well i was getting ready to create a new topic for QOS, i stumbled onto this one. I agree with all the pros and cons everyone has posted on CR vs. QOS, many of the things I think everyone can agree on is that Daniel Craig is could be considered the best actor to portray James Bond. Why you ask...
1. The boy can act.
2. We finally get to see the character of James Bond show emotion. (something no other actor has ever done; not even Connery, with respect to him.)
3. He performs most of his own stunts. (just watch the making of QOS on how he trained to jump onto the bus.)
4. He can still pull some good one liners, but nothing too off the wall.
Now, onto comparing QOS and CR.
My thoughts on CR...
1. CR is the iconic James Bond movie
2. It's classy
3. It shows the audience why Bond is the way he is (a woman...cough cough)
4. He says the iconic phrase "the name is bond, james bond" (but waits til the end of the movie)
5. the Aston Martins (1964 and 2006)
6. The acting
7. An excellent script
8 The bond girls (mainly Vesper)
9. You Know My Name (very catchy)
10. Vespers theme
11. The fact that we see bond show emotion because he was betrayed and hurt by the woman he loved
12. The bond girl dies (what, that didn't happen in the other movies. um yeah it did.)
13. black and white intro (never done before)
14. no gunbarrel (well kinda, but not really)
15. 2 1/2 hour (a little long, but it's a big story to tell)
16. watching Bond put on the tux for the first time and he is checking himself out (funny, but classy)
17. drinking a vesper (just like in the book)
18. "vodka martini...shakin or stirred sir...do i look like i give a damn" (need i say more)
19. character development
20. bond showing that he can be vulnerable
21. lots of drama
22. not as many action scenes, but big ones
23. Judi Dench as M but even better than the Brosnan days.
24.
I'm sure there's much more, but I'm drawing blanks right now.
Now, onto QOS.
1. The first ever Bond sequel
2. it picks up where CR left off
3. Bond is pissed and it shows
4. Bond still has feelings for Vesper (obviously, but he is carrying around her necklace and picture)
5. The opening car chase (no cgi, just a really bad
car chase where bond is only forced to fire maybe 4 shots)
6. The score (best score arnold has ever done)
7. More Judi Dench
8. Camille - not since For Your Eyes Only have we seen a Bond girl so eager to get revenge on someone) And she's way hot and can act.
9. Greene - there's a reason Marc Foster said that he wanted him to be "naked" and not have anything like an eye patch or a bleeding eye. Look at his eyes, they are just down right freaky. And once again, he can act. He's not out to destroy the world with a missle, he just wants to terrorize it and make money by having the water supply.
10. Bond in a place where we have never seen him before...his heart is broken, so how is he going to react, "by being blinded by inconsiderable rage that he doesn't care who he hurts." (say what you want, but this is how he should have reacted in Diamonds Are Forever after Tracey died)
11. The Aston Martin is back
12. car chases, boat chases, plane chases, etc...
13. a different direction than everyone would have expected...but an interesting and really good take on bond.
14. 1hr 49 min...a little short, but it gets right to the point.
15. Mathis is back and has his famous quote "Vesper...she gave everything for you. Forgive her. Forgive yourself."
16. When mathis dies, you actually feel sadness and remorse just like bond.
17. The opera scene (WOW...it just keeps getting better and better.
18. The ending...Bond throws the necklace to the ground and has some closure.
19. The gunbarrel at the end???? I understand where Foster was going with this because at the end, Bond is now officialy BOND.
20. We are introduced to a secret oraganization, QUANTUM. Good throwback to the old days.
21. Oil Fields (Fields was hot, her part felt a little small, but I think she is a really great up and coming actress.)
22. Foster didn't make a mold of what CR was. Meaning he could have followed everything Campbell did, but instead he put his twist on it and the result is things we never seen in a bond movie and should feel privledged we were graced by his presence behind the camera. anyone can make a spy movie (have ya seen xxx, i mean really?), but foster took a forumla, changed it up but still managed to make it feel like bond.
23. a pretty good theme (another way to die...a little like you know my name, but not the best, not the worst.)
24. the hotel scene (bond having his bond moments escaping)
25. felix leighter (i didn't mention this in CR, but he is very good. and i hope he will be back again)
26. Tanner (something about the character of Tanner i just like.)
alright let's get some more things out of the way now...Bond vs. Bourne. Bond is not Bourne and will never be like him. Bourne is not Bond and will never be (maily cause they aren't making anymore with the character of jason bourne). While some say QOS is looks like bond, well because the editor did a bourne movie. Duh. it's like taking michael mann's editor and putting him into bond movie..."wow that looks too much like miami vice or collateral" boo freakin hoo. yes i didn't like the way he cut some stuff out, but that's the way it is. If you don't like it, go watch something else.
Bond vs. The Terminator...bond is a spy/assasin and last time i check he was trained to kill. Arnold Schawaranager/the terminator killed everyone in his movies because that's what arnold did. so...Mitchell fired tried to kill bond, and bond had no choice but to shoot him. The fact that Slate tries to kill bond in the hotel and bond reacts just as any other person would in self defense...kill the ba$t!@d. Dropping Guy Haines bodyguard of the building (a little TSWLM throwback), but i guess when rage kicks in you have no idea what the hell you are doing. He did NOT kill Greene. He was growing as the movie went. but the oil touch was very clever. He did NOT kill Vesper's ex. Though I would have at least pistol whipped or knee capped him. The point is, but did what he had to do. and he killed probably just as money people in CR as he did in QOS, but I guess to some it's just different. Oh well.
So do you agree with everything I said, some of what I said, or just plain disagree? I would love to hear more input. These are just my thoughts, but I guess to sum everything up...CR is classic bond and QOS is new age bond. two very different styles. I like them both for what they are. CR i would give a 10 and QOS a 9.5.
**the only things i wish they would have changed in CR and QOS is have Moneypenny in her early years. would have been a nice touch.