Mathis - did he really have to be in QOS?
#1
Posted 24 November 2008 - 07:26 AM
A fair amount of time was spent with Bond tracking Mathis down, talking things over, long flight to Bolivia and then all of sudden. Mathis has been captured and shot. Following some final rites his body is dumped in a bin.
Did Mathis' involvement advance the plot? Was it necessary to have all that build up for so little payoff? Did Mathis have to die or should he haved lived and popped up another day?
I feel it's a shame they killed off this character.
#2
Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:07 AM
In less than 15 min after his introduction we are expected to care about his death. Yet, no time is used to actually build up anything between him and Bond. The emotions between Mathis and Bond felt totally unmotivated.
#3
Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:14 AM
His role in the movie is to provide Bond with information so that the plot can advance. But there was no real reason for him to go to Bolivia.
In less than 15 min after his introduction we are expected to care about his death. Yet, no time is used to actually build up anything between him and Bond. The emotions between Mathis and Bond felt totally unmotivated.
Yes, that is what i am talking about.
#4
Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:20 AM
And Mathis' should never have been treated so callously by Bond, which is COMPLETELY out of his character for such a dear friend. And why did Bond have to dump Mathis in the dumpster anyway? Why couldn't he have just left him in the street or propped him up against the dumpster? It wasn't like he moved the body to a different location. In one shot, you can see the dead cops on the ground behind Bond. And he didn't actually hide the body either because Mathis' arm is draping over the side, so why do it that way other than to show that Craig's Bond is a callous, cold-hearted S.O.B.?
#5
Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:09 AM
In less than 15 min after his introduction we are expected to care about his death. Yet, no time is used to actually build up anything between him and Bond.
Excuse me, since it's a CONTINUATION of Casino Royale, I wouldn't think that would be a problem.
#6
Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:10 AM
#7
Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:26 AM
He is in SOLACE as his character shared a knowledge of VESPER with BOND, BOND needs someone outside of MI6 and the CIA he can trust and turn to and most importantly MATHIS serves as a reminder to BOND about the pitfalls of the job. When MATHIS is pondering whether he wants to help his woman dab on suntan lotion or join BOND on a jolly to South America, we see BOND too see his future life stretching before him.
#8
Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:30 AM
We all thought he was a bad guy, and suddenly he's back, helping out Bond, and we're all the way behind him again. Then out of nowhere, he's suddenly gone again... and we can't help but feel bad for this guy who got screwed over again and again. Quite lovely, I felt.
I'd stop being so picky. If there's one character that doesn't have to be in a Bond film it's Sargent Pepper. Wow, I disliked that guy.
#9
Posted 24 November 2008 - 11:34 AM
#10
Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:22 PM
When Mathis got it, that was it for me. He was a link to "class", for a film that has none. QOS is so empty....with a director who doesn't know what to do...so he puts his fingerprints everywhere to show he was there. My least favorite "Bond" film.
Paul
#11
Posted 24 November 2008 - 03:55 PM
#12
Posted 24 November 2008 - 04:05 PM
#13
Posted 24 November 2008 - 05:25 PM
#14
Posted 24 November 2008 - 05:30 PM
perhaps he lived to die another day....
#15
Posted 24 November 2008 - 05:31 PM