
The Tony Manero franchise
#31
Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:23 PM
#32
Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:28 PM
Scorsese might also be a good choice.

Wha-?
Loomis recommending Scorsese for a project?
My head just exploded.
#33
Posted 11 September 2010 - 02:45 PM
#34
Posted 11 September 2010 - 03:14 PM
I sincerely hope they don't follow the obvious path. Stayin Alive was bad enough, but I wouldn't want the final word on the Manero character to be some kind of unofficial chapter in the Step Up series with a hip-hop soundtrack and dances.I've always (well, in the post-Balboa age) thought this was an idea with potential. The film doesn't even have to involve music/dancing as seeing the character all these years later is an interesting enough idea without that, although I suppose Tony training a young protegee would be the obvious path to follow.
Under those circumstances, I say just let it be.
#35
Posted 11 September 2010 - 04:13 PM
Yeah.I sincerely hope they don't follow the obvious path. Stayin Alive was bad enough, but I wouldn't want the final word on the Manero character to be some kind of unofficial chapter in the Step Up series with a hip-hop soundtrack and dances.
I've always (well, in the post-Balboa age) thought this was an idea with potential. The film doesn't even have to involve music/dancing as seeing the character all these years later is an interesting enough idea without that, although I suppose Tony training a young protegee would be the obvious path to follow.
Under those circumstances, I say just let it be.
To be honest, I have a hard time imagining a way in which a third Tony Manero film could genuinely be interesting.
#36
Posted 11 September 2010 - 04:48 PM
Scorsese might also be a good choice.
Wha-?
Loomis recommending Scorsese for a project?
My head just exploded.
Well, I don't loathe Scorsese. I love GOODFELLAS and CASINO, and like AFTER HOURS, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD, CAPE FEAR, KUNDUN, RAGING BULL and (with a few reservations) TAXI DRIVER. Besides, occupying him with SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 3 would keep him from making another great big slab of dullness like THE AVIATOR, THE DEPARTED, GANGS OF NEW YORK or SHUTTER ISLAND.

But I certainly don't wish to see Manero training a young hopeful. If SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 3's gonna stand toe-to-toe with ROCKY BALBOA, then Tony's gotta do the dancing himself.
#37
Posted 11 September 2010 - 04:55 PM
Some of your comments in the past would indicate otherwise.Well, I don't loathe Scorsese.
Glad to hear it. Ever seen LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST?I love GOODFELLAS and CASINO, and like AFTER HOURS, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD, CAPE FEAR, KUNDUN, RAGING BULL and (with a few reservations) TAXI DRIVER.
I fear that SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 3 a.k.a. TONY MANERO would be so much like ROCKY BALBOA that it would seem entirely redundant.If SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 3's gonna stand toe-to-toe with ROCKY BALBOA, then Tony's gotta do the dancing himself.
#38
Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:17 PM
Ever seen LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST?
No. Should I?
I fear that SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER 3 a.k.a. TONY MANERO would be so much like ROCKY BALBOA that it would seem entirely redundant.
Sure, but it could still be a decent flick. I actually feel this way about THE WRESTLER. I think it's a retread of ROCKY BALBOA, and I don't find it any darker or deeper than ROCKY BALBOA to any meaningful degree (although I'm sure I'm in a minority here and that plenty of people consider THE WRESTLER to be the RAGING BULL to ROCKY BALBOA'S, well, ROCKY). However, it's certainly a watchable movie.
#39
Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:46 PM
And yet - Rocky Balboa...
#40
Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:57 PM
Well, yes. It's Scorsese's most impressive and mature work (at least as far as I'm concerned, anyway), even it has the occasional rough edge. In many ways, it's Scorsese's most personal film, and LAST TEMPTATION sums up many of his obsessions.No. Should I?
#41
Posted 11 September 2010 - 11:24 PM
I'd say out of all those that Saturday Night Fever is the only one that's anything original. With Manero's story it wasn't about winning or losing or getting into the right school or proving a point to bigots or parents, but about a guy growing up.Well, I'd watch it but for me there's got to be dancing. It's all about the dancing, never mind the gritty suburban drama, just look at JT go! That said, plenty of these modern dance films have the moves (Step Up, Save the Last Dance, Bring It On blah blah blah) but they have no heart and no charisma. They are personality free zones. Somehow modern Hollywood comes nowhere near capturing the spirit of Saturday Night Fever, Dirty Dancing, Flashdance, Footloose etc. So how could a third Tony Manero film possibly be a good idea?
And yet - Rocky Balboa...
I give a little more of a pass to the '80s movies because that's when I grew up, but still those are themes that went back 50 or more years. That said the Step Ups and Save the Last Dances are about the opposites attract and make good through the passion for dance kind of junk where everybody succeeds in the end.
Manero wins his contest, but he loses, and all he gets is a life lesson to show for it and knows it's going to be a tough time, although seeing him make it in Staying Alive seems to be a sign he did okay for himself.
#42
Posted 12 September 2010 - 12:34 AM
SNF is a solid 70s classic, altho it's mostly known for it's music, it's tonally really not a million miles away from all those other 70's NYC classics like Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Driver, Looking for Mr Goodbar etc etc. Travolta is terrific in it and fully deserved his Oscar nom.
SA was a dissapointment at the time but actually doesnt deserve it's horrible reputation; Travolta is solid, the music is pretty good and in truth, the biggest issue is Stallone...
Now a 3rd part of Tony's story would definitely interest me....so what would he have done in the last 25 years? gone to LA and entered the film or tv business? become a broadway director? interestingly there have been very few movies about theatrical life this last 25 years, maybe somethinig that falls somewhere between 'All That Jazz', 'A Chorus Line' and 'Rocky Balboa' could really work?