Never Dies was that Walther gave Eon Production a product placement deal to include the new gun in the movie. I could be wrong, but that is what it seems like. I believe that the P99 is just too large to be a credible concealed weapon for James Bond.

Though, don't we fans want our dinner jacket-wearing hero to have the best weapon available to stop the villain and his/her henchmen?

I would presume that the Walther PPS is a better gun than the 80+ year old PPK.

[The Shark]

I would presume that the Walther PPS is a better gun than the 80+ year old PPK.

Perhaps, but compared to the PPK, the PPS looks pretty damn ugly.

[Harmsway]

Yep. And as far as films go, I'd prefer the weapons to be chosen for their aesthetic value than for their real-life practicality. It's a film, after all, and a James Bond film, at that.

If you can show me a more contemporary replacement for the PPK that nevertheless has the same level of aesthetic appeal, I won't mind a change-up. But the P99 and PPS don't really cut it.

[The Shark]

Exactly. Bond films about their imagery, not how to true to life they are. I like the look of the Ruger Mk. III though.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Comparison between the Walther PPS and PPK

Edited by x007AceOfSpades, 03 February 2012 - 04:12 AM.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Yep. And as far as films go, I'd prefer the weapons to be chosen for their aesthetic value than for their real-life practicality. It's a film, after all, and a James Bond film, at that.

If you can show me a more contemporary replacement for the PPK that nevertheless has the same level of aesthetic appeal, I won't mind a change-up. But the P99 and PPS don't really cut it.

Completely agree. I have yet to see a good replacement for the PPK as Bond's primary weapon. I have no issue with the P99 if its for a planned operation or assault.

[DamnCoffee]

I adore the PPK, and think that the gun suits Bond perfectly. I feel the P99 is too bulky, although it does look breathtaking silenced. I think that's the only time I prefer it.

[occhile007]

I wonder if they will temporarily bring back ppk and then upgrade Bond to something like the pps. Like have the new, younger Q, be like "50 years with the same weapon 007? Maybe its time for an upgrade?

"An upgrade Q, you must be joking? I'm the new buff, bad Bond if you haven't heard..."

"I never joke about my work 007. Now here's your new watch and your Muscle Milk."

[PPK/s]

Browning HP, HK MP5 - CR
HK MP5, Sig PR26 and Beretta 93 LS - QOS

I believe that was a HK UMP 9mm in QOS and CR, not the MP5. Also Bond uses a Sig P226 and a Sig P210 in QOS. I don't recall him using a Beretta 93.

[x007AceOfSpades]

Browning HP, HK MP5 - CR
HK MP5, Sig PR26 and Beretta 93 LS - QOS

I believe that was a HK UMP 9mm in QOS and CR, not the MP5. Also Bond uses a Sig P226 and a Sig P210 in QOS. I don't recall him using a Beretta 93.

Correct, he did use a Beretta, when the corrupt Bolivian police officers made Bond pull over the Range Over, which i when he opened the trunk and discovered the body of Mathis.

The police officers shot Mathis so Bond disarmed them and fired a few shots, not at them though, followed by him tossing the gun after pulling the slide back and releasing the mag.

[AMC Hornet]

The police officers shot Mathis so Bond disarmed them and fired a few shots, not at them though, followed by him tossing the gun after pulling the slide back and releasing the mag.

Actually, Bond did shoot the two cops before working the slide repeatedly to eject the remaining rounds (remember, it was reported to M that Bond had 'murdered' Mathis and two policemen).

Just sayin'.

Doesn't Walther make a 9mm PPK that has the same profile as the "popgun" that Whittaker sneered at? That's what I thought Sean was carrying in NSNA. The P5 looked good in Roger's beefy hands in OP too.

Edited by AMC Hornet, 05 February 2012 - 12:23 AM.

[RufusCobb]

It just occured to me... are there any other films besides LALD & DAD in which OO7 fires a revolver??

I had to check the DVD to be sure but he uses a revolver in YOLT. In the final battle scene in the volcano, he picks up Blofeld's revolver after he has failed to kill Bond. Bond then uses it to shoot a coupld of guards as he makes his way up to the contol room.

[Bryce (003)]

I had forgotten about the Beretta he took off the cops in QOS. Probably a standard 92-F. Forgive my typo on the Sig mentioned above. It is a P226. As to the Walther, the P-5 is 9mm. Bond's PPK in TLD must be the 7.65 (.32) since he lets off eight rounds. The 7.65 takes seven in the clip plus one in the pipe. The .25 and .22 LR both take eight in a full mag. The .380 (9mm short) - the current PPK I own - takes six in the clip.

Had a great day at the range yesterday. Took the PPK, Browning HP and ASP "out for a spin" with a 100 rounds each.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The police officers shot Mathis so Bond disarmed them and fired a few shots, not at them though, followed by him tossing the gun after pulling the slide back and releasing the mag.

Actually, Bond did shoot the two cops before working the slide repeatedly to eject the remaining rounds (remember, it was reported to M that Bond had 'murdered' Mathis and two policemen).

Just sayin'.

Doesn't Walther make a 9mm PPK that has the same profile as the "popgun" that Whittaker sneered at? That's what I thought Sean was carrying in NSNA. The P5 looked good in Roger's beefy hands in OP too.

After throwing the disc in and watching the scene again, you are correct.

I could't remember if he shot themor fired off warning shots after throwing them a beating.

[cdsdss]

My $.02 is that Bond go with the PPS. It's about the same size as a PPK, and just as slim (the name means "Police Pistol Slim"). Furthermore, it carries the heavier, more-powerful 9mm round. Mine is so accurate it almost takes the fun out of shooting, and is my dedicated off-duty weapon.

The P-5 is just an updated P-38 with a low round-count for a gun that big (it's about the same size as most service pistols, but carries half as many rounds), and a Eurpoean-style mag release which makes combat reloads impossible. The P-5 Compact, which has the standard thumb-release button might have been an option, but they've been out of production for years and most police forces are phasing them out.

The PPK is fun little pistol--I love mine--but not a serious duty weapon, IMHO. It's profile is a bit small onscreen, too. Still, I don't mind too much. As long as Bond is back onscreen.