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[mister-white]

Just wondering, have they confirmed yet if Daniel Kleinman is coming back or not? I wanna say he will be back, simply cause the move to fire him from QoS was purely a Forster move.

But I just wanna do some thinking what if Kleinman, feeling betrayed by EON for letting Forster fire him and not putting their foot down on the issue and forcing Forster to accept Kleinman (which they should have done), who could possibly replace him, cause I think those a pretty big shoes to fill. Who would you suggest could do a title design for the next Bond? Would it be a single person like Kleinman or a group like MK12?

My pick would have to be Andrew Kramer, who designed the titles for the new Star Trek. But I would obviously prefer Kleinman to return.

[Mister Asterix]

Expect to hear who the director is before you hear who’s doing the titles.

And Kleinman was not fired. He was just not hired for Quantum of Solace. If he feels betrayed then let the bitter old coot stew in his bitterness. But I doubt DK was anything more than disappointed that he didn’t do Quantum of Solace. The man is a professional. I’m sure his life went on.

[Bucky]

maybe the team that did the titles for the tv show mad men. or danny yount who did the titles for kiss kiss bang bang (and also did the titles for the invasion)

[DominicGreene]

How about the people did did the "Catch me If You Can" titles?

[JimmyBond]

How about the people did did the "Catch me If You Can" titles?

I would love to see a title sequence done in that style.

[DaveBond21]

It's a good question. I liked Daniel Kleinman's work on the Goldeneye and Casino Royale titles. I also enjoyed MK12's work on QOS, so I'd be happy with either of them coming back for Bond 23.

[Tybre]

I didn't mind Mk 12. Biggest issue was:

The opening credits sequence was created by MK12; Having worked on Forster's Stranger than Fiction and The Kite Runner, MK12 spontaneously began developing the sequence early on in production, and had a good idea of its appearance which meant it did not have to be redone when the title singer was changed.

And those bloody title cards -_-'

[Quantumofsolace007]

According to IMDB Daniel Klienman will be indeed retyrning for owrk on bond 23


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459110/


Possibly true

[Zorin Industries]

How about the people did did the "Catch me If You Can" titles?

I would love to see a title sequence done in that style.

But that style has nothing to do with the tone and timbre of Bond. And the ROYALE titles were sort of as near as you would get to that. And they were damn stunning in my book.

According to IMDB Daniel Klienman will be indeed retyrning for owrk on bond 23


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459110/


Possibly true

Then it must be true....(!)

As I have said and tried to say countless times - IMDB is a barometer of absolutely nothing. They do not care that they get the facts right. I know - I tried to change my CV (and not one I had anything to do with posting) as I had gained a few screen credits that weren't mine. And I don't think being accurate was quite on their agenda.

[Quantumofsolace007]

How about the people did did the "Catch me If You Can" titles?

I would love to see a title sequence done in that style.

But that style has nothing to do with the tone and timbre of Bond. And the ROYALE titles were sort of as near as you would get to that. And they were damn stunning in my book.

According to IMDB Daniel Klienman will be indeed retyrning for owrk on bond 23


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459110/


Possibly true

Then it must be true....(!)

As I have said and tried to say countless times - IMDB is a barometer of absolutely nothing. They do not care that they get the facts right. I know - I tried to change my CV (and not one I had anything to do with posting) as I had gained a few screen credits that weren't mine. And I don't think being accurate was quite on their agenda.

I did put Possibly true.


So wait Zorin does this mean you aren't one of Hilary Duff's backup dancer/singers

[Zorin Industries]

How about the people did did the "Catch me If You Can" titles?

I would love to see a title sequence done in that style.

But that style has nothing to do with the tone and timbre of Bond. And the ROYALE titles were sort of as near as you would get to that. And they were damn stunning in my book.

According to IMDB Daniel Klienman will be indeed retyrning for owrk on bond 23


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459110/


Possibly true

Then it must be true....(!)

As I have said and tried to say countless times - IMDB is a barometer of absolutely nothing. They do not care that they get the facts right. I know - I tried to change my CV (and not one I had anything to do with posting) as I had gained a few screen credits that weren't mine. And I don't think being accurate was quite on their agenda.

I did put Possibly true.


So wait Zorin does this mean you aren't one of Hilary Duff's backup dancer/singers

Absolutely. I was not only one of the backing dancers... I was ALL of them. We toured the provinces and young offenders units with our brilliantly titled show, UP THE DUFF!! We'd bring down the house thrice-nightly with the crowd-storming closing number, "I Can See Its Head!".

[mister-white]

Well, if you look at Kleinman's imdb profile, they also have him down as the title designer for QoS, which obviously he didn't do. But I have no doubts (absolutely none) that Kleinman will be back for Bond 23. I was just asking who could possibly do it if he decides for whatever reason not to.

[sharpshooter]

MK12 were a serviceable stand in. I liked their title cards and gun barrel. Their title sequence was quite enjoyable, but nothing really inspired.

I'd much prefer Daniel Kleinman return for Bond 23.

[Aris007]

Kleinman is the man! He has to return for Bond 23! I must say I wasn't impressed by MK12 in Quantum Of Solace. I prefer by far Kleinman.

[double o ego]

The only thing MK12 impressed me with was the gunbarrel and I do think that the dirt, grainy look of the title sequence complemented the AWTD track but that's it. Kleinman needs to come back and seeing the marvelous effort he delivered for CR, I'm very interested in what he'll do next.

[DamnCoffee]

MK12 were a serviceable stand in. I liked their title cards and gun barrel. Their title sequence was quite enjoyable, but nothing really inspired.

I'd much prefer Daniel Kleinman return for Bond 23.

Couldn't of put it better myself, Sharpshooter!

I for one, really enjoyed the titles sequence though. Very retro.

[tdalton]

I'd prefer either to have MK12 return or to go off in a completely new direction. Kleinman's efforts were inconsistent, ranging from OK (GOLDENEYE) to plain awful (TND), to somewhere in the middle (DAD, CR). I'm ready to see what someone else can do with the sequence rather than going back and having, more or less, the same old thing done all over again.

[jrcjohnny99]

I'd prefer either to have MK12 return or to go off in a completely new direction. Kleinman's efforts were inconsistent, ranging from OK (GOLDENEYE) to plain awful (TND), to somewhere in the middle (DAD, CR). I'm ready to see what someone else can do with the sequence rather than going back and having, more or less, the same old thing done all over again.

I agree on this; Klienmann is no Binder.
I really liked MK12's and would be more than happy to see them return.

[Tybre]

I'd prefer either to have MK12 return or to go off in a completely new direction. Kleinman's efforts were inconsistent, ranging from OK (GOLDENEYE) to plain awful (TND), to somewhere in the middle (DAD, CR). I'm ready to see what someone else can do with the sequence rather than going back and having, more or less, the same old thing done all over again.

I agree on this; Klienmann is no Binder.
I really liked MK12's and would be more than happy to see them return.

It's better than some of Binder's last works.

Anyway I wouldn't mind Mk12 returning, so long as they do something a little better with the titles than the grainy desert thing they apparently whipped together without any notion as to what the music would be. Oh sure, it works, and it's nice, but it could be drastically superior. Higher up on my list though is get rid of those bloody title cards. I don't mind the captions telling me where we are, like in GoldenEye. I prefer it without them, but when they're unobtrusive like that I really don't mind. Anyway I doubt if Mk12 will return. They do a lot of work for Forster; in fact I'm only aware of them doing work for Forster. Seems to me Forster just brought them along because he likes them. Nothing wrong with that, mind.

[tdalton]

I agree that MK12 probably won't return, as they were more of a package deal with Forster, but I thought that their work on the titles (and the location cards, which I actually liked) were far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. Their gunbarrel sequence was also, IMO, one of the best in the franchise.

[JimmyBond]

I agree that MK12 probably won't return, as they were more of a package deal with Forster, but I thought that their work on the titles (and the location cards, which I actually liked) were far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. Their gunbarrel sequence was also, IMO, one of the best in the franchise.

I can't say I agree with you on the title sequence being superior to Klienman's efforts. I've more or less enjoyed all the title sequences Kleinman has done, with perhaps TWINE being the weak link, and CR being the stand out. I think MK12 would have probably done a better job had they actually created the titles based on the song, and yes, they did create the titles before they knew what the song would be. It's revealed in one of their interviews.

[singleentendre]

I really hope Kleinman returns. I love all of his openings except for TND. TWINE, GE, DAD and CR are all exceptionally brilliant and amazing. Personally I think Kleinman's got a better batting average than Binder when it comes to intros.

[tdalton]

I agree that MK12 probably won't return, as they were more of a package deal with Forster, but I thought that their work on the titles (and the location cards, which I actually liked) were far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. Their gunbarrel sequence was also, IMO, one of the best in the franchise.

I can't say I agree with you on the title sequence being superior to Klienman's efforts. I've more or less enjoyed all the title sequences Kleinman has done, with perhaps TWINE being the weak link, and CR being the stand out. I think MK12 would have probably done a better job had they actually created the titles based on the song, and yes, they did create the titles before they knew what the song would be. It's revealed in one of their interviews.

Even if they did create the sequence before hearing the song, it's still, IMO, far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. I find the titles for CASINO ROYALE to be quite mediocre and vastly overrated, and the other four title sequences range from subpar (GE) to truly awful (TND, TWINE, DAD).

[jrcjohnny99]

I agree that MK12 probably won't return, as they were more of a package deal with Forster, but I thought that their work on the titles (and the location cards, which I actually liked) were far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. Their gunbarrel sequence was also, IMO, one of the best in the franchise.

I can't say I agree with you on the title sequence being superior to Klienman's efforts. I've more or less enjoyed all the title sequences Kleinman has done, with perhaps TWINE being the weak link, and CR being the stand out. I think MK12 would have probably done a better job had they actually created the titles based on the song, and yes, they did create the titles before they knew what the song would be. It's revealed in one of their interviews.

Even if they did create the sequence before hearing the song, it's still, IMO, far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. I find the titles for CASINO ROYALE to be quite mediocre and vastly overrated, and the other four title sequences range from subpar (GE) to truly awful (TND, TWINE, DAD).

I have to agree with this (generally); I was not impressed with Kleinman's work..tho I actually think TND is the best of the Brosnans..

[DamnCoffee]

Casino Royale, by far, is Kleinmans best work.

I think everyones work is improving with the new direction the franchise is going.

Arnold, Dench, Michael & Barbara.

I can't help thinking how cool a Kleiman created Quantum of Solace title sequence would look like.

[Aris007]

Casino Royale, by far, is Kleinmans best work.

Seconded!

The silhouettes and then Craig's face appears! Stunning! Really nicely done!

[JimmyBond]

Even if they did create the sequence before hearing the song, it's still, IMO, far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. I find the titles for CASINO ROYALE to be quite mediocre and vastly overrated, and the other four title sequences range from subpar (GE) to truly awful (TND, TWINE, DAD).

See I always saw it the other way around. I enjoyed Kleinman's work more with each new movie. I like GE but it's all rather medicore in my opinion (the one point I imagine we both agree on), I really enjoy TND, TWINE I could take it or leave it, the opening of it is actually really well done, but then it gets into an oily mess. I always loved the DAD one because of the continuation of the storyline through the titles, and felt the images really lifted up what is an otherwise average song.

Now CR. This is unlike anything Kleinman has done before. It was a bold move getting rid of the dancing nudes, instead he gives us beautiful card motif with Bond duking it out with other enemies. That shot of Vesper as the Queen of diamonds always sends chills down my spine, as does the "007" card dissolving into the computer screen with "Double-o Status confirmed" and at the same time we see that screen it's when Cornell's "Are you ready to die" lyric is sung. That was no coincidence on Kleinman's part, he creates his images in tune with the song, and I love that.

Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the titles for Quantum of Solace, but they didnt do anything. Again I feel it was a horrible misstep to have them created before the song was even recorded.

[DaveBond21]

That shot of Vesper as the Queen of diamonds always sends chills down my spine, as does the "007" card dissolving into the computer screen with "Double-o Status confirmed" and at the same time we see that screen it's when Cornell's "Are you ready to die" lyric is sung. That was no coincidence on Kleinman's part, he creates his images in tune with the song, and I love that.

I wholeheartedly agree, JimmyBond, that always sends a shiver down my spine too.

However, I really liked MK12's titles sequence for QOS. I enjoyed Bond being involved in it again, the girls, the "party scene" and the bullet at the end. I'm also a fan of the song, Another Way to Die.

[tdalton]

Even if they did create the sequence before hearing the song, it's still, IMO, far superior to anything that Kleinman did in his five films. I find the titles for CASINO ROYALE to be quite mediocre and vastly overrated, and the other four title sequences range from subpar (GE) to truly awful (TND, TWINE, DAD).

See I always saw it the other way around. I enjoyed Kleinman's work more with each new movie. I like GE but it's all rather medicore in my opinion (the one point I imagine we both agree on), I really enjoy TND, TWINE I could take it or leave it, the opening of it is actually really well done, but then it gets into an oily mess. I always loved the DAD one because of the continuation of the storyline through the titles, and felt the images really lifted up what is an otherwise average song.

Now CR. This is unlike anything Kleinman has done before. It was a bold move getting rid of the dancing nudes, instead he gives us beautiful card motif with Bond duking it out with other enemies. That shot of Vesper as the Queen of diamonds always sends chills down my spine, as does the "007" card dissolving into the computer screen with "Double-o Status confirmed" and at the same time we see that screen it's when Cornell's "Are you ready to die" lyric is sung. That was no coincidence on Kleinman's part, he creates his images in tune with the song, and I love that.

Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the titles for Quantum of Solace, but they didnt do anything. Again I feel it was a horrible misstep to have them created before the song was even recorded.

As for GOLDENEYE, I actually think that it was Kleinman's best of the five films that he did the titles for. Stacked up against those of the rest of the series, it's not at all the best (that would probably be reserved for some of the earlier entries), but it's miles better than his other four title sequences (TND in particular, which I found to be the worst). The CR titles didn't really do much for me, either. I do agree with you on the opening of the TWINE credits. Very well done, and it's a shame that the rest of the sequence couldn't have been as inspired.

What I really credit MK12 for doing was taking a truly awful song (AWTD is, for me, easily the worst title song in the franchise, although DAD gives it some competition) and makes it somewhat tolerable by giving us something really cool to look at. Visually, I think it's one of the better titles sequences, but as a package deal with the song, it's somewhere towards the middle of the pack.

[michallo_w]

I wouldn't mind if MK12 returns for Bond 23. I love QoS title sequence. But I'm curious how Daniel Kleinman would make B23 titles after 4 (5?) years gap.