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But also here the John Barry song that never was!


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#1 Gustav Graves

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:39 PM

Truly, truly remarkable song. This...this.....captures everything what Bond is for me. I'm so glad John Barry joined the production of DSB's 'The Performance'. This song makes me cry B) ...out of joy :tdown: :



The song has a very Bondian feel as well, but compared to 'No Good About Goodbye' this one is a tad bit more romantic and uplifting. It's still a nice slow song, but it reminds me a lot of 'We Have All The Time In The World'. Again a marvellous entry on DSB's new album and a worthy potential Bond theme.

#2 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 05:52 PM

It's very close to "We Have All the Time in the World"; the chord progressions and structure are nearly the same. John Barry is copying himself! B)

#3 Gustav Graves

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 05:57 PM

It's very close to "We Have All the Time in the World"; the chord progressions and structure are nearly the same. John Barry is copying himself! B)


Hmm, I tend to disagree. I think...copying himself is not true. My honest opinion...'Our Time Is Now' sounds way more brassy compared to the jazz song 'WHATTITW'. Also hear the bridge of 'Our Time Is Now'....I really like the horns.

And what if it....sounds a bit similar to past themes? I don't mind :tdown:.

#4 coco1997

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 06:11 PM

It's very close to "We Have All the Time in the World"; the chord progressions and structure are nearly the same. John Barry is copying himself! B)


Is the " :tdown: " really necessary?

Edited by coco1997, 12 November 2009 - 06:12 PM.


#5 The Ghost Who Walks

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 08:52 PM

It's very close to "We Have All the Time in the World"; the chord progressions and structure are nearly the same. John Barry is copying himself! B)


AC/DC has made a career of copying themselves. They're still a great band. :tdown:

#6 Gustav Graves

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:10 PM

And here are the lyrics from this song, also by Don Black:

1st Verse:
Our time is now
Not one day soon
Your eyes have glied (?), look how bright the stars
And how close the moon

2nd Verse:
Our time is now
And ever more
It took a while, but a love like ours
Was worth way to look for

Chorus:
Love has no season
There are no rules
Those who stop dreaming, are fools

So come with me
Because our time.....is now

Bridge:
"Trumpet solo"

Chorus:
Love has no season
There are nu rules
Those who stop dreaming, are fools

So come with me
Because our time.....is now
Our time is now
Our time is now
Our time is nowww



#7 MattofSteel

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:14 PM

Certainly a WHATTITW vibe going on. But a lovely song nonetheless.

#8 JimmyBond

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:13 PM

Perhaps the title of this thread is a bit misleading? Surely it's a John Barry song that was, since it did get released.

#9 DaveBond21

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:27 PM

Love the trumpet solo.

Oh God, am I getting old???!!!!

B)

#10 JimmyBond

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:31 PM

Just having a bit of fun with my previous thread, I think I know what you intended as the title GG B)

I can't really see this song as a Bond song, it just doesnt have that certain hook that most of the songs do.

#11 Gustav Graves

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:11 AM

Perhaps it's...too romantic for your taste. But don't forget that romantic stuff like this is always better at picking up an Oscar nomination. And I miss a romantic Bond song like 'For Your Eyes Only'. The trumpet solo really enhances the romantic feeling of the song. So why not use 'Our Time Is Now' as a secondary song?

Edited by Gustav Graves, 13 November 2009 - 01:14 AM.


#12 Harmsway

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:55 AM

It's very close to "We Have All the Time in the World"; the chord progressions and structure are nearly the same. John Barry is copying himself! B)

He's echoing himself rather than copying himself, I'd say. It is a bit like "We Have All the Time in the World," but that's not a bad thing, and when it comes to the chorus, it does differentiate itself from the previous song. I'm a fan. It's nice to hear Bassey and Barry together again (that said, neither the Barry or Arnold songs are among my favorites from Bassey's very fine new album).

#13 Henry-Jones-Sr

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 04:21 PM

It isn't similar to We Have All The Time In The World, because this new song is tuneless - a rare event for the great John Barry. I'm listening to it right now and I still don't know what it goes like.

Harrumph!

#14 Gustav Graves

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 07:14 PM

Tuneless?

Is there actually SOMEONE who thinks Bassey's new album 'The Performance' is actually damn good? Her album got rave reviews so far: 4 or 5 stars in every newspaper...

#15 DamnCoffee

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 07:21 PM

This song is dreadful. :/

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 09:01 PM

Unbelievable.

I don't get the hate this song is receiving. It's considerably better than "FYEO," "TND" and "DAD."

Imagine this as "TMWTGG" written for today. If "OHMSS" was ever remade and this song was used during the Bond and Tracy falling-in-love montage, no one would be criticizing this song.

#17 Gustav Graves

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 09:28 PM

Dear coco1997? It's evident that certain Bond 'fans' are betraying some of the past Bond films that have been produced B)

Words like 'dreadful' are no justice for the great John Barry. Clearly they don't even KNOW anything about Barry's past portfolio, with and without Bond.

Sad...

Edited by Gustav Graves, 15 November 2009 - 11:55 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2009 - 09:32 PM

Dear coco1997? It's evident that certain Bond 'fans' are betraying some of the past Bond films that have been produced.

Words like 'dreadful' are no justice for the great John Barry. Clearly they don't even KNOW anything about Barry's past portfolio, with and without Bond.

Sad... B)


Well I don't think it's fair to discount the legitimacy of someone's Bond fan title just because they don't like this song, but I agree with everything else you said. :tdown:

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 09:51 PM

I don't get the hate this song is receiving. It's considerably better than "FYEO," "TND" and "DAD."


I happen to like two of those songs B)







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Posted 15 November 2009 - 10:02 PM

I don't get the hate this song is receiving. It's considerably better than "FYEO," "TND" and "DAD."


I happen to like two of those songs


So do I. "For Your Eyes Only" ranks among my absolute favorite Bond title songs.

Also, to discredit the legitimacy of one's opinion just because they don't like the song is absolutely ridiculous. B)

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Posted 15 November 2009 - 11:58 PM

Also, to discredit the legitimacy of one's opinion just because they don't like the song is absolutely ridiculous. B)


Nah, I said that with a smiley dude :tdown:. You're twisting my words. I have great respect for EVERY Bond fan, but at least I try to give the best arguments available to support my case.

Pity...you feel offended by those arguments, but that's because you make these arguments a bit personal...and they are not.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 12:27 AM

Is there actually SOMEONE who thinks Bassey's new album 'The Performance' is actually damn good?

::raises hand::

That said, I think "No Good About Goodbye" and "Our Time is Now" are two of the less memorable tracks on the album.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 01:10 AM

Also, to discredit the legitimacy of one's opinion just because they don't like the song is absolutely ridiculous. B)


Nah, I said that with a smiley dude :tdown:. You're twisting my words. I have great respect for EVERY Bond fan, but at least I try to give the best arguments available to support my case.

Pity...you feel offended by those arguments, but that's because you make these arguments a bit personal...and they are not.



:tdown:

Not the case at all. I'm not twisting the words at all (especially since there was no smiley when I read the post), and I'm also not the least bit offended, just pointing out a flaw in the original argument, because I do find it to be ridiculous to argue that people are somehow "betraying" the past films when they say that they don't like the new Shirley Bassey song.

#24 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 01:24 AM

I don't get why Barry Black and Bassey get this magical treatment that tom jones, Paul Mcartney, George martin, and Nancy Sinitra don't get.


because i don't like these boots are made for walking does that make me less of a bond fan? No of course not as people only care about Mrs Sinatra's bond outing. Outside of that no one cares.


If Bassey sang the phone book Credited the lyrics to Don Black and had Bassey playing Eminor on the piano over and over again. Some would scream "It's got to be bond 23's theme it's so bondian"

Rational bond fans would laugh and say "She's reading the phone book of Eminor it's bland and forgetable"



I just don't get the Bassey Facination sigh... but i guess most don't get what i see in Mrs Duff or in prog rock for bond theme.

#25 tdalton

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 01:32 AM

I don't get why Barry Black and Bassey get this magical treatment that tom jones, Paul Mcartney, George martin, and Nancy Sinitra don't get.


because i don't like these boots are made for walking does that make me less of a bond fan? No of course not as people only care about Mrs Sinatra's bond outing. Outside of that no one cares.


If Bassey sang the phone book Credited the lyrics to Don Black and had Bassey playing Eminor on the piano over and over again. Some would scream "It's got to be bond 23's theme it's so bondian"

Rational bond fans would laugh and say "She's reading the phone book of Eminor it's bland and forgetable"


Excellent post. B)


I just don't get the Bassey Facination sigh... but i guess most don't get what i see in Mrs Duff or in prog rock for bond theme.


I will say this for Ms. Duff, I do think that she has the potential to be a rather talented actress, and I could see her having a good, long career in TV ahead of her. I just don't see her as a Bond girl. Maybe down the road, if she reaches the potential that she looks to have at this point in her career, I would look at revising that opinion.

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Posted 16 November 2009 - 01:39 AM

Not the case at all. I'm not twisting the words at all (especially since there was no smiley when I read the post), and I'm also not the least bit offended, just pointing out a flaw in the original argument, because I do find it to be ridiculous to argue that people are somehow "betraying" the past films when they say that they don't like the new Shirley Bassey song.


Well, I didn't mean it that way ok B)? I sometimes use harsh arguments. But try to read between the brackets a bit. And well, I am Dutch. I shall tone down a bit ok :tdown:?

I don't get why Barry Black and Bassey get this magical treatment that tom jones, Paul Mcartney, George martin, and Nancy Sinitra don't get.


because i don't like these boots are made for walking does that make me less of a bond fan? No of course not as people only care about Mrs Sinatra's bond outing. Outside of that no one cares.


If Bassey sang the phone book Credited the lyrics to Don Black and had Bassey playing Eminor on the piano over and over again. Some would scream "It's got to be bond 23's theme it's so bondian"

Rational bond fans would laugh and say "She's reading the phone book of Eminor it's bland and forgetable"



I just don't get the Bassey Facination sigh... but i guess most don't get what i see in Mrs Duff or in prog rock for bond theme.



I'm a big music lover. I think Dusty Springfield's entry 'The Look Of Love', which was the primary theme to 'Casino Royale', 1967 edition, is greatly overlooked.

And well, these topics are not exisiting out of the blue. Dame Shirley Bassey is really back after 20 years. She deserves some credit, doesn't she?

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 01:35 PM

Dutch or otherwise, Gustav Graves has said some very silly things.

John Barry sat down a wrote a tune. Don Black wrote some words. Shirley Bassey sang it. It's just a song. It's not even a Bond song! Some of us don't like like it very much. Big deal! The song isn't oxygen, it's not like we're going to drop dead if we don't like it. Blimey!

While we're on the subject of what a Bond fan should or shouldn't like, I feel this is a good time to point out that I personally can't stand Shirley Bassey and her 'singing'. I think she's rubbish. I'm not knocking you guys like for liking her - it is, you know, a free world after all - but I hate the way she shouts instead of sings, and I honestly think that she ruined Goldfinger. It's an amazing song, but it would have been perfect with a slinkier vocal.

Am I less of a Bond fan? No. Other Bond fans hate the things I love, and that's fine. But I take exception to being told that I am betraying the Bond legacy by not liking a song which is not now and never will have anything remotely to do with the James Bond films.

I could argue that simply by being Dutch, Gustav Graves is not a real Bond fan. You must be BRITISH to be a 'real' Bond fan. Stupid, isn't it?

#28 Gustav Graves

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 07:52 PM

Also, to discredit the legitimacy of one's opinion just because they don't like the song is absolutely ridiculous. B)


Nah, I said that with a smiley dude :tdown:. You're twisting my words. I have great respect for EVERY Bond fan, but at least I try to give the best arguments available to support my case.

Pity...you feel offended by those arguments, but that's because you make these arguments a bit personal...and they are not.



I'm on repeat here, but it seems necessary. It makes me angry that you think Bond fans who think otherwise are no worthy Bond fans at all. It sickens me really.

I know very well that this is a discussion forum. In that's the reasons you'll find different opinions everywhere on this forum. Especially in the past few hot discussion topics about music.

I'm not trying to be a narcist here, convincing everyone here to go with my opinions. But I have EVERY right to give my own set of arguments. And if I do that, READ them carefully and try not to twist them making me look like the villain next door.

About Shirley Bassey. That you.....hate her....and her 'belting', that's your opinion as well. But I have the feeling you're saying it, because you're a bit angry towards me. Correct me if I'm wrong...

#29 tdalton

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 07:53 PM

Am I less of a Bond fan? No. Other Bond fans hate the things I love, and that's fine. But I take exception to being told that I am betraying the Bond legacy by not liking a song which is not now and never will have anything remotely to do with the James Bond films.


Well said. B)

#30 Gustav Graves

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Posted 19 November 2009 - 08:04 PM

Well said? He's...twisting my words. I don't like that B). It's not my intention to write off all Bond fans that don't have the same opinion I have. Sorry.

Edited by Gustav Graves, 19 November 2009 - 08:22 PM.