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[Professor Pi]

I liked how as a kid he doesn't understand what's happening to him but his mother helps him through it and his father imparts lessons to him.  Also, the idea that he sees and hears absolutely everything in sensory overload and has to focus on making the world small.  Lots of parallels to adolescence, nurture vs. nature, fitting in, and the data overload in a modern technological world.  Contrast this with the genetic engineering of Krypton's society.

[thecasinoroyale]

That was a wonderful scene.

 

It's that sort of scene I meant Ace, sorry if you didn't understand - seeing him weaker and fragile coming to terms with his powers, even as an adult. It made him more human, or simply a deeper character not just automatically invincible. We know he is, but Cavill's Superman is obviously having to try to connect with more audiences after the lack of Superman media recently and this reboot for the character worked wonders.

 

Certainly need to see this again...

[The Shark]

 

There was good time spent seeing him fear himself because of the powers he has that he couldn't understand

 

 

 

Grammar Nazi!

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

 

There was good time spent seeing him fear himself because of the powers he has that he couldn't understand

 

 

 

Grammar Nazi!

 

 

No Grammar Nazi from me

 

That was a wonderful scene.

 

It's that sort of scene I meant Ace, sorry if you didn't understand - seeing him weaker and fragile coming to terms with his powers, even as an adult. It made him more human, or simply a deeper character not just automatically invincible. We know he is, but Cavill's Superman is obviously having to try to connect with more audiences after the lack of Superman media recently and this reboot for the character worked wonders.

 

Certainly need to see this again...

 

No I did understand, perfectly, but being that I saw the film, I found it extremely poor to say that it's a "deeper character"

[thecasinoroyale]

Well he was certainly a deeper character than Reeve's portrayal. Granted Reeve embodied the all-American superhero with great triumph, Cavill's Superman is the more character based portrayal, so out of all Supermen I've seen, this is the one I connected to more as a character going through what he has to, to become the icon he will be to the world.

[Iceskater101]

I just saw Man of Steel and oh my god Henry Cavill is so attractive, he is seriously my celebrity crush at the moment.

[x007AceOfSpades]

He still isn't Superman in my book.

[Sir Godfrey]

I saw the movie and I have to say that it is a deception. Too long, too boring. Cavill is good but I don't want him to wear the 007 suit.
 

[x007AceOfSpades]

I saw the movie and I have to say that it is a deception. Too long, too boring. Cavill is good but I don't want him to wear the 007 suit.
 

 

Too rushed just to get to the damn repetitive action scenes. Bloated, all style and no substance. Cavill, Like I stated in my review never clicked as Superman, and was probably merely chosen for his looks. His acting is just sad, and if you've seen Immortals, you'll know what I mean. Immortals was a terrible film with terrible acting all around. He may have huge pecs and an 8 pack, but it doesn't mean he can act.

 

Oh and trust me Sir Godfrey, he'll never put on the tuxedo and holster the PPK

[tdalton]

 Cavill is good but I don't want him to wear the 007 suit.
 

 

I doubt that he'll be a candidate for Bond after 2018 or whenever Craig hangs up the tux.  Between the Man of Steel franchise, a potential series of Justice League film that could follow, as well as his own potential spy franchise in The Man From U.N.C.L.E., I would think that EON would be looking elsewhere when it's time to cast Bond #7.

[S K Y F A L L]

MAN OF STEEL 2013 (SPOILERS)

 

I suppose I'm not really a Superman fan cause even though I thought Man Of Steel was entertaining I wasn't that into it. I mean I should have known because I was never into the original films, Smallville or the comics. I  thought the Lois and Clark (tv series) with Teri Hatcher was alright but I was never really into it. What I always liked about Superman was its John Williams theme song. 

 

I still find these mega blockbusters are worth seeing just for the amazing visual effects although that seems to be the norm these days.

 

When it comes to others planets in the universe I start to lose interest because I start to ask way to many questions and almost look for plot holes rather then just take it for what it is. I don't know what I was expecting. I felt it moved a little fast at times in the first half and a little slow at times during the 2nd half. 

 

I was quite moved by most of the story involving Kevin Costner at least and I'm pretty sure the dog would have been fine where it was. 

 

As for the so called controversial ending I think I might have preferred Nolan's version although it may not have been as satisfying. I just didn't feel like what he did was his only choice. What were those people doing there anyway? Run for your life! 

 

 

Anyway this scene from THE BIG BANG THEORY comes to mind. Cracks me up. 

 

 

[x007AceOfSpades]

MAN OF STEEL 2013 (SPOILERS)

 

I suppose I'm not really a Superman fan cause even though I thought Man Of Steel was entertaining I wasn't that into it. I mean I should have known because I was never into the original films, Smallville or the comics. I  thought the Lois and Clark (tv series) with Teri Hatcher was alright but I was never really into it. What I always liked about Superman was its John Williams theme song. 

 

I still find these mega blockbusters are worth seeing just for the amazing visual effects although that seems to be the norm these days.

 

When it comes to others planets in the universe I start to lose interest because I start to ask way to many questions and almost look for plot holes rather then just take it for what it is. I don't know what I was expecting. I felt it moved a little fast at times in the first half and a little slow at times during the 2nd half. 

 

I was quite moved by most of the story involving Kevin Costner at least and I'm pretty sure the dog would have been fine where it was. 

 

As for the so called controversial ending I think I might have preferred Nolan's version although it may not have been as satisfying. I just didn't feel like what he did was his only choice. What were those people doing there anyway? Run for your life! 

 

 

Anyway this scene from THE BIG BANG THEORY comes to mind. Cracks me up. 

 

 

 

I wouldn't say there were plot holes, but I do agree that it was rushed. As for the ending, it's justified, people can stop complaining about Superman killing someone. It makes sense and it wasn't "for fun".

[S K Y F A L L]

 

MAN OF STEEL 2013 (SPOILERS)

 

I suppose I'm not really a Superman fan cause even though I thought Man Of Steel was entertaining I wasn't that into it. I mean I should have known because I was never into the original films, Smallville or the comics. I  thought the Lois and Clark (tv series) with Teri Hatcher was alright but I was never really into it. What I always liked about Superman was its John Williams theme song. 

 

I still find these mega blockbusters are worth seeing just for the amazing visual effects although that seems to be the norm these days.

 

When it comes to others planets in the universe I start to lose interest because I start to ask way to many questions and almost look for plot holes rather then just take it for what it is. I don't know what I was expecting. I felt it moved a little fast at times in the first half and a little slow at times during the 2nd half. 

 

I was quite moved by most of the story involving Kevin Costner at least and I'm pretty sure the dog would have been fine where it was. 

 

As for the so called controversial ending I think I might have preferred Nolan's version although it may not have been as satisfying. I just didn't feel like what he did was his only choice. What were those people doing there anyway? Run for your life! 

 

Anyway this scene from THE BIG BANG THEORY comes to mind. Cracks me up. 

 

I wouldn't say there were plot holes, but I do agree that it was rushed. As for the ending, it's justified, people can stop complaining about Superman killing someone. It makes sense and it wasn't "for fun".

 

I just get confused because of my lack of understanding. For example and I should have thought of this before because I think it happens in the older films but can Superman breath in outer space? Did I miss a one liner explanation about that? Dump stuff like that or why didn't Zod at least try and kill Superman like he did his father... I have to see this film again I suppose but Superman was just never really my superhero, XMen and Batman are more my thing. Great film or not, you like what you like I guess. 

[x007AceOfSpades]

 

 

MAN OF STEEL 2013 (SPOILERS)

 

I suppose I'm not really a Superman fan cause even though I thought Man Of Steel was entertaining I wasn't that into it. I mean I should have known because I was never into the original films, Smallville or the comics. I  thought the Lois and Clark (tv series) with Teri Hatcher was alright but I was never really into it. What I always liked about Superman was its John Williams theme song. 

 

I still find these mega blockbusters are worth seeing just for the amazing visual effects although that seems to be the norm these days.

 

When it comes to others planets in the universe I start to lose interest because I start to ask way to many questions and almost look for plot holes rather then just take it for what it is. I don't know what I was expecting. I felt it moved a little fast at times in the first half and a little slow at times during the 2nd half. 

 

I was quite moved by most of the story involving Kevin Costner at least and I'm pretty sure the dog would have been fine where it was. 

 

As for the so called controversial ending I think I might have preferred Nolan's version although it may not have been as satisfying. I just didn't feel like what he did was his only choice. What were those people doing there anyway? Run for your life! 

 

Anyway this scene from THE BIG BANG THEORY comes to mind. Cracks me up. 

 

I wouldn't say there were plot holes, but I do agree that it was rushed. As for the ending, it's justified, people can stop complaining about Superman killing someone. It makes sense and it wasn't "for fun".

 

I just get confused because of my lack of understanding. For example and I should have thought of this before because I think it happens in the older films but can Superman breath in outer space? Did I miss a one liner explanation about that? Dump stuff like that or why didn't Zod at least try and kill Superman like he did his father... I have to see this film again I suppose but Superman was just never really my superhero, XMen and Batman are more my thing. Great film or not, you like what you like I guess. 

 

 

Yeah, Superman can breath, he's basically an all-in-one package, despite his major weakness to Kryptonite. There's other summer films coming out, and I personally would recommend you see them before going to see this again. I like Superman, but this was just an embarrassing disappointment.

[Jim]

It was protracted and noisy and ultimately a smidge dull. Lacked charm.

[thecasinoroyale]

Sorry you didn't enjoy it Jim! :(  I just hope the sequel repairs the faults this one threw up and we get more of a globally acceptable Superman!

[x007AceOfSpades]

Let me know when and IF Warner Bros. gets rid of Goyer and Nolan.

[Dustin]

I think it's becoming progressively apparent with time that not every superhero is a good medium for the dour-as-nails serious approach. What works with Batman - though not for everyone, just ask fans of the TV show - isn't a good template for a basically omnipotent, ever-optimistic, positive, proactive character. Superman is the anthropomorphic manifestation of the The Star-Spangled Banner, complete with The American Dream ™ and a bright silver lining on the horizon. Yes, that is naive and perky and maybe also a bit impudent at times. But it should also feature in some way in a cinematic depiction of the character that isn't entirely set on just selling the CGI. For that you could probably just have a pill and cut out the film, the characters, the story altogether.

[thecasinoroyale]

I thought Snyder did a fine job directing, but Nolan's touch wasn't really needed and I will put any blame for the tone to him.

 

I felt Snyder actually was very, very faithful to lots of comic book elements which worked for Superman, and the narrative flow was good. But darkness doesn't suit Superman very much, so I hope he's crested that now. I'm coming to think to someone saying that Nolan's 'Dark Knight' touch was used to try make this something alongside those films which it wasn't fair to do so early in the re-boot of Superman. Give him a film or two more to do that before trying to put it up there with the DK trilogy.

[EyesOnly]

For me this movie hit all the right chords.  Cavill looks, acts and sounds exactly how i'd picture Superman to be...I forgot all about Christopher Reeve when I saw this movie and have moved on from the nostalgia of it all.

 

I wouldn't characterize this movie as "dark" but grounded in reality if you will.  And to be honest, I could never EVER picture Christopher Reeve taking on this kind of Villain.  Times change...it worked for Bond, and it worked for Superman.

[hcmv007]

My review:

 

 

Its (CENSORED)ing Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eric Stromberg]

Love your concise review, hcmv!  I can also say that this movie put a big smile on my face and I found it very entertaining.  Any movie that can use Chris Cornell's "Seasons" in the soundtrack is okay by me!

 

I thought the first 30 minutes of this film were especially good.  It's not perfect by any means.  Too long and too talky; the script could have been tighter and there were several scenes where I was told things I would have rather been shown.  Once more we have to sit through the origin story, but doing it using flashbacks while showing some really interesting action (oil platform) made for engaging storytelling.  Overall this was an excellent movie and left me excited to see more like it in the future.

 

A few aspects stand out to me.  First, great to see all the back story on Krypton.  I found that well done and interesting to watch.  Dig the bloodline manipulation wrinkle and what that did to their society over the centuries.  The Krypton designs were amazing.  Everything looked totally badass, from the space ships to the battle armor to the various tech user interfaces; very metallic/organic and kind of like an amalgam of an Alien meets Dune design aesthetic.

 

How about one of the best villains put on screen in quite some time?  General Zod is supremely motivated to carry out is duty to Krypton and while ruthless and heavy handed, I could identify with his outlook on the situation.  He is doing what he was genetically bred to do and tries to keep his species a going concern; I just wish he would have had one or two dryly humorous lines to really flesh out this character.

 

Personally I've never seen action scenes created with so much ferocity and speed.  Watching these "gods" tear down an entire skyline as they beat the hell out of each other was breathtaking at times.

 

It seems some followers are left clutching their Christopher Reeve DVD collections after seeing this new vision, but I really dug the newest version of Supes and am looking forward to where these new engineers are taking the mythology.  Stay thirsty, my fellow CBners, and here's to more adventures with The Alien!

[Professor Pi]

I didn't really catch that the ending was controversial while watching it, I read about it online later.  But I did sense that the last of Kal-El's people are now gone--that's why he screams upon realizing what he's done, even if they are villainous.  But are they?  I think Zod views humans pretty much the same way humans view ants.  Our skyscrapers are anthills for Kryptonians to kick over. 

 

Had Zod been threatening Lois Lane with his laser heat vision, that would have made Superman's defeating him more compelling, as it would have contrasted the earlier scene where Superman uses his laser vision to heal Lois' injury.  I think Goyer and Nolan may have been unfaithful to the character in making Man of Steel a match for today's cinema zeitgeist. 

 

As for a sequel, will they address the consequences of $2 trillion dollars in damage to Metropolis:

http://www.washingto...-129000-people/

Will Superman help rebuild the city or let the construction workers from the Burger King commercial do that!?  Wouldn't Christopher Reeve just reverse time by spinning the planet backward (now there's a physics argument for The Big Bang Theory!) 

 

Both Dark Knight and Marvel have done a pretty good job in addressing the consequences in their sequels.  How MOS2 is to realistically do this will be quite a challenge.

Edited by Professor Pi, 22 June 2013 - 08:01 PM.

[thecasinoroyale]

Great reviews guys, and good points. I feel the damage done by Superman and Zod will be there in the sequel, it won't be brushed over and will be a source of why Superman must build on his promise to help humanity after such a loud and destructive entrance. He needs to earn trust and I am sure he can do that.

 

As for Cavill, he embodied Superman better than I felt. I didn't compare him to Reeve; that's ridiculous to do and not fair for their era and portrayals. Cavill felt more like the comic book character I feel in terms of his look and manner, which was brilliant as he wasn't doing a Routh and being almost identical to Reeve. Each Superman, like the comic book incarnations, should be the same character, but different for their time.

[hcmv007]

I didn't really catch that the ending was controversial while watching it, I read about it online later.  But I did sense that the last of Kal-El's people are now gone--that's why he screams upon realizing what he's done, even if they are villainous.  But are they?  I think Zod views humans pretty much the same way humans view ants.  Our skyscrapers are anthills for Kryptonians to kick over. 

 

Had Zod been threatening Lois Lane with his laser heat vision, that would have made Superman's defeating him more compelling, as it would have contrasted the earlier scene where Superman uses his laser vision to heal Lois' injury.  I think Goyer and Nolan may have been unfaithful to the character in making Man of Steel a match for today's cinema zeitgeist. 

 

As for a sequel, will they address the consequences of $2 trillion dollars in damage to Metropolis:

http://www.washingto...-129000-people/

Will Superman help rebuild the city or let the construction workers from the Burger King commercial do that!?  Wouldn't Christopher Reeve just reverse time by spinning the planet backward (now there's a physics argument for The Big Bang Theory!) 

 

Both Dark Knight and Marvel have done a pretty good job in addressing the consequences in their sequels.  How MOS2 is to realistically do this will be quite a challenge.

 

 

I think Lex Luthor is the villain as instead of looking to the stars we get to look to Earth, and I expect Lex to be like the Joker as far as upping the game, intensity, and challenging Superman the way Batman was in the Dark Knight.

[Tarl_Cabot]

I saw it and I liked it alot. I loved Faora. She needs to be in a Bond film ASAP! Liked the action and Krypton was amazing. Henry Cavill is not as imposing as the 6'4 Brandon Routh but he does a great job. My only quibble is the death of John Clark-totally unneccessary and added extra time to the film that should have been 15 minutes shorter. Otherwise, this was a great comic book movie and totally sets up sequels and JLA.

[thecasinoroyale]

It was nice to see a female villain win Faora just as strong and clever as Zod, but female. Nothing sexually suggestive or weaker as most female villains are made out next to male co-stars.

 

I think Lex Luthor will be a decent villain for a sequel if they get it right - he will spark interest being a staple of Superman lore and fans will love to see his incarnation, and as you say about the Joker wanting to test and ruin Batman, Lex will do the same to Superman in a world that is starting to appreciate him, but one man wants to bring him to his knees for his own gain.

[Iceskater101]

I liked her a lot as well, I think that if they did make a sequel to Man of Steel they should be more concise on what they want to focus on about Superman and they should make it shorter, some of the sequences in Man of Steel weren't necessary.

[x007AceOfSpades]

The whole last hour wasn't necessary.

[tdalton]

Found this video online and thought that those of you who had been previously discussing Zimmer's score for the film might find it to be of interest:

 

Hans Zimmer takes you behind the scenes of the 'Man of Steel' score

 

 

The video is at the bottom of a short article.