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[The Shark]

I want a bond film like FRWL, FYEO, TLD, CR, and QOS

dark mysterious and suspensefull

FYEO and TLD are dark, mysterious and suspensefull?

Mysterious.... ...FYEO, TLD was Half Dark and Half RM Bond.

These are two examples of how a James Bond film should be...

Exactly:

TLD - Excellent

FYEO - Bloody terrible

[Zorin Industries]

Opinion masquerading as fact on CBN once again.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Opinion masquerading as fact on CBN once again.

I kmnow Like i said I stand by what i want and if mendes can deliver a film similar to the films i have metioned

(the list one more time Dr. No From Russia With Love On Her Majesties Secret Service, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, Licence to Kill, Casino Royale, and Quantum of solace)


Dark Mysterious with a realistic plot strong locations and great action.



Looking at the trailer for Road to perdiditon I feel Mendes can deliver that and once it's confirmed I will watch the full film.

[Zorin Industries]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

perhaps if i have mroe time to My self i will check out road to perdition iregardless but if he is signed on I will see road to perdityion before bond 23.

[The Shark]

Opinion masquerading as fact on CBN once again.

Do I have to add an "in my opinion" disclaimer every time I open my mouth or type?

I never explicitly stated it was fact or opinion. Though if one has a fair share of brain cells, one can infer that it's nothing but a mix of informed opinion and my own diatribe.

[Harmsway]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

[Peckinpah1976]

Opinion masquerading as fact on CBN once again.

Do I have to add an "in my opinion" disclaimer every time I open my mouth or type?

I never explicitly stated it was fact or opinion. Though if one has a fair share of brain cells, one can infer that it's nothing but a mix of informed opinion and my own diatribe.

Not a terribly well-informed opinion though, is it? FYEO and TLD are both mid-level entries in the series and both strictly mediocre in any wider, non-Bond sense and as such pretty indistinguishable from one another. The later film may well benefit from a fresher leading man and a better composer but these alone are hardly enough to push it into the 'Excellent' category.

Edited by Peckinpah1976, 31 January 2010 - 08:47 AM.

[Zorin Industries]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

And have you "bothered" to catch any of his other films and even theatre work? Have you seen AWAY WE GO, THE BLUE ROOM or his take on CABARET?

[Harmsway]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

And have you "bothered" to catch any of his other films and even theatre work? Have you seen AWAY WE GO, THE BLUE ROOM or his take on CABARET?

I have seen all five of Mendes' films.

My acquaintance with his stage work is considerably less comprehensive. I have seen his take on CABARET from the Donmar Warehouse and find it bold and interesting (though it was certainly improved when Rob Marshall was brought in as co-director for the Broadway production). Otherwise, I've not seen any of his other stage shows. But surely Mendes' film work is the key to the discussion here. There's no straight line between being a brilliant stage director and a brilliant film director, as Hal Prince demonstrates.

[Dekard77]

I feel with way QOS ended up, Eon will stick to the Bond formula that worked for RM and SC. Just a thought. Mendes will breath in some fresh ideas or twist of it. As far as Bond goes that is where he will end up. Cost of making movies aren't cheap either. So as long as they don't reach to far like Spidey 3 or Mummy 3 am sure it will be fine.

[Zorin Industries]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

And have you "bothered" to catch any of his other films and even theatre work? Have you seen AWAY WE GO, THE BLUE ROOM or his take on CABARET?

I have seen all five of Mendes' films.

My acquaintance with his stage work is considerably less comprehensive. I have seen his take on CABARET from the Donmar Warehouse and find it bold and interesting (though it was certainly improved when Rob Marshall was brought in as co-director for the Broadway production). Otherwise, I've not seen any of his other stage shows. But surely Mendes' film work is the key to the discussion here. There's no straight line between being a brilliant stage director and a brilliant film director, as Hal Prince demonstrates.

Sam Mendes' stage work would have got him as noticed and earmarked for any future Bond work as his film work. But I am glad to hear you have seen some of his stage work. Too many round here are scorning him based on what they have heard about films they haven't even seen, hence my initial tone.

[Harmsway]

Sam Mendes' stage work would have got him as noticed and earmarked for any future Bond work as his film work.

I could see why. His CABARET was very striking (if rough around the edges), and from what I hear, many of his other productions have been just as bold and interesting (I desperately wish I could have seen his TWELFTH NIGHT). It's a shame that he hasn't brought that same level of boldness, theatricality, and energy to his films to date.

[Zorin Industries]

Sam Mendes' stage work would have got him as noticed and earmarked for any future Bond work as his film work.

I could see why. His CABARET was very striking (if rough around the edges), and from what I hear, many of his other productions have been just as bold and interesting (I desperately wish I could have seen his TWELFTH NIGHT). It's a shame that he hasn't brought that same level of boldness, theatricality, and energy to his films to date.

I disagree - though JARHEAD wasn't the best film in my mind. AWAY WE GO - whilst not the boldest of films - is certainly very energetic and conveys a human reality and frailty most films wouldn't know how to convey.

It is worth noting here too that Barbara Broccoli is heavily into theatre and knows her directors.

[HildebrandRarity]

Barbara Broccoli is the leading light of all things James Bond.

The franchise is in good hands!

[byline]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

Really? I thought "American Beauty" was amazing.

[Harmsway]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

Really? I thought "American Beauty" was amazing.

There are few films I despise as much as AMERICAN BEAUTY.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Barbara Broccoli is the leading light of all things James Bond.

The franchise is in good hands!

Now can we get some offical confirmation on mendes sometime soon!

Ireally don't want to have to wait till June

[byline]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

Really? I thought "American Beauty" was amazing.

There are few films I despise as much as AMERICAN BEAUTY.

OK, another case of "different strokes" and all that.

[The Shark]

Opinion masquerading as fact on CBN once again.

Do I have to add an "in my opinion" disclaimer every time I open my mouth or type?

I never explicitly stated it was fact or opinion. Though if one has a fair share of brain cells, one can infer that it's nothing but a mix of informed opinion and my own diatribe.

Not a terribly well-informed opinion though, is it? FYEO and TLD are both mid-level entries in the series

What consensus told you this? In my humble opinion TLD is in my top 5, and FYEO is in my bottom 5.

And what the hell does my personal opinion on Bond films have to do with how well informed I am?

and both strictly mediocre in any wider, non-Bond sense and as such pretty indistinguishable from one another.

I'd say they are very different films.

The later film may well benefit from a fresher leading man and a better composer but these alone are hardly enough to push it into the 'Excellent' category.

I'm very confused. Are we talking about TLD or FYEO?

[Zorin Industries]

Barbara Broccoli is the leading light of all things James Bond.

The franchise is in good hands!

Now can we get some offical confirmation on mendes sometime soon!

Ireally don't want to have to wait till June

Why - what happens in June...?

[Quantumofsolace007]

Barbara Broccoli is the leading light of all things James Bond.

The franchise is in good hands!

Now can we get some offical confirmation on mendes sometime soon!

Ireally don't want to have to wait till June

Why - what happens in June...?

Many things happen in June.... Why you want something Specific?

[Zorin Industries]

Barbara Broccoli is the leading light of all things James Bond.

The franchise is in good hands!

Now can we get some offical confirmation on mendes sometime soon!

Ireally don't want to have to wait till June

Why - what happens in June...?

Many things happen in June.... Why you want something Specific?

No, it's just you appear to suggest something will happen on the Bond front in June?

[Quantumofsolace007]

Barbara Broccoli is the leading light of all things James Bond.

The franchise is in good hands!

Now can we get some offical confirmation on mendes sometime soon!

Ireally don't want to have to wait till June

Why - what happens in June...?

Many things happen in June.... Why you want something Specific?

No, it's just you appear to suggest something will happen on the Bond front in June?

I've heard thing...musings if you will some based on fact others speculation. Again Zorin As i've said elsewhere my real life is becoming more problematic as the days go on but C'est la vie this a bond forum not a Danny is depressed forum. My friend at MGM (remeber him yeah he does exist) is more concerned with keeping his job then finding bond stuff out from me but what I hear and again he could be saying things to cheer me up or they could be true Mgm wants Eon to put everything in place so when the MGM stuff gets settled Bond 23 can hit the ground running hence the Mendes stuff... Just to cheer up a sad bond fan or true facts u decide...

i shall remain hopefully optamistic

[Zorin Industries]

Well no-one will take your optimism away and it does you credit.

Eon will however need and require a few things to be airtight and if it takes time, then it will take time. Their legacy is predicated on a bit more than BOND 23 getting made.

[dodge]

Sam Mendes is a director worth checking out regardless of whether he gets/has the Bond gig or not.

Only if you're watching ROAD TO PERDITION. Otherwise, you might as well not bother.

Really? I thought "American Beauty" was amazing.

There are few films I despise as much as AMERICAN BEAUTY.

Are your objections artistic or moral?

[Joe Bond]

Opinion masquerading as fact on CBN once again.

Do I have to add an "in my opinion" disclaimer every time I open my mouth or type?

I never explicitly stated it was fact or opinion. Though if one has a fair share of brain cells, one can infer that it's nothing but a mix of informed opinion and my own diatribe.

Not a terribly well-informed opinion though, is it? FYEO and TLD are both mid-level entries in the series

What consensus told you this? In my humble opinion TLD is in my top 5, and FYEO is in my bottom 5.

And what the hell does my personal opinion on Bond films have to do with how well informed I am?

and both strictly mediocre in any wider, non-Bond sense and as such pretty indistinguishable from one another.

I'd say they are very different films.

The later film may well benefit from a fresher leading man and a better composer but these alone are hardly enough to push it into the 'Excellent' category.

I'm very confused. Are we talking about TLD or FYEO?

I actually agree with you on this one. I think TLD is not a mid-level Bond film and FYEO is and even if I did not I don't think someone's opinion about a certain film would make them any less informed. I really like TLD and think its an excellent adventure film and is right near the top tier of Bond films IMO.

[Harmsway]

There are few films I despise as much as AMERICAN BEAUTY.[/color]

Are your objections artistic or moral?

I don't understand what you mean by a "moral" objection, but most of my objections are ones I'd categorize under the "artistic" branch. It's often not so much what it says as how it says it (though I do have problems with some of what AMERICAN BEAUTY says, as well).

[DaveBond21]

There are few films I despise as much as AMERICAN BEAUTY.[/color]

Are your objections artistic or moral?

I don't understand what you mean by a "moral" objection, but most of my objections are ones I'd categorize under the "artistic" branch. It's often not so much what it says as how it says it (though I do have problems with some of what AMERICAN BEAUTY says, as well).

What do you think AMERICAN BEAUTY says, Harmsway? I saw it as a collection of ideas. An unusual look at the unseemly underbelly hidden beneath everyday life. But did it have a message as such?

By the way, I thought it was OK in 1999 but I've never felt compelled to watch it again.

[dodge]

There are few films I despise as much as AMERICAN BEAUTY.[/color]

Are your objections artistic or moral?

I don't understand what you mean by a "moral" objection, but most of my objections are ones I'd categorize under the "artistic" branch. It's often not so much what it says as how it says it (though I do have problems with some of what AMERICAN BEAUTY says, as well).

Well, I know a number of viewers who took strong moral exception to the older man/young girl angle. These same people, no doubt, are behind banning Lolita, the book. Just curious as to what led to the use of the strong word 'despise.'