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#31 Dr.Fell

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:40 PM

You're right, though they're what you'd call stingers, like the weird flutter-tonguing trombones when Bond is hit by grenades under the Disco Volante in TB. They're there, but no where near as prominent compared to how Arnold underlines every action and gesture. I remember John Barry said in an interview that he disliked that approach to scoring, of providing a hit for ever action or sound effect, but in most cases he was told to do so by the director.


Well we both hate David Arnold so we can agree there. B)

I didn't know Barry felt that way about some his scores, still I do find it effective. Maybe a better example would be a bit John Barry scored when Bond is slipping towards unconsciousness in THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS after he drank his Martini laced with Chloral Hydrate. This isn't the stuff that was in Serra's score, it was detacthed from the film.

I'll say only one or two things were out of place (the ladies first driving scene for example) but the rest got it perfectly. It still stands up now, and gives Goldeneye a distinctive identity, that most modern Bond films lack.


I think the score has a heavy hand in dating the film by years. Whenever I watch GOLDENEYE and TOMORROW NEVER DIES back to back it's like there is like 10 year gap in terms of production value.

What I'm saying is that the score gives it a complexity that the scene lacks, which is a good thing in my opinion. It doesn't detract from anything and meshes pretty well with the tone of the performances and direction. Romantic is the best way to describe it.


I found it more dreary then romantic and I disagree that music needed to add any complexity. I think the dialogue needed desperately to fixed as well as the music.

#32 BryanHerbert

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:43 PM

I wish the Eric Serra didn't score Golden-eye, the only music that worked with the film was in the Facility, Tank Chase, and the Cradle scene. Everything else just seemed off to me. Maybe David Arnold or someone else more experienced. Usually the music goes with the scene, and it helps bring the scene to life. If David Arnold or someone else re-scored that movie, it could of been something Amazing.

#33 The Shark

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:49 PM

Let's just agree to disagree then. B)

Still, good thing we're both on the anti-Arnold Liberation Front.

I wish the Eric Serra didn't score Golden-eye, the only music that worked with the film was in the Facility, Tank Chase, and the Cradle scene. Everything else just seemed off to me. Maybe David Arnold or someone else more experienced. Usually the music goes with the scene, and it helps bring the scene to life. If David Arnold or someone else re-scored that movie, it could of been something Amazing.


It would have probably been something lifeless and boring, interchangeable from TND, TWINE, DAD and everything else Arnold has ever scored.

Eric Serra helps give the film a definitive post-Cold War feel, and whether or not the sounds date (I don't think they do) they give it a unique character, which fits with the starkness and minimalism of the film.

#34 O.H.M.S.S.

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:55 PM

I wish the Eric Serra didn't score Golden-eye, the only music that worked with the film was in the Facility, Tank Chase, and the Cradle scene. Everything else just seemed off to me. Maybe David Arnold or someone else more experienced. Usually the music goes with the scene, and it helps bring the scene to life. If David Arnold or someone else re-scored that movie, it could of been something Amazing.


Eric Serra unexperienced?? While David Arnold scores Michael Bay nonsense like Independence Day (or even worse: 2 Fast 2 Furious), Eric Serra scores great French classics like Le grand bleu, Léon, Nikita, ... by Luc Besson. Eric Serra is much more talented then Arnold (same goes for Michel Legrand being a lot more talented then Arnold).

Edited by O.H.M.S.S., 06 January 2010 - 07:04 PM.


#35 Conlazmoodalbrocra

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 06:59 PM

Let's just agree to disagree then. :tdown:

Still, good thing we're both on the anti-Arnold Liberation Front.

I wish the Eric Serra didn't score Golden-eye, the only music that worked with the film was in the Facility, Tank Chase, and the Cradle scene. Everything else just seemed off to me. Maybe David Arnold or someone else more experienced. Usually the music goes with the scene, and it helps bring the scene to life. If David Arnold or someone else re-scored that movie, it could of been something Amazing.


It would have probably been something lifeless and boring, interchangeable from TND, TWINE, DAD and everything else Arnold has ever scored.

Eric Serra helps give the film a definitive post-Cold War feel, and whether or not the sounds date (I don't think they do) they give it a unique character, which fits with the starkness and minimalism of the film.


Glad to see Eric Serra getting the recognition he deserves. B)

#36 St. John Smythe

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 07:42 PM

I started a thread about Goldeneye/Eric Serra:

Goldeneye/Eric Serra thread

since this LTK discussion has turned into a hearty debate about his merits as a composer. Or lack thereof.

#37 sthgilyadgnivileht

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Posted 06 January 2010 - 08:07 PM

I don't think the LTK score sounds anything like Barry or Arnold. I think its unique. I'm no real fan of the LTK score, but time has been kind to it and parts of the score I now actually like. The gunbarrel is indeed excellent. Some of the (IMO) abysmal Arnold scores that followed have strengthened LTK.
The problem was when LTK was released it had to follow the score for TLD, which was a Barry masterpiece and textbook of how to score an action film IMO. Your kind of on a downhill battle as a composer before you begin to write your first note.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 08:24 PM

I still would like to have an expanded album of Kamen´s score in order to really appreciate it.


I have one, and its pretty good B)

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:42 AM

I would like an expanded version of LTK as well. Shame it's owned by MCA (or any different company), which caused it to be omitted from the 2003 reissue series (wouldn't have been as noticeable if they didn't do Goldeneye, but anyway...). Then, maybe, of course maybe, we would have gotten an expanded edition. I would like mine to have the four songs first, followed by the complete score in film order, although of course for those "contract reasons" they would have just dumped the rest of it at the end.