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[HildebrandRarity]

I'd be surprised if anyone involved was totally satisfied with it.

I can only think of David Arnold being satisfied.

Why?

The soundtrack was pretty good.

It was much better than his other stuff, but still pretty average.

Unfortunately, it was the best thing about QoS.

You didn't like Daniel Craig's fantastic performance?

[bondrules]

I'd be surprised if anyone involved was totally satisfied with it.

I can only think of David Arnold being satisfied.

Why?

Yeah, I did. I just think that it wasted

The soundtrack was pretty good.

It was much better than his other stuff, but still pretty average.

Unfortunately, it was the best thing about QoS.

You didn't like Daniel Craig's fantastic performance?

I sure did. He was terrific as usual. I just don't believe that he was given enough to really make him proud. A wasted opportunity I believe. As a whole, I was soooooo disappointed with the movie, that i can't bring myself to watch it again (I can listen to the soundtrack on any given day though, hence my previous post). Maybe my expectations were too high, or maybe I just wanted it to be really good so that I could claim I was in a good Bond movie. I dunno. To be honest, when I tell ppl to look me up, and tell them I was in it, they usually reply "Oh, that one" with not much excitement. I think that pretty much tells the story.

[HildebrandRarity]

Sorry to hear about your feelings on the movie you were in.

If it's any consolation to you, I find Quantum to be the best James Bond film of them all thus far. Q0S makes almost all the other ones seem either childish OR just way too long and partially pedestrian. Glacial, even.

Quantum moves like a Bullit and I love what Craig and Forster and Arnold did with it!



Cheers.

[bondrules]

Sorry to hear about your feelings on the movie you were in.

If it's any consolation to you, I find Quantum to be the best James Bond film of them all thus far. Q0S makes almost all the other ones seem either childish OR just way too long and partially pedestrian. Glacial, even.

Quantum moves like a Bullit and I love what Craig and Forster and Arnold did with it!



Cheers.

I'll remember that for the next soul I tell. Some ppl really thought the world of QoS.

Hildy, you liked it better than CR? In all seriousness?

[HildebrandRarity]

Yes because I didn't want to leave the sofa while watching Quantum whereas I found my mind wandering in some bits of Royale at times while at other times I decided to take a piss or go to the refrigerator to get a snack or pour myself a drink...while the movie was still playing!

[bondrules]

Yes because I didn't want to leave the sofa while watching Quantum whereas I found my mind wandering in some bits of Royale at times while at other times I decided to take a piss or go to the refrigerator to get a snack or pour myself a drink...while the movie was still playing!

The pace was a dealbraker?

[O.H.M.S.S.]

Yes because I didn't want to leave the sofa while watching Quantum whereas I found my mind wandering in some bits of Royale at times while at other times I decided to take a piss or go to the refrigerator to get a snack or pour myself a drink...while the movie was still playing!

Really? I don't ever feel like that when watching a Bond movie.

Edited by O.H.M.S.S., 14 January 2010 - 09:29 PM.

[HildebrandRarity]

Yes because I didn't want to leave the sofa while watching Quantum whereas I found my mind wandering in some bits of Royale at times while at other times I decided to take a piss or go to the refrigerator to get a snack or pour myself a drink...while the movie was still playing!

The pace was a dealbraker?

Dealbreaker?

No.

You enquired about my preferences of one over the other.

No Bond Movie is a 'dealbreaker' but some are better than others, non?

Yes because I didn't want to leave the sofa while watching Quantum whereas I found my mind wandering in some bits of Royale at times while at other times I decided to take a piss or go to the refrigerator to get a snack or pour myself a drink...while the movie was still playing!

Really? I don't ever feel like that when watching a Bond movie.

Then you probably have an unusually large bladder.

Either that or I have a small bladder OR a short attention span.

[bondrules]

Yes because I didn't want to leave the sofa while watching Quantum whereas I found my mind wandering in some bits of Royale at times while at other times I decided to take a piss or go to the refrigerator to get a snack or pour myself a drink...while the movie was still playing!

The pace was a dealbraker?

Dealbreaker?

No.

You enquired about my preferences of one over the other.

No Bond Movie is a 'dealbreaker' but some are better than others, non?

LOL. Fair enough.

[marktmurphy]

I'd be surprised if anyone involved was totally satisfied with it.

That is only opinion. And there are very few films where those responsible for making it are wholly satisfied with the end product.

I'm not sure how else one could take the phrase 'I'd be surprised' as anything but my opinion!

It's not a very strong film, I know the sort of film they like; they considered Casino Royale a great success (and I'd say they probably were wholly satisfied with that)... it's a pretty decent estimation, I'd say.

[The Shark]

I'd be surprised if anyone involved was totally satisfied with it.

I can only think of David Arnold being satisfied.

Why?

The soundtrack was pretty good.

It was much better than his other stuff, but still pretty average.

Unfortunately, it was the best thing about QoS.

You didn't like Daniel Craig's fantastic performance?

Not much to perform with. For the majority of the film Craig has the same gormless, near dead expression on his face, occasionally mumbling words. For the rest he's reduced to little more than a thuggish stuntman/Donkey Kong/Sonic the Hedgehog.

Not much to enjoy.

[DamnCoffee]

For a fact, most of the work we did in Panama was gutted in the editing room. I almost feel I wasted my time during those weeks. I got in touch with some of the other extras after the film hit the theaters, and we all share the same opinion. I have a love/hate felling about Quantum b/c of it. Love b/c I was part of it, hate b/c the outcome was lousy.

Oh? I wouldn't mind hearing more about this? What kind of stuff was actually cut?

[bondrules]

For a fact, most of the work we did in Panama was gutted in the editing room. I almost feel I wasted my time during those weeks. I got in touch with some of the other extras after the film hit the theaters, and we all share the same opinion. I have a love/hate felling about Quantum b/c of it. Love b/c I was part of it, hate b/c the outcome was lousy.

Oh? I wouldn't mind hearing more about this? What kind of stuff was actually cut?

I think I mentioned it somewhere before, but I was in a scene were Taubman yanks a cocktail glass from a woman, there was another where we were dancing. There was lots of footage shot at the party. Most ppl who were at that venue were upset that so little was kept.

They also hired a well known news anchor (A. Rodriguez), and local TV personalities for small roles, not just as extras. All of those scenes were shot and never made it to screen.

[Zorin Industries]

But that is the nature of the beast - to provide the director and editor with coverage and options. And if you are going to spend thousands on a set and dress it with oppulent extras, of course you are going to film everything. But that never always links to what it used.

[HildebrandRarity]

I want to see Daniel Craig as James Bond, not more of Taubman as Elvis or some news anchor who climbed out of a hole in a wall.

The movie was cut well.

Sorry about your situation, bondrules, but i'm quite happy with what transpired at that moment in the film.

[bondrules]

Yeah, but I think they took out too much. Scenes were way short anyways. They kept only three of the ones I was in.

CH16 - 0:54:33
CH16 - 0:54:45
CH17 - 0:57:35-37

[bondrules]

Hey Hildy, funny, all your positive remarks about QoS got me to finally watch it again. Even with everything that I still consider faulty with this movie, I had fun. Who knew?

[JimmyBond]

Hey Hildy, funny, all your positive remarks about QoS got me to finally watch it again. Even with everything that I still consider faulty with this movie, I had fun. Who knew?

It is a fun movie, the opening car chase always hooks me. Each and every time.

[bondrules]

Hey Hildy, funny, all your positive remarks about QoS got me to finally watch it again. Even with everything that I still consider faulty with this movie, I had fun. Who knew?

It is a fun movie, the opening car chase always hooks me. Each and every time.

Yeah, it's a pretty good PTS. I just watched the whole movie yet again.
I'm beginning to think that one of the main things that really throws me off is watching ppl I saw and hung out with for a couple weeks. Or watching me pop in and out. It just takes for me all the seriousness out of the picture. I guess I'll never truly be completely satisfied with Quantum.

[Bucky]

just curious bondrules, how did you end up being an extra in quantum of solace?

[bondrules]

just curious bondrules, how did you end up being an extra in quantum of solace?

Through a casting agency, but my wife met one of the producers, and he got me the gig. They didn't have enough caucasians for the hotel and the party. The producer actually wanted us both as a married couple in the picture, but b/c of scheduling problems she couldn't join me.

[Satorious]

Yes, Bond is the main character. But we still need some interesting supporting characters to make the film memorable and give motivation to the plot. Taubman has revealled more about Elvis in interviews than he gets to do in the final film. In fact you could entirely remove Elvis from the film and the whole plot still would work in exactly the same way. Which means therefore he is a dead-weight with no purpose which is in my opinion is not good film-making. Remove him, or make him relevant. I mean if there were only a tiny little scene where Elvis is shown as the one who is responsible for orchestrating Field's death because she humiliated him - it would at least give him something. Poor!

[DaveBond21]

Yes, Bond is the main character. But we still need some interesting supporting characters to make the film memorable and give motivation to the plot. Taubman has revealled more about Elvis in interviews than he gets to do in the final film. In fact you could entirely remove Elvis from the film and the whole plot still would work in exactly the same way. Which means therefore he is a dead-weight with no purpose which is in my opinion is not good film-making. Remove him, or make him relevant. I mean if there were only a tiny little scene where Elvis is shown as the one who is responsible for orchestrating Field's death because she humiliated him - it would at least give him something. Poor!

I don't think it would have been Elvis doing the actual killing. But I can imagine him asking Greene in a snivelling way..."Please, Dominic, can you kill her for me?"

[HildebrandRarity]

Yes, Bond is the main character. But we still need some interesting supporting characters to make the film memorable and give motivation to the plot...

So, you're suggesting Giannini, Kurylenko, Amalric and Dench were not good supporting actors...and their charachters weren't well fleshed-out?

I guess we must have watched two different movies.

I suppose I may be over-rating the film...I mean, I only paid to see it seven times with various people of differing backgrounds over a seven week period during it's theatrical run.

[DaveBond21]

I suppose I may be over-rating the film...I mean, I only paid to see it seven times with various people of differing backgrounds over a seven week period during it's theatrical run

Now that is dedication for you.

[The Shark]

I suppose I may be over-rating the film...I mean, I only paid to see it seven times with various people of differing backgrounds over a seven week period during it's theatrical run

Now that is dedication for you.

That's nothing.

I remember there was a user at MI6 called "Quantumofsolace" who ended up watching it 24 times.

We all thought he was nuts, though he had more nuts than us.

[bondrules]

I suppose I may be over-rating the film...I mean, I only paid to see it seven times with various people of differing backgrounds over a seven week period during it's theatrical run

Now that is dedication for you.

That's nothing.

I remember there was a user at MI6 called "Quantumofsolace" who ended up watching it 24 times.

We all thought he was nuts, though he had more nuts than us.

I've seen Raiders of the Lost Ark over 100 times. Well over. I lost count. I had it on VHS in the late 80's, watched it on cable, have had the DVD since 2003, and since it's the best movie of all time, there is no limit to how many more times I intend to watch it again.

[Daddy Bond]

Sorry to hear about your feelings on the movie you were in.

If it's any consolation to you, I find Quantum to be the best James Bond film of them all thus far. Q0S makes almost all the other ones seem either childish OR just way too long and partially pedestrian. Glacial, even.

Quantum moves like a Bullit and I love what Craig and Forster and Arnold did with it!



Cheers.

Hmmm, that's a lot of time to watch Raiders!

Hilde, I'm right there with you! My wife and I watched Quantum again last night. Wow! What a fantastic film! While I don't place it as my #1 favorite Bond film, it's close at #2. In fact, the more I watch the film, the better I like some of the editing. I think the opening PTS is genius! I might actually extend a couple of the shots elsewhere in the film, but overall QOS is tops IMHO! I'd write more, but I've posted a fairly large number of rather extensive posts praising QOS back shortly after it came out.

[Publius]

Thanks for the info. I wonder if Craig will give an honest appraisal of QoS when doing the promotional tour for Bond 23 - "This one is much more like CR and has a sense of fun that QoS lacked" etc. If so, it would remind me of Steven Spielberg's interviews about Last Crusade versus Temple of Doom back in '89.

I hope Bond 23 isn't his Last Crusade. While a good movie in its own right, it paled in comparison to the first two. I do think QOS is his Temple of Doom, the darker-than-its-predecessor and initially underrated cult classic of the Indy series.

Anyway, I'm sure every Bond actor has his own feelings about the Bond movies, not just the ones they did... and I sure as hell don't put any weight on what those opinions are. I believe Craig when he says he's looking forward to having more of a romp than we've seen of late, but I hope it's kept in check, a la Thunderball.

Not much to perform with. For the majority of the film Craig has the same gormless, near dead expression on his face, occasionally mumbling words. For the rest he's reduced to little more than a thuggish stuntman/Donkey Kong/Sonic the Hedgehog.

Sean Connery must be happy Donkey Kong and the Internet weren't around when he was cast as Bond...

[The Shark]

I hope Bond 23 isn't his Last Crusade. While a good movie in its own right, it paled in comparison to the first two.

What? It's my favourite of the three films.