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[deth]

http://www.hollywood...-quantum-203094

I'm pretty surprised to hear him talk about it this way, even though it may be true in some respects. Given the critical opinion of his latest film, maybe he shouldn't be trashing other films right now...

[SecretAgentFan]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/casino-royale-director-calls-quantum-203094

I'm pretty surprised to hear him talk about it this way, even though it may be true in some respects. Given the critical opinion of his latest film, maybe he shouldn't be trashing other films right now...

Seems like taken from the TOTAL FILM quote (see thread to that). Unless Campbell bashed QOS in every interview he gave for his new, um, not lousy film.

[deth]

oh, I didn't see that thread (did a search and didn't see it). It seems like it's a recent quote anyway...

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

"That'd be the most plausible explaination"

CAMPBELL ROCKS!

[Mr. Blofeld]

You're the odd man out, here, Nickie-boy...

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Why can't I give my own opinion?

I should say "Campbell is a smartass and Forster is the ebst Bond director ever" so i can get a +25 reputation score?

[Goodnight]

Why can't I give my own opinion?

Right you are my dear!

[Loomis]

Well, Campbell is quite right about QUANTUM OF SOULLESS. The fact that he's made bad films himself doesn't mean that he has no right to air his opinions of QUANTUM OF SUCKAGE.

Good to see him giving Mendes his blessing. Hopefully the next Bond flick will be a massive improvement on the last one, but who knows? Perhaps it'll be even worse. Time will tell.

[Baccarat]

I sometimes wonder if those who rubbish QoS have ever actually seen DAF, TMWTGG, AVTAK, DAD...

Edited by Baccarat, 20 June 2011 - 11:03 PM.

[Loomis]

I sometimes wonder if those who rubbish QoS have ever actually seen DAF, TMWTGG, AVTAK, DAD...

Many times. TMWTGG is my favourite Bond film, and I'm also very fond of AVTAK and DAD. Not quite so wild about DAF, but it still has its moments.

All of those films are significantly superior to the joyless, charmless, messy and pretentious QUANTUM OF SOLACE. Indeed, every Bond film is significantly superior to QOS, with the possible exception of THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

[Mr. Arlington Beech]

I sometimes wonder if those who rubbish QoS have ever actually seen DAF, TMWTGG, AVTAK, DAD...

And I don't understand why many of the QOS defenders always have to talk about the extremes... I don't like any of the movies from the Brosnan era (yes, including GE)- and while I don't have much problems with DAF, TMWTGG and AVTAK, I do think they're just average Bond movies; and that's exactly what I feel for QOS only that for different reasons. In fact, my only big problem with QOS is its pretentiousness, that some fans insist on buying as a pure demonstration of art: i.e. as someone pointed in another forum, we have have an action scene for each of the four elements, but why, just for the sake of seem more artistic or experimental.

Edited by Mr. Arlington Beech, 21 June 2011 - 02:37 AM.

[Mr. Blofeld]

QUANTUM OF SOULLESS [...] QUANTUM OF SUCKAGE

Giving the film a derogatory nickname automatically disqualifies you from commenting; thus, your opinion is invalid, old boy.

[Baccarat]

And I don't understand why many of the QOS defenders always have to talk about the extremes...

So it's okay to compare QoS to some Bond films, but not others (the "extremes" as you call them)? I think your comment is a tacit acknowledgement that QoS is far from the worst Bond film. Otherwise, you'd have more faith in nonsense like TMWTGG, AVTAK, and DAD.

[Righty007]

Why can't I give my own opinion?

I should say "Campbell is a smartass and Forster is the ebst Bond director ever" so i can get a +25 reputation score?

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

[DR76]

Why is it so damn important that everybody believes that QUANTUM OF SOLACE was a terrible Bond movie? Guess what? Not everyone does. Hell, I think it was a better follow-up to the tragic ending CASINO ROYALE, than DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER was for OHMSS.

Screw Martin Campbell. Just because he's a director, I'm not going to mindlessly accept every damn thing that comes out of his mouth.

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

Why do we have to listen to you and not Mr. Blofeld? Because he doesn't agree with your opinion?

[Righty007]

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

Why do we have to listen to you and not Mr. Blofeld? Because he doesn't agree with your opinion?

What are you talking about? I don't care whether or not anybody at CBn agrees with my opinions.

My post criticizing Mr. Blofeld was in response to his rude treatment of my pal, Nicolas Suszczyk. You would have figured that out had you actually read some of the preceding posts.

[DR76]

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

Why do we have to listen to you and not Mr. Blofeld? Because he doesn't agree with your opinion?

What are you talking about? I don't care whether or not anybody at CBn agrees with my opinions.

My post criticizing Mr. Blofeld was in response to his rude treatment of my pal, Nicolas Suszczyk. You would have figured that out had you actually read some of the preceding posts.

I did. Perhaps you shouldn't have posted anything . . . or just send him a private message.

[Righty007]

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

Why do we have to listen to you and not Mr. Blofeld? Because he doesn't agree with your opinion?

What are you talking about? I don't care whether or not anybody at CBn agrees with my opinions.

My post criticizing Mr. Blofeld was in response to his rude treatment of my pal, Nicolas Suszczyk. You would have figured that out had you actually read some of the preceding posts.

I did. Perhaps you shouldn't have posted anything . . . or just send him a private message.

I think you mean't to say: I did. In my opinion, perhaps you shouldn't have posted anything . . . or just send him a private message.

Luckily we're all entitled to our own opinions.

[DR76]

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

Why do we have to listen to you and not Mr. Blofeld? Because he doesn't agree with your opinion?

What are you talking about? I don't care whether or not anybody at CBn agrees with my opinions.

My post criticizing Mr. Blofeld was in response to his rude treatment of my pal, Nicolas Suszczyk. You would have figured that out had you actually read some of the preceding posts.

I did. Perhaps you shouldn't have posted anything . . . or just send him a private message.

I think you mean't to say: I did. In my opinion, perhaps you shouldn't have posted anything . . . or just send him a private message.

Luckily we're all entitled to our own opinions.

No kidding.

[Jim]

An edifying debate.

[Dustin]

Campbell's opinion on QOS is worth as much as anybody else's. In two regards it might even be called more informed: Campbell's a director himself and he has actually worked for the series twice! So he should certainly know what he's talking about.
That said it's still the opinion of a competitor on the market, and one competitor with a completely different approach to the work at hand. I doubt very much Forster and Campbell will ever again work for the same franchise or end up on the shortlist for the same project. I see his critique as hardly surprising, given the fact that Campbell's QOS would have been a completely different film. Primarily because he would have had an entirely different script and probably wouldn't have referred to CR at all. I daresay he would have played it extremely safe and overall I doubt I would have preferred that result to QOS, despite its weaknesses.

[Miles Miservy]

oh, I didn't see that thread (did a search and didn't see it). It seems like it's a recent quote anyway...

I cannot emphasize enough how strongly I disagree that Quantum was a bad movie. The way it was written, you could consider Casino Royale to be the film's entire pre-title sequence. It worked well as a sequel, being the only film of its kind that did that; a well-done 2nd act. I wonder what Daniel Craig's 3rd installment will be like.

If ever I had to make a choice, I feel that Die Another Day was the worst of the series. The one film that tries too hard, only to come off looking ridiculous. Although all Bond films are fantasy-adventures, this one went over the top, reminding the audience that there'd been 20 movies that preceded it. Aside from Q's lab, there are references to every previous film. Some are blatant; others... not so much.

[Bucky]

it makes Campbell sound like a bitter old

Edited by Bucky, 21 June 2011 - 03:05 PM.

[iBond]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/casino-royale-director-calls-quantum-203094

I'm pretty surprised to hear him talk about it this way, even though it may be true in some respects. Given the critical opinion of his latest film, maybe he shouldn't be trashing other films right now...

Well, then he should come back to direct another film if he disliked the new film directed by Sam Mendes. You know how the saying goes, "If you want something done, you gotta do it yourself."

[Righty007]

http://www.hollywood...-quantum-203094

I'm pretty surprised to hear him talk about it this way, even though it may be true in some respects. Given the critical opinion of his latest film, maybe he shouldn't be trashing other films right now...

Well, then he should come back to direct another film if he disliked the new film directed by Sam Mendes. You know how the saying goes, "If you want something done, you gotta do it yourself."

You mean Marc Forster?

[iBond]

http://www.hollywood...-quantum-203094

I'm pretty surprised to hear him talk about it this way, even though it may be true in some respects. Given the critical opinion of his latest film, maybe he shouldn't be trashing other films right now...

Well, then he should come back to direct another film if he disliked the new film directed by Sam Mendes. You know how the saying goes, "If you want something done, you gotta do it yourself."

You mean Marc Forster?

If he dislikes the new film directed by Sam Mendes. My bad, I used the wrong tense.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Why can't I give my own opinion?

I should say "Campbell is a smartass and Forster is the ebst Bond director ever" so i can get a +25 reputation score?

Don't listen to Mr. Blofeld. He's a bitter young man with nothing better to do than irritate people on a James Bond discussion forum.

I know my Campbell-shooting-Marc grafitti is somewhat irritating for those Forster lovers, but I've seen many pleople criticizing Pierce, Campbell and GoldenEye (my favourite people/films related to the world of Bond) and I said nothing just because it is their opinion and I respected... Or just because I don't like to find out I have "poor" reputation just because I said I love TND, or that the Barrel is misplaced at the end, etc.
CBn used to be a place where I felt respected before 2009.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

I sometimes wonder if those who rubbish QoS have ever actually seen DAF, TMWTGG, AVTAK, DAD...

I did.

The Man with the Golden Gun: I love it! The first "old" Bond film I watced. My dad bought me the VHS when I was 8. Entertaining.

Die Another Day: Weak film, but it still has some good touches (ie. Bond punching Mr Krug to gain access to the Alvarez clinic)

Diamonds Are Forever: Maybe Gray's Blofeld is just a namesake of the guy who killed Bond's wife, but the music's gorgeous, and the locations, and the dialogues are interesting.

A View to a Kill: Weak again, boring, Rog was getting old but... Isn't Max Zorin a villain to be afraid of? Greene has some charisma but I could beat him in a bar fight!

The most important point: they're CLASSIC Bond films (yep, even Die Another Day).

[TheREAL008]

Let's see him trash other movies now in light of Green Lantern's 'success'.

[Mr. Arlington Beech]

And I don't understand why many of the QOS defenders always have to talk about the extremes... I don't like any of the movies from the Brosnan era (yes, including GE)- and while I don't have much problems with DAF, TMWTGG and AVTAK, I do think they're just average Bond movies; and that's exactly what I feel for QOS only that for different reasons. In fact, my only big problem with QOS is its pretentiousness, that some fans insist on buying as a pure demonstration of art: i.e. as someone pointed in another forum, we have have an action scene for each of the four elements, but why, just for the sake of seem more artistic or experimental.

So it's okay to compare QoS to some Bond films, but not others (the "extremes" as you call them)? I think your comment is a tacit acknowledgement that QoS is far from the worst Bond film.

But, of course... However, being "far from the worst" doesn't make it a great Bond movie or a high work of art, as some fans here (and almost only in this site) seems to think, after buying all the pointless intellectual pretentiousness done by Forster for this flick.

Edited by Mr. Arlington Beech, 21 June 2011 - 07:24 PM.