QoS deserves it's bad press - worst 007 movie in history
#1
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:12 PM
Craig does a good job and is ably supported by Dame Judi Dench. Olga is an attractive heroine with her own mission but Gemma Arterton (who is considerably IMO more attractive) is criminaaly underused. Arterton provided an intersting spark to a movie that all tool often had me checking my watch. The movie is beautiful to look at with unique angles and a certain kinetic energy.
Of particular note is the title track and the main titles. They complement each other only in how mediocre they are. The gunbarrel is also a mistake and the couple next to me were laughing at Craigs Monty Python-esque walk.
I really wanted to like this movie. I read the reviews and shrugged them off as just critics being critics, but they were for the most part correct.
#2
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:20 PM
#3
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:21 PM
#4
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:22 PM
#5
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:23 PM
#6
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:24 PM
worst than any Brosnan flick? all 4 of them?
Goldeneye wasn't bad.
#7
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:24 PM
#8
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:28 PM
#9
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:31 PM
#10
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:35 PM
Perhaps you might decide to give the film a second chance (and many have said a second viewing makes it a lot better..)
I hope you do enjoy it. I simply could not stomach a second helping of it.
I had high hopes for the movie and did not want to believe the bad press the movie was getting. In my opinion it is as bad as everyone was saying - unfortunately.
What was your biggest issue with it?
There's seriously too many to list. I cannot single one out. I'm off to the bar, perhaps alcohol will help blot out the memory of QoS
#11
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:37 PM
#12
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:39 PM
2. I don't think this movie sucks, perhaps if you give it a second chance?
#13
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:39 PM
I was planning on waiting before posting a review of the monstrosity that is Quantum of Solace but decided that I needed to warn everyone - do not waste your time or money on the turkey that EON just unloaded on the public. Don't reward MGW and Babs Broccoli for what truly is a painful experience.
Since I started following James Bond 007 in the movie theater in 1979 there has been only one instance (The World is not Enough) in which I have refused to watch the movie a second time in the cinema - until now.
In fact Quantum of Solace is such a horrible experience that it actually makes The World is not Enough shine in comparison - and pretty much evceryone on here knows how much I dislike the 1999 Pierce Brosnan effort.
But don't blame Daniel Craig. Craig is hampered here by a script that makes no sense and a director who obviously has no idea what makes a good action movie. Indeed to refer to this as Bourne-like is an insult to the Bourne series.
If EON plan on making more Bond movies like this - then I wish they wouldn't bother - just put Bond to bed and leave us with our good feelings towards the character, rather than sour our impressions with more like this POS.
I'm searching here to say something positive about the movie - and it's hard. Craig does a good job and is ably supported by Dame Judi Dench. Olga is an attractive heroine with her own mission but Gemma Arterton (who is considerably IMO more attractive) is criminaaly underused. Arterton provided an intersting spark to an otherwise dull and boring snore-fest.
Of particular note is the title track and the main titles. They complement each other only in how bad and mediocre they are. One man actually walked out in disgust before they were over (undoubtedly to demand his money back). The gunbarrel is also a mistake and the couple next to me were laughing at Craigs Monty Python-esque walk. Me, I was stunned into silence by just how bad the movie was I had just seen unfold before me.
I really wanted to like this movie. I read the reviews and shrugged them off as just critics being critics, but they were unfortunately right. This movie gets a big thumbs down. I want the two hours back I wasted on this Marc Forster garbage.
Well done for speaking how you really feel as I agree with every word you said.QOS is the only Bond movie I´ve ever walked out on and I saw it for nothing.It truly is Garbage
#14
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:41 PM
#15
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:46 PM
But the rest made more than up for it.
#16
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:49 PM
I think the nay sayers are all in the shock of the first 30 to 45 mins.
I agree in so far as the first half hour was severely underwhelming in my eyes.
But the rest made more than up for it.
#17
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:51 PM
#18
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:51 PM
Just what I was thinking.DLibrasnow thinks Never Say Never Again is the best Bond film ever so I'm going to have to take this review with a grain of salt.
Thanks to this review, I can be confident of only one thing: That QoS is nowhere near the film that NSNA is.
#19
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:55 PM
It's certainly not that bad.
It is definitely not that bad, speaking as someone who saw and liked (but didn't quite love) QoS. I find Dlibrasnow's review rather ridiculous, actually. I'd take QoS over MR, DAF, DAD, AVTAK, TMWTGG, LALD, OP, YOLT anyday. I just love that some critics immediately hate QoS just because it's not as good as CR.
#20
Posted 14 November 2008 - 06:56 PM
I was planning on waiting before posting a review of the monstrosity that is Quantum of Solace but decided that I needed to warn everyone - do not waste your time or money on the turkey that EON just unloaded on the public. Don't reward MGW and Babs Broccoli for what truly is a painful experience.
Since I started following James Bond 007 in the movie theater in 1979 there has been only one instance (The World is not Enough) in which I have refused to watch the movie a second time in the cinema - until now.
In fact Quantum of Solace is such a horrible experience that it actually makes The World is not Enough shine in comparison - and pretty much evceryone on here knows how much I dislike the 1999 Pierce Brosnan effort.
But don't blame Daniel Craig. Craig is hampered here by a script that makes no sense and a director who obviously has no idea what makes a good action movie. Indeed to refer to this as Bourne-like is an insult to the Bourne series.
If EON plan on making more Bond movies like this - then I wish they wouldn't bother - just put Bond to bed and leave us with our good feelings towards the character, rather than sour our impressions with more like this POS.
I'm searching here to say something positive about the movie - and it's hard. Craig does a good job and is ably supported by Dame Judi Dench. Olga is an attractive heroine with her own mission but Gemma Arterton (who is considerably IMO more attractive) is criminaaly underused. Arterton provided an intersting spark to an otherwise dull and boring snore-fest.
Of particular note is the title track and the main titles. They complement each other only in how bad and mediocre they are. One man actually walked out in disgust before they were over (undoubtedly to demand his money back). The gunbarrel is also a mistake and the couple next to me were laughing at Craigs Monty Python-esque walk. Me, I was stunned into silence by just how bad the movie was I had just seen unfold before me.
I really wanted to like this movie. I read the reviews and shrugged them off as just critics being critics, but they were unfortunately right. This movie gets a big thumbs down. I want the two hours back I wasted on this Marc Forster garbage.
Pretty much sums up how I feel about Never Say Never Again. Horses for course, I guess.
Personally, I feel QoS is one of the absolute gems of the series. On a par with my two favourites, OHMSS and Casino Royale. All subjective.
#21
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:03 PM
I don't mind the song (there are lots of better Bond songs), and my opinion on the title sequence (except for the typography which was rather well done) is not a very good one.Of particular note is the title track and the main titles. They complement each other only in how bad and mediocre they are. One man actually walked out in disgust before they were over (undoubtedly to demand his money back).
But you use a man who walks out of a movie after he's actually seen some 3 minutes of it to hammer your point home? Sorry, but I would have expect something more inventive from a pro.
Not even mostly 'everyone'.In my opinion it is as bad as everyone was saying - unfortunately.
#22
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:10 PM
I was looking forward more to seeing Kingdom of the Crystal Skull again more as at least that had some charm: I saw QoS on opening night and still can't get up the interest to see it again. Haven't even bought the soundtrack yet, and that's a first.
#23
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:30 PM
I was looking forward more to seeing Kingdom of the Crystal Skull again more as at least that had some charm: I saw QoS on opening night and still can't get up the interest to see it again. Haven't even bought the soundtrack yet, and that's a first.
I actually watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull last night. Guess what? I frickin' loved it! Hated it when I saw it at the cinema. How times change
#24
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:32 PM
#25
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:33 PM
I think the nay sayers are all in the shock of the first 30 to 45 mins.
Interesting theory but I think in the years to come (once the new-ness of Quantum of Solace has worn off) that more and more CBNers will come to realize just how terrible Quantum of Solace is.
#26
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:35 PM
At least you have NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN to remind you what a real Bond movie is all about.
#27
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:36 PM
I think you need to watch this movie again and give it another chance, this film actually brings closure to Bond's feelings and also for the first time since Scaramanga the villain is menacing without having to do much. I love the movie. It can do without certain actions scenes but it works. Also I think this is the right formula they were trying to get with TWINE before things went all wrong!!!!!
Also Brosnan is a very effective Bond and both Campbell and Spottiswood knew how to keep him in place. Apted was clueless about directing action films and Tamohori tried to be too slick but still manage to pull a decent 45 minutes in DAD.
Bond films change from time to time and to truly appreciate them we have to allow certain changes in the formula and direction as it would be become boring ! I know people who hated OHMSS.LTK.YOLT liking the film now than when it was released.
#28
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:40 PM
I too am stunned into silence if you or indeed anyone else think the gunbarrel had anything remotely resembling Monty Python in it. But then I should never argue about the Pythons work with an American (!). I say that with love. I think you need a bit more of it young sir.The gunbarrel is also a mistake and the couple next to me were laughing at Craigs Monty Python-esque walk. Me, I was stunned into silence by just how bad the movie was I had just seen unfold before me.
#29
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:42 PM
I was planning on waiting before posting a review of the monstrosity that is Quantum of Solace but decided that I needed to warn everyone - do not waste your time or money on the turkey that EON just unloaded on the public. Don't reward MGW and Babs Broccoli for what truly is a painful experience.
Since I started following James Bond 007 in the movie theater in 1979 there has been only one instance (The World is not Enough) in which I have refused to watch the movie a second time in the cinema - until now.
In fact Quantum of Solace is such a horrible experience that it actually makes The World is not Enough shine in comparison - and pretty much evceryone on here knows how much I dislike the 1999 Pierce Brosnan effort.
But don't blame Daniel Craig. Craig is hampered here by a script that makes no sense and a director who obviously has no idea what makes a good action movie. Indeed to refer to this as Bourne-like is an insult to the Bourne series.
If EON plan on making more Bond movies like this - then I wish they wouldn't bother - just put Bond to bed and leave us with our good feelings towards the character, rather than sour our impressions with more like this POS.
I'm searching here to say something positive about the movie - and it's hard. Craig does a good job and is ably supported by Dame Judi Dench. Olga is an attractive heroine with her own mission but Gemma Arterton (who is considerably IMO more attractive) is criminaaly underused. Arterton provided an intersting spark to an otherwise dull and boring snore-fest.
Of particular note is the title track and the main titles. They complement each other only in how bad and mediocre they are. One man actually walked out in disgust before they were over (undoubtedly to demand his money back). The gunbarrel is also a mistake and the couple next to me were laughing at Craigs Monty Python-esque walk. Me, I was stunned into silence by just how bad the movie was I had just seen unfold before me.
I really wanted to like this movie. I read the reviews and shrugged them off as just critics being critics, but they were unfortunately right. This movie gets a big thumbs down. I want the two hours back I wasted on this Marc Forster garbage.
QOS is proof that Bond has to stay British to retain his charm. I mean, most of the key personnel on the film are Americans (Forster's nationality doesn't count, he studied cinema in the States): director, DP, editors, 2nd unit director and the film feels like a standard US action film only it stars Bond. All action and no fun. Sony is getting too intrusive (it was them, after all, who "suggested" Forster after having collaborated on Stranger Than Fiction. Now, why would anyone in their right minds find him suitable to do Bond because of that film? Modern Hollywood films suck in great part because they no longer have genre directors. Everybody thinks themselves artists and want to try their hands at new things and studio execs believe directors can shoot whatever's put in front of them regardless of talent or lack thereof. I said this when Forster was first announced: I didn't like the choice.
I also felt Gemma underused (for one thing, she's a better actress than Olga). It's the 21st century and by now Bond should be sexier even with a PG13 rating. It also feels a very American desicion to cut sex and exposition to a minimum and emphasize action.
I don't, however, think it the worst Bond ever (that honour I leave for LALD, which feels even less of a Bond film than this one) but I think this is as far as they can go before they ruin it. Eon have two choices: to regroup and come up with a really good film next time and deliver on the CR promise or else lose their core fan base for quick Bourne converts who will turn their backs on Bond just as fast.
#30
Posted 14 November 2008 - 07:44 PM