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[Marcato]

at some time ago i watched my UE dvd Thunderball which is an European region 2 that comes with "beloved" subtitles for the commentary (which the SE did not have - R2)

Well...., during the comentary Peter Hunt states several times that the editing is made in a pace and HE IS RIGHT

before the commentary i never noticed that bond actually walks away from the receptionist in the hotel only to pick up his key in the nex shot

i realy call that good editiong when the pace of the film makes you un-notice the bloobers there might be

what do you think

[Judo chop]

i realy call that good editiong when the pace of the film makes you un-notice the bloobers there might be

what do you think

Good editing, sure.

Though it might have something to do with a mesmerizing lead actor, too. When a performance is so cool that the character’s very walk becomes a watchable event, bloopers can seem less significant, if they’re even to be noticed at all.

[plankattack]

There's something of a "flawed genius" to TB, because I think if you went through the film at wrote down the all bloopers re: editing etc, you'd fill up the page pretty quickly. But the film nevertheless works - as Judo said, SC's performance is terrific, both Domino and Fiona Volpe live up to expectations, and the script is very good indeed.

Unlike GF, I do feel that TB is plot-driven film (unlike GF which IMHO is first-class exercise in style over a substance - and that's not a criticism as GF is great watch). Despite the holes in TB's plot, it still moves the film along and sense of danger and race-against-the-clock nature of the last 40mins means that the little things are easily overcome.

[Marcato]

i always felt that TB is a WHOLE-AFTERNOON-FILM (like TITANIC, KING KONG, THE LORD OF THE RINGS) becaurse of its style - it ends quite differently than the others ( so does LALD and GE but still they are not in the same mood)

never knew if that is correct but i have always felt like this

[plankattack]

i always felt that TB is a WHOLE-AFTERNOON-FILM (like TITANIC, KING KONG, THE LORD OF THE RINGS) becaurse of its style - it ends quite differently than the others ( so does LALD and GE but still they are not in the same mood)

never knew if that is correct but i have always felt like this

Agreed - it was the longest film of the series up to that point (without looking it up I think even now it's surpassed only by OHMSS and maybe CR) but it's also the first Bond-epic. DN as the first in the series, still feels like a "small" film; FRWL is a traditional spy thriller, and GF is GF. TB sets out to top it's predeccessors in every which way. I've heard it said that TB was considered as the first film. It's an interesting brain exercise to imagine a 1962 TB, and how the series might have unfolded.

I'll say this - I feel it works better than the film that follows it, which literally sets out to be even bigger. Unlike TB though, while YOLT's sets are big, its plot is really quite padded.

[Marcato]

While YOLT was unlike its preseedors i think it comes to an satisfying conclusion - but TB is, as its poster claims, BIG

Bond, together with ladies, also seem more driven to his work (and his concern about the bombs - and with the nurse in shrubland only being a sign of how bond is bored at this helath-center and cannot be normal - he has to spy on everything and also make ravage) whereas i felt that he in GF did it more for fun ("i know the best places in town", Bond almost forgetting GF when a lady runs him up while he follow GF, "Disiplin 007")

[MarkA]

I have a truly wonderful experience about Thunderball that relates to the error's and mistakes. In 1990 I went to a showing of Thunderball at the NFT and afterwards a group of us went for a meal with Terence Young. Well I got to talking to the man himself and he readily admitted to me he got bored with Thunderball, all the underwater stuff and he realised when he got back to England after being on location that he hadn't done enough coverage. So he said they played around with all sorts of tricks in the editing to cover it. He pointed out to me something that I hadn't noticed. When Leiter and Bond go out searching for the Vulcan Bomber in the helicopter they go from left to right across the screen. But on the way back he wanted them to go right to left, so they just flipped the film. If you notice Bond's wristwatch changes wrist. He was quite proud of it too. He said no one noticed or commented on it. It was really great talking to him because he said seeing the film again on the big screen he noticed all the continuity errors and readily admitted to me it was sloppy film making. Wonderful evening, wonderful memories.

[Colossus]

I have a truly wonderful experience about Thunderball that relates to the error's and mistakes. In 1990 I went to a showing of Thunderball at the NFT and afterwards a group of us went for a meal with Terence Young. Well I got to talking to the man himself and he readily admitted to me he got bored with Thunderball, all the underwater stuff and he realised when he got back to England after being on location that he hadn't done enough coverage. So he said they played around with all sorts of tricks in the editing to cover it. He pointed out to me something that I hadn't noticed. When Leiter and Bond go out searching for the Vulcan Bomber in the helicopter they go from left to right across the screen. But on the way back he wanted them to go right to left, so they just flipped the film. If you notice Bond's wristwatch changes wrist. He was quite proud of it too. He said no one noticed or commented on it. It was really great talking to him because he said seeing the film again on the big screen he noticed all the continuity errors and readily admitted to me it was sloppy film making. Wonderful evening, wonderful memories.

Wow great insight!

[double o ego]

I have a truly wonderful experience about Thunderball that relates to the error's and mistakes. In 1990 I went to a showing of Thunderball at the NFT and afterwards a group of us went for a meal with Terence Young. Well I got to talking to the man himself and he readily admitted to me he got bored with Thunderball, all the underwater stuff and he realised when he got back to England after being on location that he hadn't done enough coverage. So he said they played around with all sorts of tricks in the editing to cover it. He pointed out to me something that I hadn't noticed. When Leiter and Bond go out searching for the Vulcan Bomber in the helicopter they go from left to right across the screen. But on the way back he wanted them to go right to left, so they just flipped the film. If you notice Bond's wristwatch changes wrist. He was quite proud of it too. He said no one noticed or commented on it. It was really great talking to him because he said seeing the film again on the big screen he noticed all the continuity errors and readily admitted to me it was sloppy film making. Wonderful evening, wonderful memories.

Incredible. Young admits that he was bored and made the film in a sloppy way, yet, imo it's the 2nd or 3rd best Bond movie ever made and is easily my favourite Bond movie. Imagine if he had, to his standards, actually bothered to put much more of an effort...TB probably would have been a full blown masterpiece.

[Judo chop]

I believe that 'reverse film' scene is mentioned in the commentary track, or in one of the DVD features.

Point being, I found out about it somewhere, and it wasn't from Terrence Young.

[MarkA]

I believe that 'reverse film' scene is mentioned in the commentary track, or in one of the DVD features.

Point being, I found out about it somewhere, and it wasn't from Terrence Young.

I believe you are right. It is on the DVD, but this was a few years before DVD. And it was kind of nice to know Terence Young himself was aware of the faults.

[Daddy Bond]

So, does anyone care to post a more complete list of these errors? You have me intrigued. I may have to rewatch it for these mistakes.

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

I have a truly wonderful experience about Thunderball that relates to the error's and mistakes. In 1990 I went to a showing of Thunderball at the NFT and afterwards a group of us went for a meal with Terence Young. Well I got to talking to the man himself and he readily admitted to me he got bored with Thunderball, all the underwater stuff and he realised when he got back to England after being on location that he hadn't done enough coverage. So he said they played around with all sorts of tricks in the editing to cover it. He pointed out to me something that I hadn't noticed. When Leiter and Bond go out searching for the Vulcan Bomber in the helicopter they go from left to right across the screen. But on the way back he wanted them to go right to left, so they just flipped the film. If you notice Bond's wristwatch changes wrist. He was quite proud of it too. He said no one noticed or commented on it. It was really great talking to him because he said seeing the film again on the big screen he noticed all the continuity errors and readily admitted to me it was sloppy film making. Wonderful evening, wonderful memories.

Yes, fascinating indeed. Thanks for posting.
Peter Hunt persuaded the studio and producers to postpone the release date so he could construct a better film. Good job he did by the sound of this, or there may have been more continuity errors!

I believe that 'reverse film' scene is mentioned in the commentary track, or in one of the DVD features.

Point being, I found out about it somewhere, and it wasn't from Terrence Young.

I believe you are right. It is on the DVD, but this was a few years before DVD. And it was kind of nice to know Terence Young himself was aware of the faults.

Yes it is stated by Peter Hunt on the commentary, originally released on the restored deluxe CAV Thunderball Laserdisc release in 1995-6, and subsequently transfered to the DVD's.

[Fiona Volpe lover]

I have a book somewhere that lists the goofs in Bond films,and Thunderball had the most. Odd,as it's a fantastic movie which is my third favourite Bond film. Just shows the general high quality of the movie I suppose in that it has all these mistakes and yet it's still superb.

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

This is what I uploaded on youtube, and I believe it is Terence Young's last TV interview, and gives his perspective on TB