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[Germanlady]

You need to man up Fraulein.

Really? Well, thanks for the tip. Won´t change my opinion though...

[MkB]

This thread is fuel for my old theory: generally speaking, a "big", powerful build appeals more to men, when women seem more likely to admire a man with an athlete's build (i.e. leaner and useful musles, not just meant to be big).

For what my opinion is worth, I too prefer the QoS physique. And as far as "believability" is concerned, c'mon! First, I found Craig more than believable as Bond with his QoS build, and second, ey, it's a Bond film!!! This is meant as pure fun and escapism, anyway!

[jaguar007]

I saw nothing wrong with Brosnan's physique . . . at least in his first three films. Only in DAD could I tell that he was starting to gain weight. And he was either 48 or 49 years old at the time.

I always saw Brosnan as too skinny/scrawny to be a lethal agent. Dalton was pretty skinny as well, but he had wider shoulders than Brosnan so he appeared a bit more intimidating.

[The Shark]

I saw nothing wrong with Brosnan's physique . . . at least in his first three films. Only in DAD could I tell that he was starting to gain weight. And he was either 48 or 49 years old at the time.

I always saw Brosnan as too skinny/scrawny to be a lethal agent. Dalton was pretty skinny as well, but he had wider shoulders than Brosnan so he appeared a bit more intimidating.

I always thought Dalton was and still is the bulkiest Bond, and probably the heaviest too, considering his height.

[jaguar007]

I always thought Dalton was and still is the bulkiest Bond, and probably the heaviest too, considering his height.

It was the 80s baggy clothes. If you rewatch the love scene with Dalton and Talisa Soto (when he has his shirt off) you will see that he is actually pretty skinny. Both Moore and Connery are quite a bit bulkier (and Connery being about the same height, also heavier).

[Tybre]

I always thought Dalton was and still is the bulkiest Bond, and probably the heaviest too, considering his height.

It was the 80s baggy clothes. If you rewatch the love scene with Dalton and Talisa Soto (when he has his shirt off) you will see that he is actually pretty skinny. Both Moore and Connery are quite a bit bulkier (and Connery being about the same height, also heavier).

Dalton was pretty well toned though. He was muscular, just not very.

[OmarB]

I just dropped in to say that this gets my vote for thread of the year for it's sheer hilarity.

[Germanlady]

I just dropped in to say that this gets my vote for thread of the year for it's sheer hilarity.

Its dry times - people need something to do. Believe me, it will get worse...

[Leon]

I do think DC looked more imposing in Casino Royale, though the neck and shoulders were a bit too swollen. I did think he looked a bit too perfectly toned in Quantum, Bond should never be that toned, he eats and drinks for England for a start - though that should not show realistically, there needs to be some evidence, it's what makes Bond different to the other pretty boy action heros.

[Tybre]

I just dropped in to say that this gets my vote for thread of the year for it's sheer hilarity.

Its dry times - people need something to do. Believe me, it will get worse...

Just as long as they don't start pumping one another for information

[The Shark]

I just dropped in to say that this gets my vote for thread of the year for it's sheer hilarity.

Its dry times - people need something to do. Believe me, it will get worse...

Just as long as they don't start pumping one another for information

No, me and Germanlady are too busy at it at already. She's like a rabid Alsatian in bed, breath taking.

I do think DC looked more imposing in Casino Royale, though the neck and shoulders were a bit too swollen. I did think he looked a bit too perfectly toned in Quantum, Bond should never be that toned, he eats and drinks for England for a start - though that should not show realistically, there needs to be some evidence, it's what makes Bond different to the other pretty boy action heros.

That's my point. The larger, less toned (and slightly no neck) physique made more sense for an ex-Special Forces agent, who drinks, smokes and eats, yet still can be physically strong in a fight, or sprinting.
However in QOS, his body looks far too pretty and unconvincing - much like the previous Hollywood action movie physiques from the last couple of years, where's in CR, it somehow looked more believable and less poser-like.
Almost as if the QOS Bond took up some celebrity weight-loss diet plan, did some light weight lifting, and stepped into a tux.

Not Bond.

[JimmyBond]

Not Bond.

Don't go confusing fact with opinion now.

[The Shark]

I never did. Do I have to prefix everything with "IMO" now, or can you just infer from the text.

[JimmyBond]

You presented the statement as a fact. I'm sorry, but sometimes it's hard to infer meaning from text.

[Odd Jobbies]

Handbags at dawn

[double o ego]

People will complain about anything.

Craig needs to look different from the typical action hero pretty boy?? Um, where were you in 2005? Hell where are you now? There are many people who still think Craig is "ugly" by conventional Bond standards.

As for Craig's body looking perfect, you people need to get your head out of your backsides. Sure, Craig lost weight for QoS ut it works and is practical to what he does. This is Bond and lets not forget this isn't the super unhealthy literary Bond neither. Throughout the nearly 50 years, we've seen Bond do some pretty OTT and ridiculous stuff that based on appearance he by no means should have been ale to do. All those super stunts and high octane stuff that we've seen him do where it's prettyclear to the audience that he's in no where near in shape to do those things but he does it, we buy it and we love it regardless.

So, why, should it be a problem for Craig to at least make the effort to actually look like he can do all those things. Also, I appreciate that Craig's body was covered with a few scars to show that his body isn't perfect, he does take a beating and for him to do all the stuff he does, he at least has to have a body that shows it's been put through the rigours.
Furthermore, getting a body like craig's in QoS isn't that hard, hell you can give up 30mins to 1 hour a day to look even better so what's the fuss? I'm actually talking from experience mind you and that's why I'm interjecting here to call some of you out and say you're chatting complete bollocks. I don't mean to rant but to simply voice my opinion and experiences on the matter. Craig's body was perfectly fine in both films and not once did he look scrawny, wimpish or even hulk-like as some have suggested.

[jaguar007]

double 0 ego,
Great post. You make excellent points.

[danslittlefinger]

http://therealdeal.c...ra-hugh-jackman

Maybe the residents' gym which was the 'selling' point for Craig on this rental pad will see him 'beef' up for Bond 23 or keep the same shape who knows?

[Syndicate]

I just dropped in to say that this gets my vote for thread of the year for it's sheer hilarity.

Its dry times - people need something to do. Believe me, it will get worse...

That is true, it's time to end this topic, before someone start saying,"why did you say that", or it start to go off topic a little.