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[DamnCoffee]

Right, for the continuity side of things I've been telling myself that the last scene of Casino Royale is set in 2008, since the Tickets on Greene's fundraiser confirm that Quantum of Solace is set in the present. (Either that or Bond has been driving around Lake Garda for the past two years)

Right, so how long did it actually take Bond to track White down. It really can't be two years, can it? Considering that Bond recieves Whites number in August 2006.

I would think it wouldn't of taken him that long, since Bond has his number. It's just really strange.

One possibility is that Vesper texted Bond 'Mr White' and the number underneath was Vespers, since it has a +44 infront of the number. A '+44' is added infront of a number when you recieve a text.

[pgram]

You have to take time passing by in (or in between films) with a grain of salt, otherwise nothing makes sence, right? For example, if what haunts Bond is Vesper's loss, one might assume that he hasn't slept for two years, according to that reasoning...

[Bonita]

Well, what we know it that there is a two year gap.

The +44 at the beginning of White's number is the international country code for the UK. This means Mr. White has a UK phone number in the text, I believe.

So we have MI6 setting up an interrogation in Sienna. That would take time and planning. This is happening during the August, 2008 Palio.

In the real world of espionage, MI6 would tap that phone, listen in to see if they could find links to White's associates, track the movement of money through his accounts, do everything they could to unveil his network. Only failing that would they try to go on to foreign soil, shoot him and bring him in for questioning, and then only with greater evidence than that provided by Vesper.

So, yes, that could take two years.

keep dancing...

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[BigBreach]

+44 merely means that it is a UK based cell phone.

http://www.kropla.com/dialcode.htm

[Vauxhall]

One possibility is that Vesper texted Bond 'Mr White' and the number underneath was Vespers, since it has a +44 infront of the number. A '+44' is added infront of a number when you recieve a text.

A slight flaw is that the number isn't +44. This is the message in full from Vesper:

04-Aug-06 16:38
For James:
Mr White
+3926222431

The actual dialling code (+39) is Italian.

[DamnCoffee]

Ahh. I beg your pardon. Slight miscalculation, forgive me.

[MkB]

I do keep in mind that this is a movie and that being that nitpicky about details makes no sense, but as pgram said somewhere, i's our duty as Bond geeks to discuss details to death.

Soooooooo....

I don't think it would be that easy for Bond to find White just because he had a mobile phone number.
The guy certainly had plenty of disposable phones, and even if he has one he keeps all the time, I don't imagine giving this number to Vesper, who was just a small cog in a big machine.

[zencat]

I guess the answer is two years. We see CR takes place in 2006 and we see QOS takes place in 2008. My guess is the biggest problem wasn't tracking down White. It was convincing MI6 to give him another DBS.

[Double-Oh Agent]

I think it's just a continuity error that they didn't see or bother to correct--the movies are supposed to be 10 minutes or so apart. The 2006 date on the phone and the 2008 date on the ticket are just from when the films were shot and whoever was responsible for inputing those for the films automatically or unconcernedly typed in the real life current dates.

[Mister E]

I think it's just a continuity error that they didn't see or bother to correct--the movies are supposed to be 10 minutes or so apart. The 2006 date on the phone and the 2008 date on the ticket are just from when the films were shot and whoever was responsible for inputing those for the films automatically or unconcernedly typed in the real life current dates.

Actually MGW said it was an hour. Anyway, we can't possibly believe M's office was redecorated in an hour either. I just don't think about it.

[[dark]]

I use the gap before Casino Royale's final scene as a "two-year flash-forward", which explains the new-look MI6, and the 2008 ticket. Not sure if it's valid, but that's how I see it.

[Mister E]

I use the gap before Casino Royale's final scene as a "two-year flash-forward", which explains the new-look MI6, and the 2008 ticket. Not sure if it's valid, but that's how I see it.

That is a plausiable explanation though I wish they indicated that it took two years to track down White in QOS.

[Captain Tightpants]

I suspect there was about a week between Vesper's death and Bond apprehending White, largely because M was in Siena. I suspect that was where Rene Mathis was taken for interrogation - after all, he was detained in northern Italy - which M would have overseen personally given that he was so intimately involved in the Montenegro operation. It's likely Bond went after White, but didn't inform MI6 of if because he wasn't sure whether he'd actally get his man. Once Bond had him, he probably called MI6 and was re-routed to the Siena safehouse with instructions to deliver White there because not only was it the closest safehouse, but M was there too.

Not only that, but Talamone - where Mathis was given his villa - is located in Tuscany, as is Siena. In fact, they're less than a hundred kilometres apart.

[DaveBond21]

I assumed that it took Bond a matter of days to find Mr White. It can't be 2 years because the members of the organisation would change their phone numbers on a monthly basis.