So, Mr White...
#1
Posted 16 November 2008 - 01:44 PM
Seems that if they wanted to find out any more information about Mr White's organisation, it would be best to ask the man directly, no?
Just seems a bit strange to have that car chase at the beginning, with Bond risking life and limb to get White to the safehouse, only to find out that "we have people everywhere..."
#2
Posted 16 November 2008 - 01:50 PM
It's likely MI6 were more concerned with uprooting the traitors within their ranks before going after Quantum. It would really suck if they stumbled onto the organisation's plans only to find that someone else within their own ranks had tipped Quantum off and they walked into a trap.
White was set to appear in the original ending, which was cut from the film; Bond was going to encounter him.
#3
Posted 16 November 2008 - 01:52 PM
#4
Posted 16 November 2008 - 01:58 PM
#5
Posted 16 November 2008 - 02:00 PM
#6
Posted 16 November 2008 - 02:45 PM
M could ahrdly give chase herself.
That would've been quite amusing. Intercut with Bond and Mitchell.
Anyway, I thought they assumed White was dead, since he fell to the floor. It was only untill Bond came back, when he found out that he'd escaped. I espect M would've fled the scene and been flown to safety.
#7
Posted 16 November 2008 - 02:59 PM
#8
Posted 16 November 2008 - 03:03 PM
It is impossible to see what happens with M in this scene (and I've played it in slow-motion!). She just disappears without any explanation.M could ahrdly give chase herself.
That would've been quite amusing. Intercut with Bond and Mitchell.
Anyway, I thought they assumed White was dead, since he fell to the floor. It was only untill Bond came back, when he found out that he'd escaped. I espect M would've fled the scene and been flown to safety.
#9
Posted 16 November 2008 - 03:06 PM
Oh good, there was a different ending to the film. I hardly thought the one they used was particularly good. It seemed more like the end of a scene than the end of a movie.Um, didn't you see him at Tosca?
It's likely MI6 were more concerned with uprooting the traitors within their ranks before going after Quantum. It would really suck if they stumbled onto the organisation's plans only to find that someone else within their own ranks had tipped Quantum off and they walked into a trap.
White was set to appear in the original ending, which was cut from the film; Bond was going to encounter him.
#10
Posted 16 November 2008 - 03:13 PM
There is a shot of her running up the stairs out of the safehouse.It is impossible to see what happens with M in this scene (and I've played it in slow-motion!). She just disappears without any explanation.
#11
Posted 16 November 2008 - 03:13 PM
The trail went cold on White so they shifted gears to Greene. Mitchell took out the other guards at the safe house so it just left Bond who was too busy to keep an eye on White allowing him to escape. One other possibility is that there is a scene in the movie where they discuss White but it is just edited so quickly that we missed it.After Mr White made his escape from the Siena safehouse, are we to assume that M maybe sent another Double-Oh agent to track him down, or did they simply leave it at that? He made his escape and that was the end of it.
Seems that if they wanted to find out any more information about Mr White's organisation, it would be best to ask the man directly, no?
Just seems a bit strange to have that car chase at the beginning, with Bond risking life and limb to get White to the safehouse, only to find out that "we have people everywhere..."
#12
Posted 16 November 2008 - 03:31 PM
#13
Posted 16 November 2008 - 06:40 PM
And he didn't say anyhting during the production of Tosca, nor did he stand when Bond jumped into their conversation, so was Bond even aware of White's presence?
Mr.White does say something at the Tosca production, I can't remember the exact words but he turns to the lady beside him and says something to the effect of 'I guess some don't like the show' or something similar! I love Mr.White, he is almost bonds equivilant (evil of course) ... he is cool under pressure and does not get defeated like bond! I would love to see him in bond 23!
#14
Posted 16 November 2008 - 06:43 PM
Yes, but Bond didn't hear this, so he would still be unaware of White's presence there.Mr.White does say something at the Tosca production, I can't remember the exact words but he turns to the lady beside him and says something to the effect of 'I guess some don't like the show' or something similar!And he didn't say anyhting during the production of Tosca, nor did he stand when Bond jumped into their conversation, so was Bond even aware of White's presence?
#15
Posted 16 November 2008 - 06:51 PM
At the opera when all the Quantum folks were walking out, he turned to his lady friend and said "I suppose Tosca isn't for everyone."
#16
Posted 16 November 2008 - 07:02 PM
Shame that almost his entire screen time could be seen before in trailers, hope to see him return in B23 (if they're going that way) with a much bigger role.
#17
Posted 16 November 2008 - 07:05 PM
I do hope he gets his comeuppance from Bond one of these days (though I suppose being kneecapped wasn't exactly a walk in the park).Showing White at the opera was great. I liked the fact that when White heard Bond's voice, he didn't stand up like the others, so he was able to slip away yet again. Hopefully, White will continue as a baddie in the next film.
Good Lord, why was it cut? That was precisely what I was looking for!White was set to appear in the original ending, which was cut from the film; Bond was going to encounter him.
#18
Posted 16 November 2008 - 10:22 PM
It is impossible to see what happens with M in this scene (and I've played it in slow-motion!). She just disappears without any explanation.M could ahrdly give chase herself.
That would've been quite amusing. Intercut with Bond and Mitchell.
Anyway, I thought they assumed White was dead, since he fell to the floor. It was only untill Bond came back, when he found out that he'd escaped. I espect M would've fled the scene and been flown to safety.
Actually no she doesn't. When Bond and Mitchell are fighting. Bond looks up and you can clearly see M running up the stairs to safety.
#19
Posted 16 November 2008 - 10:25 PM
Can anyone explain me the ORIGINAL white ending please?
#20
Posted 17 November 2008 - 02:30 AM
It was cut for two reasons: firstly, because it was felt that the film ended on a better note the way it does now. Secondly, the cut ending set up the next film - rather like the epilogue to CASINO ROYALE - but Marc Forster didn't want to force EON to commit to a third film in a trilogy if they didn't want to.Good Lord, why was it cut? That was precisely what I was looking for!White was set to appear in the original ending, which was cut from the film; Bond was going to encounter him.
No-one knows for certain, and we probably won't until it comes out on DVD, but someone over at the other forums posted this:Can anyone explain me the ORIGINAL white ending please?
That may change for BOND 23, though.
#21
Posted 17 November 2008 - 03:55 AM
And a shot before that of Bond checking to make sure she was okay. Really, most shots in this film are blink-and-you'll-miss-it.There is a shot of her running up the stairs out of the safehouse.It is impossible to see what happens with M in this scene (and I've played it in slow-motion!). She just disappears without any explanation.