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What Skills should Jeffery Deever's Modern James Bond have?


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#1 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 02:18 PM

I figure besides what languages should he know are there any skills he should be good at? In terms of Fighting, or Information Technology or even in Cards. Basically what should the new 007 be about?

#2 Zorin Industries

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 02:34 PM

He should be able to Twitter in four seconds.

"Met Sleeper Agent @ bus stop. LOL!"

#3 Jim

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 02:38 PM

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#4 Zorin Industries

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 02:44 PM

Be able to know his cuisine inside out when ordering from his local Subway eaterie.

Be able to spot fake jewels on QVC.

Be ready to rise to the occasion of 'Dress Down Friday'.

Be fully aware of the privacy settings on the likes of Facebook as there are plenty of BORIS GRESHENKO's out there willing and able to hack into BOND's holiday snaps of Paris and the results of his last Farmville game.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 02:48 PM

He should be able to Twitter in four seconds.

"Met Sleeper Agent @ bus stop. LOL!"


I think I'd have to give up reading if that were to happen.


He should have the same skills past Bonds have had. But he shouldn't be superhuman.

Oh,and it's "Deaver". With an "A".

#6 OmarB

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 03:26 PM

I would love Bond having better and more oft used hand to hand skills. As a lifelong martial artist it's just something I would love to see. I would have him learn throughout his life (much like how I started karate at 5) so by the time he's in the Navy he would be a complete beast and one of the first selected for 00 Section.

#7 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 04:47 PM

I would love Bond having better and more oft used hand to hand skills. As a lifelong martial artist it's just something I would love to see. I would have him learn throughout his life (much like how I started karate at 5) so by the time he's in the Navy he would be a complete beast and one of the first selected for 00 Section.

thank god i was fearing no one would take my thread seriously. Sorry about the typo in the title i created the thread using my phone while bored at work.
Id like for 007 to not only be a better fighter but also a hold em poker player. as for language he should speak Mandarin, Arabic, and French fluently and a passable Russain and german

#8 Loomis

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 05:17 PM

What skills should he have? None. Skills are "trade".

He ought to be able to hold a conversation in a couple of foreign languages. I suggest Mandarin and (as a nod to Fleming) French. Anything more than that and it would be ridiculous - don't forget that James Bond, while an intelligent chap, was never meant to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, let alone a linguistic genius.

I don't like the idea of his having any particular expertise in the martial arts. What, he's supposed to be Bruce Lee all of a sudden? No, as long as he knows how to throw a punch and has the cunning and toughness to wing his way through a streetfight, that's all that's required.

He needs to be an accomplished pick-up artist and a good shot. He doesn't go the gym, having neither the time nor the inclination. He gets all his exercise in the field.

Well, that's about it.

#9 OmarB

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 05:20 PM

Yeah, I noticed this wasn't as serious as it could have been before I came in. But yeah, I see the value of training in the martial arts and it's something that's been apart of who I am since I was 5.

Tieing in to what you said about the languages, my first Sensei was Japanese and he conducted class solely in Japanese. I've also had a Korean Kuk Sa Nim who conducted classes totally in Korean. I've gotta pretty good handle on both these languages now, the ex girlfriend and I even lived in Japan (work abroad program) for a year.

#10 Aris007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 05:43 PM

Well if you take into account the fact that he used to write common thrillers there's not much to talk about. I imagine great description in places and faces(just like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle) a must in thrillers if you ask me and like he said in his interview many plot twists and turns.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:07 PM

I don't like the idea of his having any particular expertise in the martial arts. What, he's supposed to be Bruce Lee all of a sudden? No, as long as he knows how to throw a punch and has the cunning and toughness to wing his way through a streetfight, that's all that's required.


He shouldn't be a 9th Dan black belt in Taekwondo, but he should have been trained in the hand-to-hand comabat techniques members of say, the British Special Forces are trained in. That is a martial art.

Edited by whiteskwirl, 09 June 2010 - 06:08 PM.


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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:09 PM

He doesn't go the gym, having neither the time nor the inclination. He gets all his exercise in the field.



No. Sorry, but definitely no. You don't get exercise in the field, you get bulletholes, broken bones and a bashed in skull, after which the remains are sent back home (if you're lucky) or buried in some godforsaken wasteground. Having an extremely exclusive (and ultra-secret) club of black-ops killers and then trusting the job to somebody whose sole recommendation and talent is the lacklustre ability to survive a pup-brawl is somehow contradictory. If anything, training is imperative for X-Bond.

In return the amount of sensitive paperwork should be cut. Sending an agent into the field knowing about the escape routes, personnel and covert SIS stations around the world is asking for trouble. 00s should be kept far from sensitive information beyond the specific needs of the respective assignment.

That's not to mean X-Bond and his fellow 00s should look like bodybuilders. Stamina and endurance should be emphasised, thuggish ruffian looks avoided. Bond should be able to run a daily training average of 10 kilometres and a long marathon distance (42 kilometres) whenever needed. That sounds harder than it really is for someone whose life depends upon his physical abilities.

Martial arts training should feature twice a week, although with any kyus, dans, belts and breaking tests removed. The training should not be a specific style of martial art but a mixture solely for the purpose to subdue an opponent as fast as possible. Think Krav Maga or a similar close quarters style that's primarily set on causing maximum harm. Bond should not become Bruce Lee. But he should be able to give Lee a hard time. Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:15 PM

Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.


Definitely Taekwondo or kickboxing, then.

#14 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:15 PM

Yeah, I noticed this wasn't as serious as it could have been before I came in. But yeah, I see the value of training in the martial arts and it's something that's been apart of who I am since I was 5.

Tieing in to what you said about the languages, my first Sensei was Japanese and he conducted class solely in Japanese. I've also had a Korean Kuk Sa Nim who conducted classes totally in Korean. I've gotta pretty good handle on both these languages now, the ex girlfriend and I even lived in Japan (work abroad program) for a year.

that is so cool should bond be able to hack?

#15 Aris007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:18 PM

Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.


Definitely Taekwondo or kickboxing, then.


I can assure you. Taekwondo isn't that much effective! I have a black belt, I know! It's only for the essential. Not very appropriate for a 00 agent!

#16 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:35 PM

Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.


Definitely Taekwondo or kickboxing, then.


I can assure you. Taekwondo isn't that much effective! I have a black belt, I know! It's only for the essential. Not very appropriate for a 00 agent!

i figure Krav maga would be the best option.

#17 Aris007

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:42 PM

Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.


Definitely Taekwondo or kickboxing, then.


I can assure you. Taekwondo isn't that much effective! I have a black belt, I know! It's only for the essential. Not very appropriate for a 00 agent!

i figure Krav maga would be the best option.


I will call you on that!

#18 marktmurphy

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:44 PM

Well he is Special Forces, so his skills should probably reflect that more than they did in the Flemings: the Special Forces have changed a bit since then. I liked the CraigBond story of him being ex-SBS.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:46 PM

Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.


Definitely Taekwondo or kickboxing, then.


I can assure you. Taekwondo isn't that much effective! I have a black belt, I know! It's only for the essential. Not very appropriate for a 00 agent!


I was making a joke, a play on "arms".

Personally, I think the belts should be done away with. After all, having a (first degree) black belt merely means you know the basics. The other colored belts are just a clever way "McDojos" make money.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:48 PM

I'm fairly sure in one of the Chris Ryan books it suggests that the SAS work with the Mossad in doing training and thus a lot of the SAS have knowledge of Krav Maga as part of the training exchange.

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:06 PM

He shouldn't be a 9th Dan black belt in Taekwondo, but he should have been trained in the hand-to-hand comabat techniques members of say, the British Special Forces are trained in. That is a martial art.



Martial arts training should feature twice a week, although with any kyus, dans, belts and breaking tests removed. The training should not be a specific style of martial art but a mixture solely for the purpose to subdue an opponent as fast as possible. Think Krav Maga or a similar close quarters style that's primarily set on causing maximum harm. Bond should not become Bruce Lee. But he should be able to give Lee a hard time. Bond mustn't be an invincible superhero, but he must definitely be dangerous even without arms.

I completely agree. Bond should know some martial arts but not be an unbeatable master at them. I also think he should be a skilled marksman, knife thrower, and knife fighter and/or fencer. As for foreign languages, he should know French and German.

#22 TheREAL008

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Posted 09 June 2010 - 11:32 PM

Bond being trained by both SAS and the US Navy SEALs.

Agree on Krav Maga wholeheartedly.

#23 OmarB

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 12:35 AM

I hear what you're saying about Krav Maga. But I think the British military has their own martial art if you wanted something analogous to Israel's military system. I've workshoped in Krav Maga and it's basically techniques skimmed off the top of more traditional styles. In that sense it's very much lime the US Marine's MCMAP style which I think is just as effective.

As I said initially, he does not have to be some sort of big deal in whatever martial art. I just think it would be cool and possibly put him ahead of the curve in the selection process for the 00 Section. Like myself he could be a lifelong student who ranks in a couple styles and train diligently when he's in town.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 01:35 AM

A quick search on google suggests that a form of martial arts known as goshinkwai is the formal recognised art of the SAS. This seems to be a variation of goshindo which is, in itself, a merging of karate, aikido and jujitsu - with numerous weapons disciplines in the mix.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 05:11 AM

It would actually not be necessary to name the hand-to-hand style. Just think no-holds-barred and every conceivable object used as weapon, that should suffice. And lots of varied training under different circumstances.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 05:32 AM

Bond being trained by both SAS and the US Navy SEALs.


Bond is ex-SBS and Royal Navy, no significant history with either the SAS or US Navy Seals.

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Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:03 AM

Bond being trained by both SAS and the US Navy SEALs.


Bond is ex-SBS and Royal Navy, no significant history with either the SAS or US Navy Seals.


Well, the Bond we've come to know is ex-SBS and RN. Not necessarily this new version.

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 12:08 PM

Bond being trained by both SAS and the US Navy SEALs.


Bond is ex-SBS and Royal Navy, no significant history with either the SAS or US Navy Seals.


Well, the Bond we've come to know is ex-SBS and RN. Not necessarily this new version.


No, but if Craig's Bond and Fleming's Bond are ex-Navy, then why not Deaver's?

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 06:35 PM

I think Bond should definetly be trained in some form of martial arts. Hell, maybe it isnt a SPECIFIC martial art per se like Karate or Kung-fu or whatever but just basic hand-to-hand combat or just a bunch of useful moves from various disciplines which the 00's are trained in. At any rate, Bond should know how to kill a man with his bare hands.

In addition to his shooting skills, Bond should also be an effectively knife-wielder and should know how to use a variety of other weapons such as garrotte wires and blunt instruments as well effectively. He should also know a fair bit abour poisons and also about explosives and means to detonate them. Considering that he is an assassin of sorts it makes sense for him to be trained in a number of ways to kill people.

Bond should also be good with electronics of any kind (for disabling alarms, security systems, power supplies etc.) and should have at least a rudimentary knowledge of computer hacking.

Bond should be able to handle any type of vehicle with ease, be it a car, a motorcycle, a boat or even a plane.

As far as language is concerned, I think Bond should know French, German and Russian fluently and Spanish, Italian and maybe Mandarin or Japanese passably.

Basically Bond should kinda be a jack of all trades, master of none (not ABSOLUTE master at any rate...)

#30 Harry Fawkes

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:10 PM

Being ex-SBS says it all and Deaver would make a grave mistake not giving his version of Bond that sort of background.

No doubt that Bond would have also been attached to the SAS for a period (compulsary in the BA nowadays for members of the SBS) which inturn would have given him the skills inherant of two of the best Special Forces outfits, if not the best SF outfits, in the world.

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