tdalton doesn't seem to have posted his third submission - maybe he's thinking
I don't really have any ideas for the remaining fields. If someone else would like to take my third turn, they're more than welcome to it.

Posted 31 October 2010 - 12:03 AM
tdalton doesn't seem to have posted his third submission - maybe he's thinking
Posted 31 October 2010 - 12:09 AM
Posted 31 October 2010 - 12:09 AM
I don't really have a problem with tha name Feliz. When I used the example of Bernando O'Higgins, I was thinking that we could make up a similar family history for Feliz: although born in Nambola, he is the direct descendant of a group of Spanish or Portuguese sailors who were shipwrecked off the coast at some point. Rather than try returning home, they settled down in Nambola and started families. One of them was named Feliz, and his name perpetuated for a few generations.Hmmm...the only ones that caught my eye are Makutsi and Sephotho. But Makutsi almost sounds Japanese, so I'll go with Sephotho. President Henrik Sephotho of NambolaI've compiled a list of viable names (from the No. 1 Ladie's Detective Agency series which is set in Botswana):
Makutsi
Matekoni
Potokwane
Polopetsi
Radiphuti
Sephotho
But we could also look at other Botswanan politicians to borrow surnames from - since Nambola is, at least, geophysically, based on Botswana.Also, any plans to open the floor for the next turn, terminus?
If this is the case, then I think Yelena should be introduced into the story sooner. The way I envisioned it, Bond would infiltrate Nambola through Yelena's ballet company. After all, she is the main Bond girl, but she's not coming into it until later in the game. We could, perhaps, have Bond tailing Mr. White through St. petersburg while he waits for the other Double-Ohs and in a Tosca-like sequence, have Bond watch Mr. White at the open-air ballet. Even if Bond isn't going to Africa as a part of the ballet company, I just think Yelena should come into the story somewhere so that her presence late in the film oesn't come out of nowhere.Nambola: Bond arrives in Nambola as part of a trade delegation to the space tourism launch centre that the European Space Agency are setting up in the country. He meets Vera at a ballet recital - where he sees Yelena dancing and observes Henrik - and uses Vera to get him into a private function afterwards where he meets Henrik in-person as well as Henrik's thuggish manservant, Mesquito.
I didn't quite shoot it down. I was just playing with Henrik's pathology a little. He likes the ballet because, to his mind, they are perfect people. They're lean, beautiful, athletic; the perfect balance of speed, precision and harmony. As the prima donna, Yelena may well capture Henrik's attention and he intends to have his way with her - except that when he gets her alone and removes her scarf, he spots her Chernobyl Necklace (the surgical scar - remember, she's Belorussian and survived the Chernobyl disaster) and sees it as affrontery. She is no longer perfect in his eyes, and he slaps her around rather than sleeping with her.Bond places the presidential palace under observation, observes Yelena leaving the following morning, noticeably perturbed and perhaps bruised (I know CT disagreed on the possibility that Henrik would abuse Yelena) which causes Bond to follow her - charming her into having lunch with him at which point he digs for information on Henrik. Yelena confirms Bond's thoughts - that Henrik is almost schizophrenic, perfectly polite and socıalısed in public but an absolute animal and brutish in private.
Yelena has to survive the assassination attempt with the poisoned honey at some point. Perhaps he could attempt to poison her rather than have her arrested. She survives either because of Bond's intervention, because Henrik erred and didn't give her enough, or because we take poetic licence and write grayanotoxin as affecting the thyroid, which Yelena has had surgery on. Perhaps a combination of all three: Henrik doesn't give her enough, and what he does give her is slowed down by he thyroid, giving Bond more time to find an antidote.Yelena didn't witness anything that could connect Henrik to Hildebrand - but Bond asks her to go back into the spiders lair, placing a limited range bug onto a computer terminal. This she does - allowing Bond to hack into the computer system and dig up files connecting to where Hildebrand has been stowed away. Bond tracks down Hildebrand - and an orchestrated sequence of capture and escape proceeds. Bond learns that Hildebrand hasn't been exactly uncooperative with Quantum when he betrays the agent to Henrik. At the same time, Henrik learns that Yelena planted the computer bug and has her arrested on espionage charges. Bond learns what Henrik is up to - to use the chemical process that Hildebrand has developed on governmental stockpiles of gold to turn them into worthless lead. Whilst turning the Nambolan stockpiles of lead into gold - crashing the economies of first world countries and causing Nambola's wealth to octuple overnight. Noble aims - furthered by unfortunately ignoble methods. Bond and Yelena must escape.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 12:27 AM
Also, I'm not sure if this has been addressed: where is Nambola? I know it's in Africa and it's based on Botswana, but where in Africa? Is it Saharan like Morocco, or temperate like South Africa? Is it on the east coast or the west or somewhere in the middle? Is it covered by desert, savannah or dense jungle? And what is its capital?
If this is the case, then I think Yelena should be introduced into the story sooner. The way I envisioned it, Bond would infiltrate Nambola through Yelena's ballet company. After all, she is the main Bond girl, but she's not coming into it until later in the game. We could, perhaps, have Bond tailing Mr. White through St. petersburg while he waits for the other Double-Ohs and in a Tosca-like sequence, have Bond watch Mr. White at the open-air ballet. Even if Bond isn't going to Africa as a part of the ballet company, I just think Yelena should come into the story somewhere so that her presence late in the film oesn't come out of nowhere.
I didn't quite shoot it down. I was just playing with Henrik's pathology a little. He likes the ballet because, to his mind, they are perfect people. They're lean, beautiful, athletic; the perfect balance of speed, precision and harmony. As the prima donna, Yelena may well capture Henrik's attention and he intends to have his way with her - except that when he gets her alone and removes her scarf, he spots her Chernobyl Necklace (the surgical scar - remember, she's Belorussian and survived the Chernobyl disaster) and sees it as affrontery. She is no longer perfect in his eyes, and he slaps her around rather than sleeping with her.
Yelena has to survive the assassination attempt with the poisoned honey at some point. Perhaps he could attempt to poison her rather than have her arrested. She survives either because of Bond's intervention, because Henrik erred and didn't give her enough, or because we take poetic licence and write grayanotoxin as affecting the thyroid, which Yelena has had surgery on. Perhaps a combination of all three: Henrik doesn't give her enough, and what he does give her is slowed down by he thyroid, giving Bond more time to find an antidote.
TBC: This is a relatively standalone sequence designed to introduce us to Bond. After which, Bond is recalled to MI6.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:15 AM
If we implied that the arrest warrant/assassination order was issued because Yelena rejected Henrik rather than for actual espionage, it would just go to show how unstable he it. I know we said Henrik slaps her around because she was less than perfect, but if he made it an "open secret" that she had rejected him and let his people know it (people tend to remember incidents and disputes in such a way that they are the victim), I think it would go even further to show how unbalanced he can be.Again - definitely something I can use. I had completely forgotten about the grayanotoxin assasination - and will need to remember that for when I do the next draft. From my limited research, I could see Henrik lacing some food with the toxin - and although she eats it, Bond saves her before she takes a high dose. Given that symptoms can often not occur for several hours, it could be during their escape that Yelena begins to show symptoms - and Bond has to use scavenged medical supplies from a clinic to treat her with atropines and vasopressors to save her.
The sequence could be a bit like the sequence in CR in which Bond is poisoned in his drink and MI6 staff have to treat him over the phone - albeit this time Bond wouldn't have the help of the Aston Martin tech.
How about Turkey, or maybe Georgia? I like the latter better.I also need a location for this bit of the treatment -
TBC: This is a relatively standalone sequence designed to introduce us to Bond. After which, Bond is recalled to MI6.
I'd be looking, possibly, to use the location for a car chase - but am open to the country of the setting. Just give me something interesting (but sensible for a car chase to occur) to play with!
Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:26 AM
Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:34 AM
Oh, but that's the beauty of it - although there is a connection, it's not immediately obvious. Bond doesn't make the connection until Yelena is poisoned. After all, MI6 think that the operation is just someone harvesting opium or cannabis. He could acquire a sample of the rhododendron and/or the contaminated honey for MI6 to analyse, but they won't pick up on the Nambola connection until much later.That's certainly an interesting proposal - although I'd prefer to not make the connection to Nambola immediately at that point.
I hadn't even thought of that, but it works really well.It would be an excellent explanation as to why Bond recognises the symptoms of grayanotoxin in Nambola when he rescues Yelena from Henrik.
I suggested a winery because I wanted to run with something that just seemed to ordinary. You'd look at it and you think "here's a guy who produces his own wine and is a beekeeping enthusiast", but then you'd find out he's running a chemical weapons depot with it.I once saw a documentary about Turkey and the spice trade/silk road - which showed some old outpost forts in the desert that had fallen into disrepair and ruin. This could be the base of operation of the 'drug dealers' that Bond is investigating.
That was the objective.I think I'm growing more and more to like the idea of using the grayanotoxin route for the sequence - it's standalone, yet arms Bond with a piece of knowledge he'll need for later in the movie.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:36 AM
I suggested a winery because I wanted to run with something that just seemed to ordinary. You'd look at it and you think "here's a guy who produces his own wine and is a beekeeping enthusiast", but then you'd find out he's running a chemical weapons depot with it.
Ancient ruins are dotted all over Turkey ... how about one of lesser reknown that he been converted into a winery because most archeologists are more intereste in other, more important ruins in the local area? I think that would really give the thing a sense of atmosphere.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:41 AM
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 03:19 AM
Hmmmm - I liked it until Mr White turned up.
I don't mind Quinn being killed in the movie, but thought it would make a better part of the St. Petersburg sequence if it was to take place (I was going to check with you if you minded her being killed off or wanted to take her through to UB28). I had her showing up on CCTV and leading MI6 into a trap - whilst this could function just as well with Mr White showing up on CCTV, I think the added dimension in having Quinn being the one leading the Quantum squad through the Scarlet Sails would add depth to that segment.
I still think the original PTS outline could work just as well - even if 'Mr Roberts' only turns up in the Scarlet Sails sequence too. He'd be a background thug - no name, no characterisation, all we know if he works for Quantum and follows Quinn's orders.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 03:25 AM
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:15 AM
Fair comment. But I really would like to see Quinn in the St. Petersburg sequence - and, if you so want, killing her off there. She's been used to lure MI6 to St. Petersburg (as I have M and Bond acknowledge in the briefing when she's caught on CCTV and seen boarding a plane - it's a trap) but when it comes down to 'taking down the section' during the Scarlet Sails, I pictured Quinn as having an almost single minded pursuit of Bond in particular which brings about her ultimate downfall - she either focuses on him, oblivious to the other two operatives and one of them shoots her, or she pursues Bond and he kills her before moving on to deal with Mr White.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 06:31 AM
Posted 31 October 2010 - 11:48 AM
Perhaps we could have Quinn and Bond get separated from the main fight during tbe Scarlet Sails. I'm picturing them fighting atop a hovercraft that is negotiating it way around ships and galleons out in the water (around here) during the eight of the celebrations - middle of the night, fireworks; everything - meanwhile, the other two agents are pinned down under fire at the Peter and Paul Fortress (where Bond and Quinn boarded the hovercraft - the star-shaped building on the map). Bond and Quinn's fight ends with the two of them falling from the hovercraft; Bond is able to swim away, but Quinn is pulled under. He returns to the fortress in the middle of the fight to find 0011 dead an 008 injured.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:54 PM
Dear God! You go out for a few hours to unwind on a Saturday night and the whole world seems to have changed when you get back....
This is moving way too fast for me....
I only just got my head around the ballet dancer...
The only idea that I really have left regarding a way to keep the Quinn character going would be to have her survive the film, but make it out of the showdown between the Double-ohs and Mr. White heavily injured and scarred, with perhaps that bringing out the worst parts of her persona that would have been created through the experimental drugs that she were forced upon her in Afghanistan. Maybe that finally completely breaks her grip with sanity, and she just goes full-on after Bond in the next project, which would then include the hiring of the Koteas "Shaw" character as her partner/henchman in the effort.
Perhaps we could have Quinn and Bond get separated from the main fight during tbe Scarlet Sails. I'm picturing them fighting atop a hovercraft that is negotiating it way around ships and galleons out in the water (around here) during the eight of the celebrations - middle of the night, fireworks; everything - meanwhile, the other two agents are pinned down under fire at the Peter and Paul Fortress (where Bond and Quinn boarded the hovercraft - the star-shaped building on the map). Bond and Quinn's fight ends with the two of them falling from the hovercraft; Bond is able to swim away, but Quinn is pulled under. He returns to the fortress in the middle of the fight to find 0011 dead an 008 injured.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:22 PM
It's not; it's an Entr'acte sequence; between the action sequences.Well done, Matt, but that's not an action sequence.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:24 PM
That doesn't matter. The point of the pro forma is to use it as a basis from which to develop the whole story. It doesn't help at all to add your own fields whilst ignoring the previously conceived ones (in this case using up the Action Sequence with this one). This is not the first time you've been guilty of this.It's not; it's an Entr'acte sequence; between the action sequences.Well done, Matt, but that's not an action sequence.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:30 PM
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Since the issue has kind of come up in Mr. Blofeld's exposition scene, what have we decided to do with the Quinn character? Is the PTS, as I've currently got it configured with Mr. White eliminating her, going to stand? Is she going to be eliminated later in the story, or is she being carried over into UB28 to be paired with the Koteas "Shaw" character after being disfigured in this story?
I'm just wondering so I can adjust the PTS again (if it's even necesssary) to avoid confusion so that you all can develop the main body of the story without people getting confused by the various versions of the PTS floating out there.
Very well; ignore me. I lose a turn. I don't care.
*sigh*