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[SecretAgentFan]

After all those months suddenly the situation has cleared up. The Swiss has finally decided not to extradite him. So, Polanski can return to France or wherever he wants (except the US, of course).

Strange. Why did they hold him for so long then?




http://www.deadline....us-extradition/

[Jim]

Strange. Why did they hold him for so long then?

Perhaps they thought he was made out of stolen gold and art.

[SecretAgentFan]

If you can´t trust a Swiss (banker)...

[Tarl_Cabot]

now that's nuetrality!

[Aris007]

Riiiiiight!


And that's good or not?

[zencat]

Lock up your daughters and unleash your jacuzzi salesmen!

[dinovelvet]

Well, I'll be buggered!

[marktmurphy]

Well, I'll be buggered!

Depends how old you are, I think.

[DR76]

So . . . Roman Polanski continues to avoid paying the consequences of his actions. Not really surprised.

[Safari Suit]

Yeah, this thread's gonna go well

[Mr. Blofeld]

Surprised nobody just tried to revive the Ghost Writer thread for this; whatever happened to that old thing, anyway?

[Aris007]

Surprised nobody just tried to revive the Ghost Writer thread for this; whatever happened to that old thing, anyway?

I'm on my way!

[SecretAgentFan]

I opened this thread to get rid of the other one.

Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

[Loomis]

http://www.independe...or-2025067.html

[doublenoughtspy]

"if he's our man I'd like to get him away from Switzerland."

I can always tie it in to OHMSS somehow...

[Goodnight]

Apparently Whoopi Goldberg said "It wasn't rape rape"



WTF.....she's a very cunny funt isn't she?

[The Shark]

http://www.independe...or-2025067.html

Is that still taking into consideration that the victim has forgiven Polanski and was pleading against any extradition?

It does seem that certain people are getting overwhelmed hysteria and sensationalism (less so now, but last year it was pretty overbearing), and Polanski has become something of a whipping boy for 30+ year old crime that has since been come to terms with by the girl and Polanski himself, and NOW the everybody wants his locked up.

I find Johann Hari to be quite a tedious and histrionic termagant. Who seems to get more easily swept up in the emotions of these things more than others. Impassioned, and caring, but often rather misguided and sanctimonious at times.

[Sark2.0]

Apparently Whoopi Goldberg said "It wasn't rape rape"



WTF.....she's a very cunny funt isn't she?

She's gone from that to taking to the air today to defend Mel Gibson, So.... I guess she likes a challenge? Defending the indefensible is a pretty tall order.

Is that still taking into consideration that the victim has forgiven Polanski and was pleading against any extradition?

Completely irrelevant. 27% of hostages show evidence of Stockholm syndrome, should we just drop hostage-taking charges in those cases where the victims feel sympathy for the perpetrators?

It does seem that certain people are getting overwhelmed hysteria and sensationalism

I suppose, if you consider it 'hysterical' for people to insist that the wealthy and powerful be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

I find Johann Hari to be quite a tedious and histrionic termagant. Who seems to get more easily swept up in the emotions of these things more than others. Impassioned, and caring, but often rather misguided and sanctimonious at times.

That's a nice opinion, but it doesn't in any way refute anything Hari said.

[The Shark]

Is that still taking into consideration that the victim has forgiven Polanski and was pleading against any extradition?

Completely irrelevant. 27% of hostages show evidence of Stockholm syndrome, should we just drop hostage-taking charges in those cases where the victims feel sympathy for the perpetrators?

Who says she's a hostage victim? What if she's part of the majority of cases (83% as you quoted) that doesn't develop that particular impairment of judgement?

No. My assertion wasn't 'competently irrelevant' by any regard. It some credence at least.

It does seem that certain people are getting overwhelmed hysteria and sensationalism

I suppose, if you consider it 'hysterical' for people to insist that the wealthy and powerful be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

There's far more to this case than merely his wealth and power. That's a reductionist, somewhat Marxist even take on the situation I don't comply with.

I find Johann Hari to be quite a tedious and histrionic termagant. Who seems to get more easily swept up in the emotions of these things more than others. Impassioned, and caring, but often rather misguided and sanctimonious at times.

That's a nice opinion, but it doesn't in any way refute anything Hari said.

It targets the mindset that the article sprung from. Nothing is refuted here.

[0024]

I've seen a few of his films and he's a gifted filmmaker. To me, this all just reinforces that Hollywood perceives rules don't apply to them like they do to other folks, and 'the system' doesn't come down hard enough on them and allows them to get away with it. He was wrong back then, and he's wrong now. Tragic.

[Loomis]

http://www.independe...or-2025067.html

Is that still taking into consideration that the victim has forgiven Polanski and was pleading against any extradition?

I don't see how her forgiveness or lack thereof is relevant. The law doesn't (and shouldn't) work like that. It works on the basis of "Was a crime committed?", and not on the basis of "So how does the alleged victim now seem to feel about things all these years on?". For if Polanski were to be prosecuted, it wouldn't just be on Samantha Geimer's behalf. It would be on society's behalf.

Is that still taking into consideration that the victim has forgiven Polanski and was pleading against any extradition?

Completely irrelevant. 27% of hostages show evidence of Stockholm syndrome, should we just drop hostage-taking charges in those cases where the victims feel sympathy for the perpetrators?

Who says she's a hostage victim? What if she's part of the majority of cases (83% as you quoted) that doesn't develop that particular impairment of judgement?

No. My assertion wasn't 'competently irrelevant' by any regard. It some credence at least.

It does seem that certain people are getting overwhelmed hysteria and sensationalism

I suppose, if you consider it 'hysterical' for people to insist that the wealthy and powerful be held to the same standards as the rest of us.

There's far more to this case than merely his wealth and power. That's a reductionist, somewhat Marxist even take on the situation I don't comply with.

But who is calling for Polanski to be prosecuted because of his wealth and power? No one, as far as I can tell. There would be just as much revulsion over a thirteen-year-old being raped by a homeless, destitute man. Still, I don't see how it's "Marxist" to believe that everyone should be equal under the law.

[glidrose]

I find Johann Hari to be quite a tedious and histrionic termagant. Who seems to get more easily swept up in the emotions of these things more than others. Impassioned, and caring, but often rather misguided and sanctimonious at times.

I know I shouldn't reactive this thread, but I can't help posting this link about Hari.

[Dustin]

I find Johann Hari to be quite a tedious and histrionic termagant. Who seems to get more easily swept up in the emotions of these things more than others. Impassioned, and caring, but often rather misguided and sanctimonious at times.

I know I shouldn't reactive this thread, but I can't help posting this link about Hari.

From the link:

So here is my take on Mr Hari. On reporting trips on the other side of the world, far from the watchful gaze of his editors, he plagiarised and embellished quotes (though he still denies accusations of inventing some of his most dramatic facts). Now he is admitting to wrong-doing and apologising, but only after getting caught, years later.
I have met too many journalists like that, and their flaw was not one of training. At the risk of being pompous, it was one of character. The Independent's editor, Chris Blackhurst, announces today that there is "no doubting [Mr Hari's] talent as a columnist and we are hoping to see him back in the not too distant future."
What does that say about British journalism?

Not at all. Thanks for reminding me.