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[j7wild]

Adrianne Palicki is the New Wonder Woman;

a tv series being developed for NBC for Fall 2011.

I think this costume is awful!!



We've waited how many years now for a new Wonder Woman series and they give us THIS costume? Seriously? @#$%?! Even though it slightly resembles (and not in a good way) the new costume in the DC comics, I've seen more impressive Wonder Woman costumes at my local Halloween parade and local strip club. Wow, I'm shocked that they even came up with something this freaking awful.

[Dell Deaton]

Adrianne Palicki is the New Wonder Woman;

a tv series being developed for NBC for Fall 2011.

I think this costume is awful!!



We've waited how many years now for a new Wonder Woman series and they give us THIS costume? Seriously? @#$%?! Even though it slightly resembles (and not in a good way) the new costume in the DC comics, I've seen more impressive Wonder Woman costumes at my local Halloween parade and local strip club. Wow, I'm shocked that they even came up with something this freaking awful.

Agreed. Wasn't aware that someone was even working on this; maybe now I see why.

The bar has really been raised with what's been done for Iron Man and Spider-Man, making something that falls so obviously short all the more pronounced. For some reason, I flashed on criticisms of Alicia Silverstone when she played Batgirl. One wonders (no pun intended) who's in the target audience demographic for this. Yup.

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

Agreed. This is a serious error and I think you'll find some nervous TV execs on Monday morning when they start reading the feedback that is starting to appear on various forums. The costume just looks cheap (like a tacky Halloween outfit) and as such you can't help feeling that will be the look of the whole show.

It's unfortunate really as the project has great potential (and could have made a great film) in the right hands but from what I've seen so far I doubt the right people are involved.

As far as a good adaptation of the costume they didn't have to look to far and should have based it on Alex Ross' interpretation as seen in Kingdom Come. The addition of the 'drop cloth' gave the outfit more movement and would have provided the actress a little more modesty... as it is she comes across like a novelty stripper act.

[Dell Deaton]

... As far as a good adaptation of the costume they didn't have to look to far and should have based it on Alex Ross' interpretation as seen in Kingdom Come. The addition of the 'drop cloth' gave the outfit more movement and would have provided the actress a little more modesty....

Thanks for the reference; I hadn't seen this interpretation before.

Not sure what I think of the "drop cloth," as you call it. But, overall, the contemporary look to the gold treatments - and definitely better credibility to the physique of the woman wearing it - are vast improvements over what we're seeing in the lead-image to this Thread.

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

Hi Dell,

I really should have provided an example but this is the best I could find of the costume in motion as it were as seen in Kingdom Come;



Not sure if 'drop cloth' is the correct term but it is like a mini cape (front and back) that helps provide more movement and is a subtle but clever addition to the classic look. The thing about Ross' work (as far as WW is concerned) is that he is able to achieve a lovely balance between strength, beauty & grace. This character is an Amazonian Princess after all and as such should be almost mythic in the interpretation.

As I mentioned in my previous post I would love to be in that meeting on Monday morning. As we are fond of saying over here in Blighty it could be a case of 'Squeaky Bum' time!

[j7wild]

Agreed. This is a serious error and I think you'll find some nervous TV execs on Monday morning when they start reading the feedback that is starting to appear on various forums.

do you think those conceited TV and Movie execs ever go online and read the feedback to their work or have they have someone do it for them?

I doubt they do.

If they did, we wouldn't have all these crappy remakes!!

Whenever one of these crappy remakes is announced and movie fans start complaining about it; the execs, if they do read the feebacks online, should be saying:

"You know what? Let's scratch that project! The fans don't like it! Let's save those millions of dollars (yes, even a crappy movie costs millions now to make) on something that the fans want!!"

Edited by j7wild, 19 March 2011 - 02:56 PM.

[Dell Deaton]

If this is the same costume, here's another link that I'd found (before making my earlier reply); scroll down a bit to see it:

Ross' Wonder Woman?

As far as film and TV executives reading the forums, I dunno. On the other hand, based on the work I do with major consumer product manufacturers, I can tell you that a good number of them have whole departments dedicated to following Facebook, Twitter, and various other social media. Major watch brands have folks who'll reply directly to "concerns" that are expressed, provide direction on resources (eg, requests for operating and instruction materials), and even sometimes make policy statements. The reputable way to do this is with full disclosure of affiliation, of course.

In those cases, it is very good for business.

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

There was a time when they probably didn't care what fans/forums were saying as they believed it wouldn't make any difference and they obviously felt they always knew best.

However, they are now aware they can not afford to get it wrong as has been shown in the last several weeks both (funnily enough) regarding costume designs to classic 'looks'. Firstly there were a number of set pictures from the latest Spider-man film posted online which caused a lot of 'concerned' internet chatter mostly regarding what appeared to be the hero wearing 'silver lined' trainers/sneakers. Now it's not clear if these will ever be seen in shot and are simply for the benefit of the actor/stuntman while running in the street or are actually part of the new costume. The fact that within a couple of days an 'official' publicity shot was released (feet conveniently obscured by shadow) suggests the studio is aware of what is being discussed by the fans and they want to avoid any negative comments possibly upsetting their marketing plans.

And in a recent interview director Zack Snyder has admitted they will probably have to publicly reveal the new Superman costume before shooting commences simply to avoid that very same scenario happening.

It's just a shame that common sense and taste isn't a prerequisite for every Hollywood executive that gets to make the important decisions, that way we could be spared the PVC horrors of the new Wonder Woman costume!

[zencat]

I'm fine with it. She's still recognizably Wonder Woman. It really isn't all that different from the classic costume/look (she just has pants instead of a skirt or shorts). I just wish the boots were red.

[SecretAgentFan]

So, PalickiIsNotWonderWoman.com can´t be far? Or will it be Palicki´sCostumeIsNotWonderWoman.com?

Really. One of the most disturbing side effects of the Internet is this constant bickering and fraternizing with people who only want to pour their hate on everything that is not to their fanboy-liking.

I think it looks fine. And I reserve any judgment until I have actually seen an episode.

[j7wild]

of all the images I found of Wonder Woman from the comics including Alex Ross' Kingdom Come, her legs between her waist and her knees are supposed to be bare

[SecretAgentFan]

of all the images I found of Wonder Woman from the comics including Alex Ross' Kingdom Come, her legs between her waist and her knees are supposed to be bare

Although your statement above speaks for itself and is actually highly amusing...

This new TV series actually is not a comic book. The good news: you can still enjoy the bare legs and knees while reading (or is it looking at?) the comics.

[OmarB]

I like that its a bit of the old and a bit of the new. I'm no WW reader though, only books with her I have are JL and when Superman or Flash guest in her book so her portrayal is not as important to me. I can see those pants becoming the panties or the Alex Ross loincloth quite easily. Its the rubber look I don't like.

My main gripe is that girl is not nearly as gorgeous as a princess/godess/carved from clay in the image of perfection. She's a very pretty girl thou, but no Bridgett Regan.

[marktmurphy]

I don't get the problem, to be honest. She looks like Wonder Woman to me.

I mean, there's not much you can do with that look and not make her look a bit silly. She's called Wonder Woman, for heavens sake!

[Turn]

I clicked on the thread out of pure curiosity. I like it fine and I probably won't watch an episode, but I can't believe so many people are so worked up over it. Is it that bad?

I wondered in 1989 why the new Batman costume had sculpted features and resembled armor, but it didn't give me an iota of doubt in wanting to see the film to judge its real merits. If people are already passing judgement based on the picture of a costume then we've really reached a weird point in fandom.

What's next a blond Bond?

[coco1997]

Black pants + red boots = substantially better.

[hcmv007]

Since I'm the resident perv on this site-I would nail her. On the costume it looks like the new version she is wearing in the comics but more Americanized. Give me the Lynda Carter costume on her. Still gonna watch, for obvious reasons. Giggidy!

[coco1997]

Since I'm the resident perv on this site-I would nail her. On the costume it looks like the new version she is wearing in the comics but more Americanized. Give me the Lynda Carter costume on her. Still gonna watch, for obvious reasons. Giggidy!

Agreed on all counts.

But don't let "elizabeth" from the "Bond in drag" thread see your comments.

[SecretAgentFan]

C´mon. An "I´d nail her"-comment? Seriously? How uncreative, low-minded and, yes, offensive. Also silly, since the female in question would have any right to laugh mercilessly right in your face.

And please, don´t use Elizabeth to make your ugly point. She has every right to feel offended by a chauvinistic remark.

[Mark_Hazard]

Since I'm the resident perv on this site-I would nail her. On the costume it looks like the new version she is wearing in the comics but more Americanized. Give me the Lynda Carter costume on her. Still gonna watch, for obvious reasons. Giggidy!

Let's just have Lynda Carter back:

[Dell Deaton]

... Give me the Lynda Carter costume on her. Still gonna watch, for obvious reasons. Giggidy!

Let's just have Lynda Carter back:

Ah, yes-- remember fondly having watched her, in this version of the costume, when those episodes originally aired. First season was unquestionably the best, and, without digressing too far here, I think not only the petty battles between Carter and Lyle Wagner, but also the whole undermining of the lead characters' relationship by having here fast-forward to the future and end up with his look-alike son was a clear example of killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

PS: Thanks for posting this image!

[j7wild]

well, at least I will have something to look forward to:

Liz on the set of Wonder Woman

http://www.imagebam....4e5ke4p4vmmoep/

[Simon]

I don't get the problem, to be honest. She looks like Wonder Woman to me.

I mean, there's not much you can do with that look and not make her look a bit silly. She's called Wonder Woman, for heavens sake!

Very true sir.

Kinda homes in on the saliant point ...

[Dell Deaton]

I don't get the problem, to be honest. She looks like Wonder Woman to me.

I mean, there's not much you can do with that look and not make her look a bit silly. She's called Wonder Woman, for heavens sake!

Very true sir.

Kinda homes in on the saliant point ...

To inject a bit of gender balance here, there's a similar debate I've read elsewhere on upcoming Captain America costume. Along the lines of the comic book versions not looking serious enough. To bridge that, I guess they're gonna do some sort of a sequence along the lines of PR stunt where Cap wears what fans were used to. Good luck with that. Seem to recall a series of TV efforts in maybe the 1970s where they did a starts-and-stripes as vest approach, before kicking it back to the more familiar look.

[marktmurphy]

I don't get the problem, to be honest. She looks like Wonder Woman to me.

I mean, there's not much you can do with that look and not make her look a bit silly. She's called Wonder Woman, for heavens sake!

Very true sir.

Kinda homes in on the saliant point ...

To inject a bit of gender balance here, there's a similar debate I've read elsewhere on upcoming Captain America costume. Along the lines of the comic book versions not looking serious enough. To bridge that, I guess they're gonna do some sort of a sequence along the lines of PR stunt where Cap wears what fans were used to. Good luck with that. Seem to recall a series of TV efforts in maybe the 1970s where they did a starts-and-stripes as vest approach, before kicking it back to the more familiar look.

I don't really get your point, to be honest..? I'm not you could say this version of the WW cossie looks more serious than the comic book one, could you?

[doublenoughtspy]

There are plenty of details they got wrong, but at least it is recognizable as Wonder Woman.

Regarding Captain America - I'm much less enthused. I realize the movie isn't out yet - but there are too many straps/harness/stuff in the pictures I've seen. Yes, he is a solider, but the iconography of the character is the flag - and diluting it by "enhancing" it with miltaria isn't the right approach, imho.

Even the Reb Brown 70s movies, and the low budget Matt Salinger version, are more recognizable.

When I think about the most successful superhero adaptations - Chris Reeve's Superman, Christian Bale's Batman, and Tobey McGuire's Spiderman - there were costume tweaks - but they were pretty faithful and recognizable.

I think about the 3 Punisher adaptations and how much they changed the costume - and how each time the producers/director have said "the guy kills people, he isn't going to be running around in tights." Then why did you license a comic book character then?

[TheREAL008]

This version might not last as long as The Cape. Aside from the costume, there's nothing about the series that even related to Wonder Woman comic wise et. cetra.

Fail on all counts.

[marktmurphy]

There are plenty of details they got wrong, but at least it is recognizable as Wonder Woman.

Regarding Captain America - I'm much less enthused. I realize the movie isn't out yet - but there are too many straps/harness/stuff in the pictures I've seen. Yes, he is a solider, but the iconography of the character is the flag - and diluting it by "enhancing" it with miltaria isn't the right approach, imho.

Even the Reb Brown 70s movies, and the low budget Matt Salinger version, are more recognizable.

When I think about the most successful superhero adaptations - Chris Reeve's Superman, Christian Bale's Batman, and Tobey McGuire's Spiderman - there were costume tweaks - but they were pretty faithful and recognizable.

I think about the 3 Punisher adaptations and how much they changed the costume - and how each time the producers/director have said "the guy kills people, he isn't going to be running around in tights." Then why did you license a comic book character then?

The Cap America outfit is just a tweak; he's dressed as Captain America. They've managed to work the miracle of making Cap's outfit (which is ridiculous) actually look a bit cool. He looks great; I've got high hopes for that film.

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

As someone who grew up favouring DC over Marvel I had very little interest in the Captain America film but from the few clips I've seen so far I'm really liking what I see and coming from the director of the hugely underrated 'Rocketeer' this will hopefully be least it's equal.

On a side note, CA features a supporting role from British Actress Natalie Dormer who's biggest role to date has been in The Tudors playing Anne Boleyn. Thinking about it she would make a great Miss Moneypenny!

[coco1997]

It seems that first costume was a prototype or the producers really took the web community's criticisms to heart. I have to admit the added red to the boots really ties the whole thing together much better.

First Wonder Woman set photos