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[Pierce - Daniel]

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Michael G. Wilson: No News On 'Bond 23'

James Bond producer briefly discusses the 23rd 007 film at the Bradford International Film Festival

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[Quantumofsolace007]

now i'm upset.


Axctually hang on there is something to point out here What is MGW gonna say "well i have treatment in back pockett let me read it to you"


I'm not sure what to make of this but i have to have faith that some day James bond WILL return.

[Simon]

But presumeably there now will be...

Otherwise, what is Wilson doing in the UK right now? Or is that speculation beyond the realm.

[Mr_Wint]

Very interesting interview. Maybe we shouldn't blame Wilson so much

he [Wilson] expressed frustration that the tight deadlines have compromised Eon's influence over the title song. He said that in the past, the composer of the song worked in consultation with the filmmaking team. In recent years, however, Eon had little or no say over the song, which has been delivered so late in the process that the producers have to accept whatever is delivered. (Although Wilson did not mention any specific song titles, one would not be going out on a limb to assume it includes the dreadful Another Way to Die from Quantum Of Solace.)

One in particular hit the mark when someone asked Wilson why he allowed the action sequences in Quantum to be edited with so many fast cuts that it robbed the scenes of any suspense. Wilson acknowledged that they were attempting to please modern audiences who are used to that style of editing but did not outwardly endorse the style. He said that Eon always experiments with different filmmaking styles that the director may favor - and that by the time the first edit is done, there is precious little time to make radical changes.

[Vauxhall]

Hardly surprising news. I think we'll be much closer to the end of the year before information of any real substance emerges.

[Qwerty]

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Michael G. Wilson: No News On 'Bond 23'

James Bond producer briefly discusses the 23rd 007 film at the Bradford International Film Festival

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Very interesting interview. Maybe we shouldn't blame Wilson so much

he [Wilson] expressed frustration that the tight deadlines have compromised Eon's influence over the title song. He said that in the past, the composer of the song worked in consultation with the filmmaking team. In recent years, however, Eon had little or no say over the song, which has been delivered so late in the process that the producers have to accept whatever is delivered. (Although Wilson did not mention any specific song titles, one would not be going out on a limb to assume it includes the dreadful Another Way to Die from Quantum Of Solace.)

Producers shouldn't meddle with the title song- trust the film's composer. In the past we got Thunderball instead of Kiss Kiss Bang Band, and Tomorrow Never Dies instead of Surrender: bland songs to sell the name of the film more than anything else.

[double o ego]

Thunderball is NOT bland. KKBB is great though and to be honest, I like them both equally but TB is in no way bland. Also, I wish that Bond theme songs would do what at least the first 4 Bond movies did and that was incorporate melodic moments of the Bond theme into the actual title theme song/music.

As for Wilson, I'm just glad he's acknowledged that the fast cut-editting was a huge issue and compromised the film as a whole and not just within the action scenes. At least it's reasuuring to know that it's pretty much 99% guaranteed that it wont return for Bond 23. Now, here's hoping we get some legitimate and exciting news before the end of the summer.

[Mr Teddy Bear]

Oh well, I find it to be a tired retread of Goldfinger with a bloke instead of a dame, but then again I'm one of the few who doesn't like Goldfinger either, so each to their own. RE: The James Bond Theme being referenced in the title theme, that happened with both You Know My Name and Another Way to Die, so it's not as if they forgot about doing that since the 60s.

I'm glad fast cutting won't be returning, but I only think it detrimentally effected a few of QUNATUM's scenes- not the whole film. I think the editing style of CASINO ROYALE was perfect for Bond and I hope it returns.

Edited by Mr Teddy Bear, 27 March 2009 - 12:30 PM.

[Mr_Wint]

Thunderball is NOT bland. KKBB is great though and to be honest, I like them both equally but TB is in no way bland.

Agree. Thunderball happens to be one of my favourite Bondsongs.

I think the most important thing is that the song is used in the actual score like Barry always did. This enhance both the song and the film. Arnold try to do this, but he is far too subtle, IMO.

The second most important thing is that the actual song can be identified as a Bondtheme. It should work and show some respect to this particular genre. A timeless edge is needed as much as a contemporary edge is needed. Just as with the films it is necessary to find that critical balance between new and old. Both Madonna and White completely failed with this.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Thunderball is NOT bland. KKBB is great though and to be honest, I like them both equally but TB is in no way bland.

Agree. Thunderball happens to be one of my favourite Bondsongs.

I think the most important thing is that the song is used in the actual score like Barry always did. This enhance both the song and the film. Arnold try to do this, but he is far too subtle, IMO.

The second most important thing is that the actual song can be identified as a Bondtheme. It should work and show some respect to this particular genre. A timeless edge is needed as much as a contemporary edge is needed. Just as with the films it is necessary to find that critical balance between new and old. Both Madonna and White completely failed with this.

How do you feel Cornell worked in this enviorment?

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

he [Wilson] expressed frustration that the tight deadlines have compromised Eon's influence over the title song. He said that in the past, the composer of the song worked in consultation with the filmmaking team. In recent years, however, Eon had little or no say over the song, which has been delivered so late in the process that the producers have to accept whatever is delivered. (Although Wilson did not mention any specific song titles, one would not be going out on a limb to assume it includes the dreadful Another Way to Die from Quantum Of Solace.)

I am somewhat pleased to read this. I often had suspicions about too much studio involvement with the title songs and this confirms my belief. Its a shame the producers can't relinquish further control. I've said this before but notwithstanding Arnold's efforts for the scores, the musical credibility of the series has gone completely tits up IMO. Perhaps for the first three decades we were spoilt, but IMO the title tracks from the Brosnan era onwards have done most of the films and indeed the series no favours at all.

[Quantumofsolace007]

it's odd i have to disagree namely because i loved You know my name and Another way to die it's nice after rock and roll bein ignored by the franchise (save for live and let die a view to a kill and the living daylights) we are finnaly getting rock songs for bond

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

it's odd i have to disagree namely because i loved You know my name and Another way to die it's nice after rock and roll bein ignored by the franchise (save for live and let die a view to a kill and the living daylights) we are finnaly getting rock songs for bond

I certainly don't think all the songs from Brosnan era onwards are bad. I loved YKMN - it was a good song and video that worked well for CR. Change from all the female vocalists as well. I think the studios should back off a bit (IMO) with the title tracks though. They don't integrate with the films at all. In my mind you may as well grab any popular song that is around on each films release date and stick that in and you would have exactly the same effect as some of the songs we ended up with.

[Kashif]

It seems as if Wilson is himself unsure of the timeline of the next movie. He said towards the end of last year that the next movie would be released in 2.5 to 3 years and he also said that he would get the writers to start working on the script in January. If anything, he was supposed to give us an update in this interview on where the writers stand in the script writing process. On the other hand, a flat refusal to divulge any information is extremely disappointing. I personally think that the fans deserve a more open ended approach from him. Also, the time interval between the movies should to some extent be based on the fans' wishes among other factors. One thing that I personally don't know but some of you guys may be aware of is why does Barbara Broccoli always play second fiddle to Wilson in relation to all the production matters? It seems that all the major decisions whether they relate to the timeline of the movies, major elements of the screenplay or the direction the character of James Bond takes, all emanate from Wilson and Barbara is just there to give an approving nod. Shouldn't she be the younger, more dynamic force behind these movies than Wilson?

[JimmyBond]

One thing that I personally don't know but some of you guys may be aware of is why does Barbara Broccoli always play second fiddle to Wilson in relation to all the production matters? It seems that all the major decisions whether they relate to the timeline of the movies, major elements of the screenplay or the direction the character of James Bond takes, all emanate from Wilson and Barbara is just there to give an approving nod. Shouldn't she be the younger, more dynamic force behind these movies than Wilson?

Where have you been? While what you say may be true of the Brosnan films, Barbara has been the driving force behind the Craig films.

[Single-O-Seven]

One thing that I personally don't know but some of you guys may be aware of is why does Barbara Broccoli always play second fiddle to Wilson in relation to all the production matters? It seems that all the major decisions whether they relate to the timeline of the movies, major elements of the screenplay or the direction the character of James Bond takes, all emanate from Wilson and Barbara is just there to give an approving nod. Shouldn't she be the younger, more dynamic force behind these movies than Wilson?

Where have you been? While what you say may be true of the Brosnan films, Barbara has been the driving force behind the Craig films.

I believe it's been said that Barbara is notoriously media-shy. Until the DVD tribute to her father first released on the special editions 10 years ago, I'd never even seen her before (though was well aware of her and who she was). As Jimmy Bond stated, she's become much more of an apparent force in the Craig era, and we've seen more of her in the last few years than ever before. I think she may still be a bit media-shy, however, and so lets Wilson do much of the talking, but it's quite likely they agree on what he should or shouldn't say beforehand. I don't think it's simply a case of Wilson saying what he wants without first consulting with Barbara.

[Quantumofsolace007]

a few things

1. Barbra first thought of Daniel Craig as 007, Barbra i belive came up with the main idea for the world is not enough, and som of the director choices have been hers as well.


2. Zorin said it best "if you and your boss have an idea on the next project or 2 and that it will take 2-4 year to complete them are u gonna tell the world your plans NO"

3. our defitinion of "no movement" and MGW's def might be every different for him it might mean they have a plot out line and a few character ideas but nothing solid or the first dfraft is done but since it's gonna go through so many rewrites it's not really a devlopment

[Matt_13]

I expect a story to be in place by the end of the year, and maybe even an outline, but I don't think a screenplay will be complete until the middle of 2010. They need to take their time with this next one, they don't have the sequel route to rely on to help them formulate a story, and it's imperative they keep things fresh. I have no idea where they can go with Bond that hasn't already been touched upon in the previous films or other franchises. They only thing I can think of is that the next film will feature a large scale plot that will solidify Bond as the worlds most famous secret agent (he's already known as the man who beat Le Chiffre and now Dominic Greene) and then set up for another sequel similar to the novels FRWL, YOLT, and TMWTGG where Quantum will make Bond fall into a trap and brainwash him for use against his own government. In any case, I'm sure they will think of something, hopefully they'll take their time with this one and make another great film.

[double o ego]

Oh well, I find it to be a tired retread of Goldfinger with a bloke instead of a dame, but then again I'm one of the few who doesn't like Goldfinger either, so each to their own. RE: The James Bond Theme being referenced in the title theme, that happened with both You Know My Name and Another Way to Die, so it's not as if they forgot about doing that since the 60s.

I'm glad fast cutting won't be returning, but I only think it detrimentally effected a few of QUNATUM's scenes- not the whole film. I think the editing style of CASINO ROYALE was perfect for Bond and I hope it returns.

I guess I want the Bond theme to be as blatantly recognizable within the theme as it was in the first 4 Bond themes. For YKMN and AWTD, I hear a few instruments, sounding like it wants to play moments of the Bond theme but always shying away from actually doing it.

[Quantumofsolace007]

I expect a story to be in place by the end of the year, and maybe even an outline, but I don't think a screenplay will be complete until the middle of 2010. They need to take their time with this next one, they don't have the sequel route to rely on to help them formulate a story, and it's imperative they keep things fresh. I have no idea where they can go with Bond that hasn't already been touched upon in the previous films or other franchises. They only thing I can think of is that the next film will feature a large scale plot that will solidify Bond as the worlds most famous secret agent (he's already known as the man who beat Le Chiffre and now Dominic Greene) and then set up for another sequel similar to the novels FRWL, YOLT, and TMWTGG where Quantum will make Bond fall into a trap and brainwash him for use against his own government. In any case, I'm sure they will think of something, hopefully they'll take their time with this one and make another great film.

Why is there this bizare and qwuite frankly stupid notion that more time better script. 3 years produced Die another day though 4 years produced Casino Royale so take your pic.

Personnaly it's not like it's a totla shot in the dark We have real wolrd threats (terrorism, global warming, etc) an multi film orgnization we know nothing about and can be used a varity of ways, Quantum, and we have some unused fleming elments (characters locations titles and plots) so it's far from a shot in the dark with bond 23.

[Kashif]

I cannot agree more with Mr. Quantumofsolace. I think there is a strong misconception out there that longer interval between films will lead to better quality of films. A script written with a good understanding of the subject can lead to a well made movie within 2 years.

[JimmyBond]

I cannot agree more with Mr. Quantumofsolace. I think there is a strong misconception out there that longer interval between films will lead to better quality of films. A script written with a good understanding of the subject can lead to a well made movie within 2 years.

I don't disagree with you (or QoS) on whether or not there has to be a 2 year wait. My question to you guys is why does it matter if the film comes out in 2 years or 3? I'm not so obsessed with Bond I need a new film every other year, I'm perfectly content with the selection I have now.

[tdalton]

I cannot agree more with Mr. Quantumofsolace. I think there is a strong misconception out there that longer interval between films will lead to better quality of films. A script written with a good understanding of the subject can lead to a well made movie within 2 years.

I don't disagree with you (or QoS) on whether or not there has to be a 2 year wait. My question to you guys is why does it matter if the film comes out in 2 years or 3? I'm not so obsessed with Bond I need a new film every other year, I'm perfectly content with the selection I have now.

I don't mind if they wait 3 years for the next film. I'd rather get another great, high-quality film than have a mediocre film rushed out in time to make a 2 year deadline, and if that means having to wait longer, then that's fine with me. They've proven that they can deliver a great film on the 2 year schedule with QUANTUM OF SOLACE, but I'd rather they take their time, get re-energized, and then go ahead and make the best film in the franchise. After the rumors of a 3 year wait surfaced a while ago, it did sound as though Michael Wilson wanted some time to re-group after QUANTUM OF SOLACE, and I think that he's deserved some time off if he chooses to take some. They've just finished a worldwide search for a new Bond and made the two best films in the franchise, all in the last 3-4 years, which I would imagine is quite an involved process. Certainly, I think, he's earned some time off if he wants to take some time for himself.

[Kashif]

In the end, I think it all comes down to individual preferences. I think we all want good quality films but some of us are just more eager than others. In my case, I find 3 years too long an interval, so I would prefer them to make a good quality movie every 2 years.