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#1 zencat

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 03:51 PM

...at the end of Jeffrey Deaver's Project X novel we will get the name of the next book and author?

James Bond Will Return in

KILL MY DYING DEATH

by

Charlie Higson


Wouldn't that be awesome? B)

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:02 PM

Charlie Higson writing an EON Brosnan title????

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:06 PM

Ha! Well, maybe that isn't awesome, but the idea that we get the next author at the end of each book... It's the literary version of what the films used to do and really creates a sense of series. I just think this would be a blast, and if they've lined up a few authors in advance, not impossible (although they might not have the titles in time).

And, yes, Charlie Higson MUST at some point pen a Project X novel. Be a crime against the universe if he didn't get a shot at an adult Bond novel.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:09 PM

That would, indeed, be awesome.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:11 PM

That would be awesome. I would settle for "James Bond will return". It's possible it could happen; it depends how much IFP has planned ahead.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:12 PM

Now, could you resist flipping to that last page as soon as you got the book in hand? Or would you wait until you reach it naturally? (Pretty sure it would be impossible for me not to peek.)

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:14 PM

I would totally flip to the back to see what the next book is called straight away.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:15 PM

Now, could you resist flipping to that last page as soon as you got the book in hand? Or would you wait until you reach it naturally? (Pretty sure it would be impossible for me not to peek.)


I always look at the back matter anyway (though not the end of the story) whenever I get a new book, just to see what's there. Usually read whatever author's note or bio it has. So, no I wouldn't be able to resist looking there.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:15 PM

Now, could you resist flipping to that last page as soon as you got the book in hand? Or would you wait until you reach it naturally? (Pretty sure it would be impossible for me not to peek.)

I'd peak too but I'm quite certain we'll know when the first person to receive the book posts the answer on CBn.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:16 PM

Now, could you resist flipping to that last page as soon as you got the book in hand? Or would you wait until you reach it naturally? (Pretty sure it would be impossible for me not to peek.)

I'd peak too but I'm quite certain we'll know when the first person to receive the book posts the answer on CBn.


That's true. Even if I could resist looking in the book itself, I wouldn't be able to stay away from a spoiler thread.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:18 PM

Hey, I bet the paperback Project X will include an excerpt from the next book. Maybe that's where we'll get the title? (I recall learning For Special Services from the US paperback License Renewed.) When you have a rolling series, lots of opportunity.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:25 PM

Hey, I bet the paperback Project X will include an excerpt from the next book. Maybe that's where we'll get the title? (I recall learning For Special Services from the US paperback License Renewed.) When you have a rolling series, lots of opportunity.


Oh, yes, that's probably true. Guess that by the time the paperback gets published, they'll know if Project X has been enough of a success to be continued into a second book. I'd imagine that they've made the touchstones for a second book already in anticipation - more of a 'Would you be interested ...' than anything involving contracts.

#13 zencat

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:31 PM

My guess is they're looking or already locked up the Book 2 writer. I don't think they are going to wait and see how JDs book does. Books take a long time, and if they want to do a book a year (which is presumably the plan), I'd think they'd have to be working on Book 2 before the release of JDs book.

Wow, we might see two Project X novels before Bond 23?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:34 PM

Well, I'd expect it might be locked shortly before X1 is released but I'd be very surprised if they've done anything more than fishing around for interest at the moment.

Do we know how long ago Deaver was locked into place yet?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:35 PM

Well, I'd expect it might be locked shortly before X1 is released but I'd be very surprised if they've done anything more than fishing around for interest at the moment.

Do we know how long ago Deaver was locked into place yet?


I thought I had heard or read somewhere that he had been working on the outline for 7 months.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:36 PM

It's a good question. It's been long enough for him to work up a 190 page outline and accumulate thousands of page of research. Also all the publishing deals have been made, the website designed, etc.... Six months?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:37 PM

If that's the case then maybe we should, as Zen suggested, expect the X2 author to be locked down in the next few months then. That said, we're still not sure if this is going to be an annual series or a bi-annual one.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:39 PM

Well, I'd expect it might be locked shortly before X1 is released but I'd be very surprised if they've done anything more than fishing around for interest at the moment.

Do we know how long ago Deaver was locked into place yet?


I thought I had heard or read somewhere that he had been working on the outline for 7 months.

There you go. Heck, they probably started the whole Project X thing not too long after the release of DMC. I would be very surprised if author 2 isn't already in place.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:41 PM

I wonder if it is possible that it was originally concieved that Project X was continuing onwards from DMC in that case but that they decided to cut their losses and go with a modern Bond.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:46 PM

I suggested in another thread that maybe Project X was going to be the adventures of Bond before CR. A bit of a bridge between Young Bond and Fleming. It still is, it's just been moved to present day (but lets not turn this thread into another continuity discussion).

But it's possible Project X was always about rebooting Bond in present day.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:48 PM

Well, I'd expect it might be locked shortly before X1 is released but I'd be very surprised if they've done anything more than fishing around for interest at the moment.

Do we know how long ago Deaver was locked into place yet?


I thought I had heard or read somewhere that he had been working on the outline for 7 months.

Heck, they probably started the whole Project X thing not too long after the release of DMC.

Zoe Watkins said this in 2005, when talking about the 2008 centenary novel...
“We are still in the planning stages, but at the moment the idea would be to have it done by an established author – potentially a big name,” said Zoe Watkins of IFP. “The literary Bond is something we want to focus on and any work would have to be in keeping with the literary aspects of the books. If it was successful there could be scope for further novels.


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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:50 PM

(but lets not turn this thread into another continuity discussion).


Indeed.

Back on topic, definitely like to see something at the end - even if not a title or an author (or the first chapter when X1 is reprinted in paperback) then just a James Bond Will Return. Unless EON have got that trademarked/copyright (delete as applicable).

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:53 PM

Zoe Watkins said this in 2005, when talking about the 2008 centenary novel...

“We are still in the planning stages, but at the moment the idea would be to have it done by an established author – potentially a big name,” said Zoe Watkins of IFP. “The literary Bond is something we want to focus on and any work would have to be in keeping with the literary aspects of the books. If it was successful there could be scope for further novels.

I'm wondering how much Casino Royale impacted their thinking. It did show how a Bond reboot could work. They might have seen that in 2006 and started thinking about how to do the same thing with the books. Project X is the result.

Back on topic, definitely like to see something at the end - even if not a title or an author (or the first chapter when X1 is reprinted in paperback) then just a James Bond Will Return. Unless EON have got that trademarked/copyright (delete as applicable).

Good point. Maybe Danjaq "owns" that in some way.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 04:59 PM

Zoe Watkins said this in 2005, when talking about the 2008 centenary novel...

“We are still in the planning stages, but at the moment the idea would be to have it done by an established author – potentially a big name,” said Zoe Watkins of IFP. “The literary Bond is something we want to focus on and any work would have to be in keeping with the literary aspects of the books. If it was successful there could be scope for further novels.

I'm wondering how much Casino Royale impacted their thinking. It did show how a Bond reboot could work. They might have seen that in 2006 and started thinking about how to do the same thing with the books. Project X is the result.



I suspect if the CR reboot had not happened or if it had failed, there would be no reboot in the books now.

As for the topic, I wouldn't be surprised if a "James Bond will return..." kind of motif happened. By the time X goes to print, Author #2 may well be into their outline or first draft - that is, if the books are released annually or even every two years.

However, they may just wait to see how X does for deciding to commission the second book.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:03 PM

Zoe Watkins said this in 2005, when talking about the 2008 centenary novel...

“We are still in the planning stages, but at the moment the idea would be to have it done by an established author – potentially a big name,” said Zoe Watkins of IFP. “The literary Bond is something we want to focus on and any work would have to be in keeping with the literary aspects of the books. If it was successful there could be scope for further novels.

I'm wondering how much Casino Royale impacted their thinking. It did show how a Bond reboot could work. They might have seen that in 2006 and started thinking about how to do the same thing with the books. Project X is the result.


However, they may just wait to see how X does for deciding to commission the second book.

Like zencat said above, I don't think they'll wait. Books take too long to produce to do that and IFP knows Bond sells. It's not like the movie business where the studio needs millions of dollars just to make a profit.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:28 PM

There's also the issue of selling these books to publishers. I'm sure at IFP has a multi book deal already in place, at least with Hodder. Part of the appeal of this is they are offering a series, not just a one off. Publishers like series' as much as we do. B)

(And, knock on wood, I don't think there's a danger of a Deaver's book failing so badly IFP would never want to do another book and no publisher would ever be interested in publishing a James Bond book ever again. Not like this is an untested property here.)

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:37 PM

...at the end of Jeffrey Deaver's Project X novel we will get the name of the next book and author?


Erm, yes, it is too much to hope for. It's just fanboy wishful thinking, I'm afraid. B) In any case, the info would be leaked long before release day, by someone working at the printer's or in a bookshop.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:38 PM

...at the end of Jeffrey Deaver's Project X novel we will get the name of the next book and author?


Erm, yes, it is too much to hope for. It's just fanboy wishful thinking, I'm afraid. :tdown: In any case, the info would be leaked long before release day, by someone working at the printer's or in a bookshop.

B)

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:40 PM

If it's to be a series, as was confirmed by Deaver, then IFP cannot wait for sales figures*. They'd have to establish the thing fairly quick, perhaps even push X-2 a little faster than they plan on the subsequent books. I suspect IFP already know who's to pen X-2 and X-3, perhaps even up to X-5 or so.


*A lot of the sales figures come actually up before the book hits shelves as the big chains order in advance as does Amazon. A lot of the make or brake of a book is decided upon before the first 'regular' reader turns the first page.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:44 PM

...at the end of Jeffrey Deaver's Project X novel we will get the name of the next book and author?


Erm, yes, it is too much to hope for. It's just fanboy wishful thinking, I'm afraid. :tdown: In any case, the info would be leaked long before release day, by someone working at the printer's or in a bookshop.

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Okay, revised idea! The back of the book has a code. Five digit number. You plug that number into the Project X website and, bingo, the new author and book is revealed! That code will not work until release day, so no danger of a leak. Yes, it's another fanboyish idea, but that's what you're paying me for. B)