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[Quantumofsolace007]

thus far the Pakour sequences have been hall mark for Daniel Craig's bond films.

We had an amazing Constuction sequence in Casino Royale

and a chase from the swers to the roof tops in Quantum of Solace.


i've seen a few cool pakour ideas .. Like on a crowded highway running on the tops of trucks and cars etc


What do you think?


If it's as cool as the first two sure.

[Jeff007]

I don't think you can count the Quantum of Solace chase as parkour. Bond once again just used determination.

[DamnCoffee]

I wouldn't call that Sienna chase Parkour, either. I would love the franchise to introduce more foot chases in future installments, though.

[BlackFire]

What is a Parkour?

[Jeff007]

Parkour is "the art of movement". Re: Casino Royale Madagascar chase.

Sebastian Foucan co-founded it I believe.

[BlackFire]

Ah, thank you for the explanation.

Then I think Bond 23 should have a Parkour sequence, but a very good planned one.

[ElFenomeno]

i would love a bond 23 with more tension , suspense and mistery. and just 2 big action scenes and one small scene like the ap. fight in QoS.

[Captain Tightpants]

No. We've already had the construction site chase in CASINO ROYALE, and we had the rooftop chase in QUANTUM OF SOLACE (even if it doesn't count as parkour). Having another similar chase would just bore audiences because they've already seen it all before.

[ElFenomeno]

cars chases exist from quite some time and i don't see audiences bored by a good executed car chase action scene.

[stamper]

Bond 23 will probably have whatever is in Bourne 4 if it comes out before their own production start.

[Eurospy]

Bond 23 will probably have whatever is in Bourne 4 if it comes out before their own production start.

I'm afraid that I diasgree with you, stamper. Bourne 4 itself (an adaptation of a non-Bourne novel but also by Ludlum, as reported on another thread) does share a basic similarity in terms of premise to Casino Royale (although not a rip-off, just as I don't think that QOS is a rip-off of Bourne).

But if one considers QOS to follow the trend of Bourne (which I do not consider a rip-off, and it only happens in a few action sequences), then from that perspective, it seems that it is Bourne who is now following Bond's trend. I find nothing wrong in either cases, as long as both characters maitain their respective and distinguished identities.

And just like we've had a lot of car chases in Bond films in a row (along with the ski chases of the Moore Era), as well as gambling sequences, I find no problem in having another footchase, as long as it's approached differently from the previous two.

The one in QOS was different from the parkour sequence in CR, so it would be interesting if they presented us with an approach which differed from both previous cases.

[Joey Bond]

Ski chase anyone?

[tdalton]

No. We've already had the construction site chase in CASINO ROYALE, and we had the rooftop chase in QUANTUM OF SOLACE (even if it doesn't count as parkour). Having another similar chase would just bore audiences because they've already seen it all before.

Agreed.

[Captain Tightpants]

cars chases exist from quite some time and i don't see audiences bored by a good executed car chase action scene.

Yeah, but the thing is that they've all been markedy different, even if the concept has remained relatively unchanged. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY put Bond behind the wheel of a Citroen 2CV against much more powerful cars. TOMORROW NEVER DIES had him driving from the back seat. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS saw him up against the police, forcing him to simply incapacitate, rather than kill them. CASINO ROYALE's chase ended with one of the mot spectacular wipeouts in cinema, while QUANTUM OF SOLACE set Bond in heavy traffic around Lake Como. Even DIE ANOTHER DAY managed it - however flawed it may have been - by loading Zao's car with gadgets to rival Bond.

The point is that even if car chases have been a staple of the franchise for some time, they've all been different. And I can't see how you'd get that diversity with foot chases. CASINO ROYALE had Bond leaping about the construction site, while QUANTUM OF SOLACE had him going across the rooftops. Having another one where Bond is leaping over gaps nd the like would just be redundant. Sure, you could maybe have him chasing a villain on foot through the streets of London, and that would keep audiences interested. But not parkour; Bond's already done it. I can't think of a single occasion when the producers have repeated an action scene from film to film; the closest I can get is the parachute jumps in MOONRAKER and QUANTUM OF SOLACE, but thirty years had elapsed between them and they are still very different (in MOONRAKER, Bond is trying to get a parachute from a villain, while in QUANTUM OF SOLACE, he's trying to hold onto Camille while falling into a sinkhole).

[sharpshooter]

I absolutely loved both chases, they have a demented energy about them. And yes, the QoS scene does not involve parkour. Just pure guts and determination. I wouldn’t mind seeing them do something like this again, though done in a different manner mind you.

[007karl007]

Id like if it was more like casino royales parkour chase
the on foot chase from qos was to hard to make out what was going on
the camera work was too shaky

[MkB]

Should bond 23 have a pakour scequence?

No.
I pretty much agree with Daniel Craig, in his latest interviews: for Bond 23, he should spend at least half the movie on a beach

Seriously, I'm all for underwater action sequences in the next one. We've had plenty of "ground" action scenes in the last couple.

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

It'd be tough to top the parkour from Casino Royale. If they can find a way, bring it on!

[Agent J.Bond]

I always wanted to see Bond in a motorbike chase through a subway.

Edited by Agent J.Bond, 27 December 2008 - 08:56 PM.

[Double-0-Seven]

As much as I loved both of the foot chases, I'd say leave them out next time around. That way they can try something new with Craig's bond. I'd love to see some ski action in the style of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, or some underwater scenes as mentioned previously. Either of these would be great additions and I'd love to see Craig in a situation like that.

[Quantumofsolace007]

personnally i'm resurecting this thread after watching the foot race in Quantum of solace i am amazed at how cool and different it is from the madagascar chase that said personnaly if they can do something unique for a bond 23 foot race (on a crowded highway or on the docks) then i say go for it.

[Zorin Industries]

thus far the Pakour sequences have been hall mark for Daniel Craig's bond films.

Really?

[MajorB]

I agree with several other folks here--two films in a row is fine, but they should give it a rest for a bit unless they can come up with something really interesting and different for a foot pursuit.

Actually, for B23 I'd like so see chases in general kept to a minimum. QoS had the car chase, foot chase, and boat chase; and the plane sequence, if you don't want to call it an actual chase, was very chase-like. I'd like to see different kinds of action scenes--and more suspense scenes as well. (The opera scene in QoS was a great example of this, at least the first part before the fights.)

[Craig is 007]

A foot chase/parkour sequence on a "snowy" location. I would love to see Daniel Craig do some stunts in a cold environment. A ski chase would also be fantastic!

Edited by Craig is 007, 26 March 2009 - 10:32 PM.

[danslittlefinger]

When is a chase scene considered a "parkour" one?
I don't think the QoS Siena one qualified did it?

As for another specific parkour scene, well it would have to be highly original to make an appearance again and be effective.

Edit: Reading the last few posts, how about the "sport" of underwater ice diving..you know, they go through a hole under the ice and swim for distances.
Could make for something very original.
Taking in the snow and water fans there!

[HellIsHere]

Why not a crazy motorcicle chase sequence within the NY traffic that ends inside the NY subway system?

[double o ego]

No no no no no. I want Bond to spend like 3 to 5 mins infiltrating some location using stealth. Killing/dispatching people both with his silenced ppk and via hand to hand combat and dispatching some of them in Connery-esque ways i.e. doing something a tad humourous just to break the tension slightly of an otherwise deadly situation. Lets have Bond live upto actually being a secret agent.